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posted on Dec, 1 2005 @ 08:54 PM
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I had never heard of the chamber of knowledge til today. I was watching a documentary about the KGB and they made reference to it. It is supposed to be in the great pyramid, and I just wanted more info on it. Can anyone help?



posted on Dec, 1 2005 @ 09:36 PM
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Maybe you could be more speciifc as to what program you watched and maybe do a little research on the subject.
Right now, I'm really not sure what you are asking.
Also, I see no connection to Evolution or Creationsim, so I'm moving this to Website-Relataed Discussions, pending further information by you.



posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by 1jaguar
I had never heard of the chamber of knowledge til today. I was watching a documentary about the KGB and they made reference to it. It is supposed to be in the great pyramid, and I just wanted more info on it. Can anyone help?


sounds interesting but we need more to be of any real help... on a side note the ladies consider my bedroom a chamber of knowledge! Oh snap... well not really but what ever


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posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 03:06 PM
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Thanks for replying but I still have not been able to find any other reference to it so I will probably shelve this one for a while. The show was on sci-fi and had something to do with the kgb de-classifying some of their ufo/alien/whatever files. My mind was not totally on the program but I think they mentioned that the expedition took place in March 1969. Thanks for listening.




posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 04:01 PM
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Ok,
Here is what i have been able to uncover so far.
You have the name of the Scifi show correctit is the Secret KGB UFO files.
Now here comes the problem that I ran into.
The only references that I can find dealing with 1969 or in that era, are either one the "crash" or supposed investigations that the KGB was doing using remote viewing for the Chamber of Knowledge.

Now as for discovering the Chamber of Knowledge, and the discovery of an alien body, All I can find are references to a "Project Isis" that the KGB conducted in the 1930's. According to the searches that I have done, the KGB worked with the egyptians and uncovered a tomb that had some sort of inscription that basically said " Alien God" In the tomb, they found a small body of non-human origion. There is supposed to be inscriptions all over the interior walls of the tomb. There is also a reference to a "button" but nothing on the "button's " function.
There is also references to wierd radiation in the tomb as well as researchers floating around. From what I have been able to find, everyone present there figured that the place was too dangerous and then either destroyed the entrance or covered it up so that it would not be found again.
After that, there is no mention of an alien body (other than an autopsy of the 1969 alien) nor of the tomb.
Most of the links that I have been able to find on this subject either point back here to ATS, to another discussion board and to our beloved Pravda. So I cannot vouchsafe any of the info (sorry) since I take information form all these sources with a grain of salt until I can find other material to substantiate clams made on any of the sites. (Sorry ATS)



posted on Dec, 2 2005 @ 06:51 PM
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Thank-you I couldn't remember the name project isis. I was busy while it was on and really was not paying attention. Thanks again



posted on Dec, 3 2005 @ 06:00 AM
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I think what he might be refering to is the "supposed" chamber underneith one of the paws of the sphinx. It is said to contain ancient knowledge from-take your choice-aliens/gods/previous advanced civilations/atlantis...

Some research was done on this. Here is some info from that research.

The Great Sphinx

The Great Sphinx should not be confused with other sphinxes found in Egypt. The Great Sphinx is the large one near the Giza pyramids.

The face of the Sphinx seems to represent pharaoh Khafre, ruler of Egypt from 2520-2494 BC. Egyptologists have compared the only statue of Khafre we have today with the face of the Sphinx and they realised there were some similarities.

"Mark Lehner, professor of oriental languages at the University of Chicago, published an article in National Geographic (in 91) which proved that the face of the Sphinx was indeed the face of Khafre. Therefor he used computers to reconstruct the face of the Sphinx. The problem is that he first used Khafre's face as a model, so it's obvious that he came to the conclusion that the face of the Sphinx and the Khafre's face were the same. If he had used Elvis Presley's face as a model, he would have concluded that the Sphinx was a representation of the dead singer." (cited from the above site).

So far no one has determined the real date of when it was built, Hancock and Beauval say it was built long before the 4th Dynasty when Khafre ruled.

"When you have a look at the head of the Sphinx, it's obvious that the head is too small in comparison with the rest of the body. The original head was much bigger and the actual "Egyptian" face has been carved later on. In 1993, Frank Domingo began to analyse the face of the Sphinx. Frank Domingo is a specialist in facial analysis for the police of New York. His conclusions were that the Sphinx and Khafre were two different persons. His conclusions were totally opposed to Lehner's theory. Who was right? The Sphinx is really a riddle because it can't be dated by C14 techniques and there are no inscriptions which proves it has been built during the 4th dynasty. We can say the Sphinx is completely anonymous!

