What Really Happened on 9/11?

Continued:

Actor James Woods' appearance on The O'Reilly Factor, February 14, 2002. In this interview Woods talks about witnessing a possible Hijacking drill shortly before 9/11:



Bill O'Reilly: ...Last August, Mr. Woods found himself on a plane going from Boston to Los Angeles. Surrounding him in first class were four men who appeared to be of Middle Eastern origin. Later, Mr. Woods told the FBI it was very suspicious. And they interviewed him after 9/11.

James Woods: ... I have not talked about this in the press until this day because there was a lot of misinformation that came out about it.

I was on a flight, without going into the details of what made me suspicious of these four men, although it would have been blatantly obvious to the most casual observer, I took it upon myself to go to the flight attendant and ask to speak to the pilot of the plane. The first officer came out. I reported to him that I felt that the four men, and I said, "Can you look over my shoulder and see who I'm talking about?" And he said, "Yeah." I said I think they're going to hijack this plane. I mean, everything they're doing, and I explained to him these details, which I've been asked to keep private, until whatever jurisdiction, you know -- whatever trials may take place, their behavior was such that I felt that they were going to hijack the plane.

I also said I'm very much aware of how serious it is to say on an American aircraft in flight the word hijack...

...So I'm saying this because I really have reason to believe it's true. I found out later that not only was -- did he make a report, but the flight attendant also made a report of my suspicions to the FAA.

When I got home that night, it had been a very turbulent flight, I had said to this woman I'm dating, and my girlfriend and my best friend, she said, "How was the flight?" And I said, "Well aside from the terrorists and the turbulence, it was fine," which was now in retrospect not such a very funny joke, but it was August 1 and nobody was thinking along those lines...

...And when 9/11 happened, we were all stunned. And we all happened to be at my house that evening. And my friend Scott said to me, "You know, remember that flight you took in August?" I said, "Yes, I've been thinking about it all day." He said, "Well, maybe you should call the FBI." And I said, "I'm sure they're being inundated."

But I thought it over and I called the local office. And within two minutes got ahold of a very intelligent young man, a special agent there, who took the report. And I said, "I hope I'm not wasting your time." He said, "Well, we have so many reports coming in." And he said, "And by the way, even if this leads to something, we don't like to backwash information to people, because in case they have to go to a trial and be witnesses or whatever, so you won't hear from us."

I said, "Well, great." And he said, "But we appreciate your calling." Quarter to 7:00 the next morning, I get a phone call that actually wakes me up. And I say, "Hi." And they say, "Hi, this is -- I won't use their name, but the special agent, who's now been my contact and his partner." And they said, "We want to talk to you about the flight that you took in August. I said, "Oh, did the manifest match of any of the flights yesterday and my flight?" He said we can't tell you that. I said, "Well, look, I'll get ready and you know, I'll come down to the federal building." He said, "That's OK, we're outside your house. We'll just wait for you here."

O'REILLY: Wow, 7:15. So this is serious.

WOODS: Quarter to seven in the morning. And said -- and I -- and this is the only funny part of any of this. I said, "How did you know where I lived?" And there was a pause. He said, "We're the FBI, thank you."

...So they came in. And I said, "Look, I'm dying to know, were these the guys? And he said, "Well, we've had 36,000 tips in one day. And there's two of us and we're going to be at your house all this morning. So you can do the math, but we can't tell you." You know, so since then, I have identified for sure two of them as two of the terrorists.

O'REILLY: Really?

WOODS: Who actually were not on Flight 11, but one was on flight 175 and one was on flight 77. And I've been told unofficially, not by the FBI, but by someone else in a -- actually a higher level of government, believe it or not, just through a coincidence, through a mutual friend, that all four of them were terrorists involved.

O'REILLY: That is -- so it was basically a rehearsal, what these guys were doing?

WOODS: Right. But what's significant about this is that it was a rehearsal with four men. And I can't say it as a fact that they were the four, but I've been led to believe without going into the details of how, that they were on different flights. So the notion that they were separate cells when -- and this is tricky territory, but I think in the Moussaoui trial, there's going to be some contention that, you know, he was a soldier and didn't know what was going to happen...

...until he stepped on the plane and then decided in a fit of good conscience not to be a terrorist anymore. In fact, the fact that these two people were identified by myself and other people, and were on the Boston-L.A. flight, and ended up dying on two other flights of the four flights on September 11 shows that they were...

O'REILLY: What an amazing story.

WOODS: There was...

O'REILLY: And this is the first time I've ever heard this. This is the first time you're telling the story.

WOODS: Yes.

O'REILLY: Was Moussaoui one of those guys?

WOODS: No. Not that I know of.

I mean, I don't remember him as such. I remember two of the guys so specifically...

...because one was that guy with the pointed hair.

...I mean, you'll see him -- I can't remember the name now, but he was so specifically clear because he actually looked like an actor.

O'REILLY: Now are you a type of guy -- so it was just you and these four guys in First Class. Nobody else else?

WOODS: No, no.

O'REILLY: There were a couple other guys?

WOODS: Yes.

O'REILLY: Were they nervous, too or was it just you picking these guys out?

WOODS: You know, as I explained to the FBI, they said what was your first instinct? And aside from certain things, like four guys getting on to a transcontinental flight without any hand luggage, who -- it's funny. I notice behavior because I guess I'm an actor and it's kind of what I...

I just kind of observe people.

It's something I've always been fascinated by. Sort of like that scene in "Annie Hall," where Woody Allen and Diane Keaton sit and watch people and sort of talk about who they might be.

And there were four guys. When the flight attendant, who was a woman, came up to them, they literally ignored her like she didn't exist, which is sort of a kind of Taliban, you know, idea of womanhood, as you know, not even a human being. I mean, it seems their disrespect for women is so extraordinary.

And they didn't order alcohol. And they just -- and -- I can't go into the details, but it just -- it was -- as I explained to the FBI, as if you were at a nightclub and everybody's enjoying an act on the stage. And the camera behind that act on the stage and sort of panning the audience. And everybody's focused on the singer, except four people sort of in the room kind of doing something else and connected to each other...

...Well, so -- they said to me, you know, "What made -- what did you think these guys were?" I said, well, I thought they were either four law enforcement officers or four terrorists in that they had that thing that -- guys who are undercover or on a mission have between each other. And it's impossible to explain.

O'REILLY: Well, you were lucky. You're absolutely lucky that they didn't decide to do it a month before.

WOODS: By the way, one thing I must clear up...

...that has been sort of misreported in the press. I did not report this to the FBI before