Lehner says that there is one syllable ('Khaf') carved between the front legs of the Sphinx and this proves that it has been built under the reign of Khafre. But 'Khaf' doesn't mean anything because the names of the pharaohs were always written in closed cartouches. And even if that syllable had been carved by Khafre, it doesn't mean he built the Sphinx. It could simply mean that Khafre repaired the Sphinx and gave his face to it. Another carved rock from that period has been found and it shows that Cheops had already seen the Sphinx. Cheops was born before Khafre which means that Khafre couldn't have built the Sphinx" (cited from above site).

The Hidden Chamber

In the 70s radar has shown that there were "holes" under the Sphinx. One of these is large enough to be a room. The Egyptian government has been protective of the site and so far has not allowed any diggings to see if these holes are man made or are natural.

A man named Edgar Caryce popularized the idea of a hidden chamber. He is qouted as too saying.

"A record of Atlantis from the beginning of those periods when the Spirit took form, or began the encasements in that land; and the developments of the peoples throughout their sojourn; together with the record of the first destruction, and the changes that took place in the land; with the record of the sojournings of the peoples and their varied activities in other lands, and a record of the meetings of all the nations or lands, for the activities in the destruction of Atlantis; and the building of the pyramid of initiation, together with whom, what, and where the opening of the records would come, that are as copies from the sunken Atlantis. For with the change, it [Atlantis] must rise again. In position, this lies -- as the sun rises from the waters -- as the line of the shadows (or light) falls between the paws of the Sphinx; that was set later as the sentinel or guard and which may not be entered from the connecting chambers from the Sphinx's right paw until the time has been fulfilled when the changes must be active in this sphere of man's experience. Then [it lies] between the Sphinx and the river. [378-16; Oct 29, 1933]"

I have discovered a link about the passages that lead intothe Sphinx www.catchpenny.org...

A Japaneese team made these discoveries about the Sphinx.

A. South of the Sphinx. The Japanese indicated the existence of a hollow 2.5 m. to 3 m. underground. And, they found indications of a groove on the Sphinx body that extends beneath the Sphinx.
B. North of the Sphinx. The Japanese found another groove similar to the southern one which may indicate that maybe there is a tunnel underneath the Sphinx connecting the south and north grooves.
C. In front of the two paws of the Sphinx. The Japanese found another hollow space about 1 m. to 2 m. below surface. Again, they believe that it might extend underneath the Sphinx.

Over the next few days I will analyize the differnt theories of the undergroudn chmaber and compile them.


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posted on 7/19/2004 at 09:44
Ok, here is the next installment of �Alternative Ideas� for the Sphinx and the Pyramids.

There is thought to be a connection between the Cydonia region on planet Mars and Gaza with the pyramids of Egypt. The well known D&M (pyramid?) on Mars, like the Great Pyramid of Egypt, is aligned virtually north south towards the spin axis of the planet. Former NASA consultant Richard Hoagland argues that the Face on Mars is 'not merely the image of a terrestrial hominid...lying where it has no business being. One half (the right) is also the perfect image of a cat; specifically a lion - the king of beasts- the Sphinx is a lion-cat.

The Egyptian city of Cairo which is built near the ancient pyramids of Gaza gets its name from an old Egyptian word which means �city of mars�

www.fortunecity.com...

If you look at picture # 13 on this next link, you will see an image from a cliff on mars that look like an Egyptian Queen.

imageevent.com...

Let�s look at another idea that is not accepted by the mainstream, the room(s) under the Sphinx, Sphinx�s paw or between the sphinx and the great pyramid � depending on who you read. Edgar Cayce, a well known telepathic/clairvoyant,
Talked of a �hall of records� that would be discovered and would change mankind and his history and science forever. He indicated the knowledge came from Atlantis and would not be found until �the time is right�-but we were not given exact indication of when that is-though he did say it would be discovered between 1998 and 2001.I found this site, I don�t think it is the hall of records, but it is under the sphinx and interesting non the less.

phoenix.akasha.de...

The point I was trying to get at is there is still so much more to Gaza than meets the eye, until it is discovered or discovered and released to the general public.

Yoshimura and a team of Japanese scientists conducted tests using electro-magnetic waves and radar technology
Professor Sakuji Yoshimura along with a team of Japanese scientists conducted experiments in the Queen's Chamber using electro-magnetic waves and radar equipment. This high-tech approach yielded results similar to the French (1986, below). With the confirmation of a 'cavity'�some believe a hidden chamber possibly containing the treasures of Cheops�close to the French team's drillings, they found another large cavity behind the N-W wall of the inner Queen's Chamber and a 'tunnel'�possibly passageway�outside and to the south of the Great Pyramid. Again, shortly after these intriguing discoveries, the Egyptian authorities stepped in and terminated Yoshimura's work. All acute paranoia aside, it begs one to think 'they' ARE trying to hide something, or do they want to find it first.

www.riddleofthesphinx.com...

Why would that be a big deal? What if what was found clearly showed that the Sphinx and the Pyramids were built by another civilization-predating Egypt? Why is that a big deal? Think of the Mayan ruins in Mexico. Mexico isn�t thought of as once being mighty pyramid builders; they are just the folks who moved in after the fact. I think the same is true of Egypt and the pyramids, but Egypt is clearly not going to let that kind of info out. It may also hold information that those who are in charge don�t think the general public is ready. Then there is the worse reason in the world, the information might go against their religion-Egypt is a Muslim country. Would Muslims destroy important historical fact/items in the name of their god-they already have. Much of the alabaster from the great pyramids was used to build alabaster mosques in Egypt.











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posted on 7/19/2004 at 11:25
Hmmm.. numbers...

Alright, here is some numbers to think about...

HOW MANY BLOCKS DID IT ACTUALLY TAKE TO BUILD THE GREAT PYRAMID?
Most books and encyclopedia state that there are 2.3 million blocks of stone in the Great Pyramid of Khufu (Cheops), with no mention of method used to figure this.

Socrates determined the size and weight of the blocks (a standard block),
and ran a Pascal Computer Program (a mathematical model of all the blocks of stone needed; written by the author to optimize the sizes and weights of the stones) to come up with the real number of blocks used. Since the volume of passageways and internal chambers are very small compared to the high volume of the pyramid, they are ignored at this time, just as though the pyramid was built of solid stone blocks with mortared joints.

THE SIZE OF THE BLOCKS
The size of the blocks are based on a chance discovery in 1837 by Howard Vyse. He found two of the original side casing blocks at the base of the pyramid, 5 ft x 8 ft x 12 ft, with an angle of 51 degrees, 51 minutes cut on one of the 12 ft. sides. Each of these stones weighed (5 x 8 x 12)/2000 = 39.9 tons before the face angle was cut. These originally were used for the side casing stones of Step No. 1, in the Pascal computer program. The sizes of all the other blocks were scaled from these two original blocks of the remaining Steps 2 to 201.

THE GREAT PYRAMID'S DIMENSIONS AND THEIR LAYOUT
One acre = 43,560 sq. ft, or 208.71 feet on a side.
For the pyramid's base, length = width = (square root of 13.097144 acres) x 208.71 feet = 755.321 feet. Or 755.321 x 12 = 9063.85 inches.

Height = (755.321 x tangent 51deg 51 min)/2 = 480.783 feet. Or 480.783 x 12 = 5769.403 inches.

For the cap stone base: length = width = (32.18 x 2)/tangent 51deg 51 min = 50.55 inches.

The average size of a pyramid stone = (5 x 8 x 12)
The average side measurement, at the base = 759.3 ft.
The height used was 201 steps high, or 480 feet. (This is minus the height
of the Capstone, which was one piece in itself.

The number reached by the Pascal computer program was 603,728 blocks used.
The solid core takes up the space of 13,016 stones. So, the actual number of stones used to build the Great Pyramid is 603,728 - 13,016 = 590,712.
This figure is (2,300,000 - 590,712) = 1,709,288 blocks less than the often
published 2.3 million value.

NUMBER OF VARIOUS BLOCKS OF STONE USED TO BUILD THE GREAT PYRAMID
Number of platform blocks used (2.5 ft x 10 ft square), equals (759.3 x 759.3(pyramid base)) - (412.7 x 412.7(core base))/(10 x 10(platform block base)) = 4,062.

Number of CORNER Casing stones where the pyramid faces meet equals 201 steps x 4 sides = 804.

Number of side casing stones equals ((244 x 127) + 8,953) = 39,941.

Due to Bedrock Core, in the center of Step 1 through 10, the total number of blocks needed is reduced by 13,016.

THE NUMBER OF ALL BLOCKS BEHIND THE CASING STONES EQUALS
(590,712 - 804 - 39,941) = 549,967.

PLACING THE BLOCKS
The average number of blocks that have to be placed each day equals (590,712 blocks)/(20years x 364.25 days) = 81 blocks per day.

If 10 crews of 300 men work on each of the four sides of the pyramid, then
the totals of 40 crews and 12,000 men will be needed. Each of the crews will be responsible to place 81/40 = 2 blocks per day.

The workload passes through three phases of decreasing difficulty, which are determined by the weights of the heaviest blocks:
Steps 1 through 21 (60.59 to 27.24 tons)
Steps 22 through 136 (17.66 to 6.44 tons)
Steps 127 through 201 (3.05 to 2.63 tons)

As the weight of the blocks decrease, Step to Step, the sizes of the drag crews will decrease. However, when this happens, the number of blocks needed to be dragged each day can be reduced because one large block can be dragged and cut into several smaller blocks that are needed.

As the pyramid rises there is less space for the crews to work in and fewer block to be placed. In other words, the number of workers that will be needed depends on three factors of: weight of blocks, number of blocks to be placed, and the working space available.

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posted on 7/19/2004 at 12:58
Theories on how the Great Pyramids were built.

Alright, I am going to list off a few different theories with links on how the Great Pyramids were built.

Aliens
Levitation
Lever Method
Kites

I will update this when I come across more links and theories.


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posted on 7/20/2004 at 08:31
Ii have come across more info on The Sphinx and the rumored Hall of Records.

Edgar Cayce believed that the opening to the Halls of Records, which hold the history of the Earth, will be found in the right shoulder of the Sphinx.

"If you bisect the golden mean rectangle that fits around the spiral at the Gizah plateau, it passes exactly through the headdress of the Sphinx. Also, extended from the southern face of the middle pyramid and the line that bisects the golden mean rectangle, forms a cross that marks a very specific spot on the right shoulder of the Sphinx." (www.crystalinks.com...)

Also on the site is this which is too intresting to paraphrase.

"One of the problems with the Sphinx is that the right shoulder - the area marked by the cross - keeps cracking. The Egyptians have been trying to patch it to keep it together. The head is also falling off. Thoth told me that the head will fall off and that, in the neck, there will be found a large golden sphere, which is a time capsule. The Egyptians are doing everything they can to keep the head and right shoulder from falling off. Thoth also told him that everything was set up at a higher level so that the Halls of Records would be discovered before the end of 1999.

Thoth said 148 sets of three people would try to enter the Halls of Records, until one of these sets, coming from the West, would open the doorway by making a sound with their voice. Inside there would be a spiral staircase going into an underground room. The Japanese have the technical ability to see this room clearly enough with instruments to detect a clay pot in the corner.

There are three channels that go out from this room. If you know how to read it, the clay pot will tell you where to go and what to do. Thoth said that the three people from the West would enter and go down the right channel. If you go down the wrong channel, or if you are not the right group of people, you will die- a real "Indiana Jones"- type scene. If you are one of the chosen three people you can walk right in without any problem.

These three people eventually will come down a long stone hallway lit on its own with no lights; that is, the air itself would be luminous. High up on the left side of the wall would be etched forty-eight sacred geometry drawings. These are the illustrations of the chromosomes of Christ-consciousness-- The first one being the 'flower of life'.

At the end of the hallway there is a slight righthand turn into a large room. Sitting on the raised shelves of this room is physical evidence of the existence of civilization on this planet for the last five and a half million years.

At the front of the room is a stone. At the top of the stone these three people would find something like a photograph, an image of themselves. Beneath the images in the photograph they would find their names- not necessarily the names they were given at birth, but their true names. Underneath the names would be a date, which would be that actual day. Thoth said that each of these three people will be allowed to remove one of these objects and take it out."

The idea of the Hall of Records is very fascinating indeed. But the question remains, who put it there if it does exist.

I have discoverd this piece of info to answer that. Edgar Cayce believed that the records were from Atlantis, brought to Egypt by the survivors. These records contain the history of man. Cayce also said that another Hall of Records was taken to the Yucatan. According to Dr. Greg Little, there are three of the Halls, one of which is under the Sphinx.

"The Cayce story of the establishment of these three record halls begins at the time when Atlantis had already lost a battle for world conquest�essentially the same story given by Plato circa 350 B.C., wherein he related that Atlantis' destruction was a result of trying to conquor the world. The Atlanteans had become dominated by a war-like group of political leaders who sought to enslave others, including their own populace. However, within the Atlantean political structure were a group of priests who remained devoted to spirituality. Interestingly, the Atlantean priesthood became aware that a cataclysmic event was about to occur. This event, they were told, was going to wipe Atlantis from the face of the Earth. In the March and April issues of the ARE's monthly membership newsletter, Ancient Mysteries, we discussed the source of this information. Incredibly, according to the Cayce readings, this knowledge was transmitted to a key Atlantean priest through extraterrestrial sources! In fact, the Cayce readings do contain several separate references to ancient visits by extraterrestrial beings."- Dr. Little

More from Dr. Little.

"After the Atlantean priests verified that the prediction of the cataclysm was true, they worked out a plan to preserve key historical records and information about Atlantean technology. This is what is contained in the Hall of Records, along with a variety of implements from the Atlantean culture. Perhaps the best explanation of how they verified that the cataclysm was certain has been worked out by England's Andrew Collins in his book, Gateway to Atlantis. Specifically, Collins followed-up on earlier work by the German scientist Otto Muck, who discovered that a fragmenting comet struck the Atlantic Ocean and the whole of Eastern America. This even, called the "Carolina Bays Event" by geologists was initially thought to have happened in about 9000 B.C. However, recent research by physicists has shown that the event took place sometime just after 10,500 B.C. (see our book and 68-minute DVD documentary The ARE's Search for Atlantis for documentation and an explanation). Thus, if a comet was the source of the cataclysmic event that devestated Atlantis, it is probable that the impending disaster could have been confirmed by Atlantean astronomers.

The timeframe of the establishment of the three Hall of Records was circa 10,500 B.C. This date coincides with Dr. Robert Schoch's analysis of weathering of the Sphinx as well as computations made by the UK's Graham Hancock, Adrian Gilbert, and Robert Bauval.

According to Cayce, prior to the destruction of Atlantis, Atlantean priests made three identical sets of records and artifacts that they wanted to be preserved. These can be viewed as similar to modern time-capsules. Three separate groups were then charged with traveling to widely separated places where they were to construct chambers to house the records. The chambers were supposed to be made in such a manner that they could withstand the tests of time as well as natural disasters. In addition, the chambers were supposed to be hidden in such a way that individuals could not accidentally stumble upon them. That is, they were constructed so that access could be gained only by a deliberate effort to find them�when the time and technology was right."

"The first record hall was in Egypt at Giza. According to Cayce, access to the chamber lies in the bedrock under the right paw of the Sphinx. ARE researchers verified the presence of "cavities" deep under this area utilizing ground-penetrating radar, but their efforts to access the opening were stimied by Egyptian authorities for a host of reasons. However, the presence of either a cave or a tunnel in that location has since been verified. About two months ago Zahi Hiwass, the individual in charge of all Egyptian archaeological areas, announced that the UK's Birmingham University was contracted to utilize an advanced form of ground-penetrating radar in that area with the intention of finding all subsurface tunnels and chambers."- Dr.Little

I believe we can now agree that there is in fact a chamber under the Sphinx. According to more alternative theories, it is this Hall of Records. Others just belive it is just natural.

Later today I am going to study the theories of what is under the pyramids, and report back tommorrow.


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posted on 7/20/2004 at 11:51
Alright, I am posting this on behalf of neomoniker because he is having trouble posting:

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"Ramses II's father, carved the history of Ancient Egypt on the wall of a corridor. He shows who ruled Egypt from the first pharaoh to the last one, himself. That's what the left wall shows. What about the right wall? It describes who ruled Egypt before the first pharaoh when Egypt was still ruled by the Gods. Who were those Gods?"-(cited from above website). Some speculate the these "Gods" were aliens who lived amongst the Egyptians.


I think this attribution to "God" by Ramses II father helps to substantiate further the hypothesis that the Great Pyramids were constructed long before any classical Egyptian civilization emerged on the seen. The ancient Egyptians having no written or oral history of who or what built the pyramid monuments found a quick & easy solution to the puzzle by giving a spiritual deity, "God," all of the credit for their creation.


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posted on 7/21/2004 at 09:52
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I've been reading through to posts in your project and some of them are very interesting.

Even though I'm not officially a member, I'd like to add a couple of points regarding the age of the Sphinx.

A lot of people latch onto the 10,500 BCE date given by Graham Hancock as the "actual" date of it's construction. Supposedly this is based on the water erosion found on the megalith. Unfortunately for Hancock, however, there was no 11th century BCE wet period. Egypt at that time is in the middle of an ice age and was very, very cold and very, very dry.

This isn't to say that the traditional Egyptologist date is correct; it can't be because of the water erosion. Dr. Robert Schoch, the geologist who determined that there was water erosion present, concluded that the erosion pattern was "perfectly consistent" with the rainfall during the period between 7,000 and 5,000 BC

My source for this information is the book "The Stargate Conspiracy" by Lynn Pickett and Clive Prince. It explores some of the claims made by traditional Egyptologist and their New Egyptologist counterparts. Basically Picknett and Prince point out that both sides are doing a heckuva lot of wishful thinking.


This is a U2U I revieved from BIGGIE.

If anyone else out there has any information, feel free to U2U me and I will post it for you.


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posted on 7/25/2004 at 06:28
In the next few posts, I will explain each of the different theories in detail, hopefully this will help prove them right or wrong.


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posted on 8/1/2004 at 14:34
Hey guys, lets not forget about the most reasonable answer to building......

" The most common theory for moving large blocks is to slide logs under the large stones to make mobility easier. The block would�ve had large ropes with people pushing the block forward, while several men would remove the last log uncovered by the stone. The end log that was removed would�ve been transported to the front where it would complete the cycle under the stone, until it went to the back again."

But the question remains, how would they get it into position?

"This idea has also left scientists baffled. The most common theory for placement of each stone is said to have a ramp that went around the pyramid�s sides. Some conclude the ramp only touched once side of the pyramid. This might have been true, but the ramp might have had more material then the pyramid and would have made placement of each block difficult."

But!!

" Herodotus was a Greek historian who traveled to Egypt around 450 B.C. and wrote that the Egyptians had some sort of gear that was used in lifting these large blocks. Although this might sound extraordinary, scientists have found no proof of any such lifting devices."

Could Herodotus be telling the truth? Could the mystery of the pyramids be buried under the sand of Egypt? We may never know....

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posted on 8/2/2004 at 05:27
How many logs would this have taken... Do you know how many trees would be needed?

These blocks wieghted tons, and the logs would have been worn down after each block, which means they would need to be replaced.

That could lead to alot of trees being cut down? Do they have this amount of trees in Giza?


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posted on 3/6/2005 at 20:54 Post Number: 1222586 (post id: 1244479)
The Riddle of the Sphinx

"What is that which has one voice and yet becomes four-footed and two-footed and three-footed?"
[Apollodorus 3.5.7]

"What goes on four legs at dawn, two at noon, and three at dusk?"
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The winged [Greek] sphinx of Boeotian Thebes, the most famous in legend, was said to have terrorized the people by demanding the answer to a riddle taught her by the Muses and devouring a man each time the riddle was answered incorrectly. Eventually Oedipus gave the proper answer: man, who crawls on all fours in infancy, walks on two feet when grown, and leans on a staff in old age; the sphinx thereupon killed herself. From this tale apparently grew the legend that the sphinx was omniscient, and even today the wisdom of the sphinx is proverbial. [From: Britannica Online]
Ever since its relatively recent rediscovery, theories and controversies, much in imitation of the desert sands, have swirled around the Sphinx. Perhaps this situation is not new, and the same occurred after previous rediscoveries, which were also followed by feverish attempts at repair and preservation, after which the desert once again claimed all but its enigmatic Sphinx head.

The real riddle of the Sphinx at Giza relates to its very identity. Everything that you may have learned in school or through mainstream educational programs is most likely erroneous. The people who have contributed to the status quo of the now stale and challenged "accepted theory" appear to be reluctant to accept new research. In some cases, those charged with protecting this precious leonine treasure actually deny access to researchers with whom they have had disagreements over theory.

Finding fresh, reliable news on just what is going on is very difficult. When one does come across new information, s/he must wade through rumor, supposition, and, even more unfortunately, vitriolic back-biting.

The Great Sphinx casts spells of charming. S/he first enchanted me when I was about 7 and captured me quite sublimely a few years ago while I was digging for information on the original Oracle at Delphi. Whenever a standstill came about in my Delphi research, I'd investigate the Sphinx. At the time, the most interesting item I'd found concerning the Sphinx was what Edgar Cayce had uttered while in trance: that there were hidden areas below the Sphinx and that a Hall of Records would be discovered near the end of this century. All of the other resources were dry, uninteresting, and relegated this great, ancient structure to a minor existence -- constructed only as a memorial to one egomaniacal pharaoh or another. To me, this theory lacked common sense.

Educational television programs seemed bent on taking an exciting topic and making it as boring as possible. Spokespersons were typically old, slow-speaking, uninspiring gents who gave the impression of never having left their museums.

Along came a few "new" researchers who had also fallen under the Sphinx's spell. We have John Anthony West to thank for his having contacted Robert Schoch, a respected geologist, stratigrapher, and paleontologist. Professor Schoch has presented evidence that the Sphinx has been eroded by precipitation -- long periods of rains.

Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval took this information and combined it with their own research and that of many others. The work that they've done, together and individually, is much too detailed to cover on a few pages of a web site. Their coauthored book, The Message of the Sphinx should be available in libraries by now.

Almost a century ago, P.D. Ouspensky wrote about his visit to the Sphinx. You may find that his down-to-earth yet mystical description explains a portion of the Sphinx's magnetic attraction.

I hope you'll enjoy the reading selections and links provided below. Keep in mind that this is not the main page of the site. To see a table of contents, go to the main page of Morgana's Observatory. This section will be continually updated as I come across new information. In the meantime, be sure to visit the >Forum to read what others have to say and to post your own opinions and questions.
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The Sphinx lies on the Gizeh plateau, where the great pyramids stand, and where there are many other monuments, already discovered and still to be discovered, and a number of tombs of different epochs. The Sphinx lies in a hollow, above the level of which only its head, neck and part of its back project.

By whom, when, and why the Sphinx was erected -- of this nothing is known. Present-day archaeology takes the Sphinx to be prehistoric. [Note: Ouspensky was writing between 1908-1914.]

This means that even for the most ancient of the ancient Egyptians, those of the first dynasties six to seven thousand years before the birth of Christ, the Sphinx was the same riddle as it is for us today.

From the stone tablet, inscribed with drawings and hieroglyphs, found between the paws of the Sphinx, it was once surmised that the figure represented the image of the Egyptian god Harmakuti, "The Sun on the Horizon." But it has long been agreed that this is an altogether unsatisfactory interpretation and that the inscription probably refers to the occasion of some partial restoration made comparatively recently.

As a matter of fact, the Sphinx is older than historical Egypt, older than her gods, older than the pyramids, which, in their turn, are much older than is thought.

The Sphinx is indisputably one of the most remarkable, if not the most remarkable, of the world’s works of art. I know nothing that it would be possible to put side by side with it. It belongs indeed to quite another art than the art we know. Beings such as ourselves could not create a Sphinx. Nor can our culture create anything like it. The Sphinx appears unmistakably to be a relic of another, a very ancient culture, which was possessed of knowledge far greater than ours.

There is a tradition or theory that the Sphinx is a great, complex hieroglyph, or a book in stone, which contains the whole totality of ancient knowledge, and reveals itself to the person who can read this strange cipher which is embodied in the forms, correlations and measurements of the different parts of the Sphinx. This is the famous riddle of the Sphinx, which from the most ancient times so many wise souls have attempted to solve.
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here is a link to the whole research project-the pyrimads ands such:
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posted on Feb, 26 2006 @ 06:36 AM
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The hidden tomb will not be opened as the egyption government are saying that it does not excist, As we all know though it does.as for the body dating back 10500 years, it is true but the case on that has been closed due to the disapearance of the people in volved on the 23 april 1985. however the is a dig going on at this time 2006 which is being kept very huss huss, so will keep you in formed if i know any more, There is some chatter about the chamber really being a ship that will take people back to orion's belt. to which i do think there could be truth in this as there was a vidoe tape found that has the shows the people who disapeared in 85, getting taken aboard a bright light identified by the family and friends.

keep in touch

wayneisis



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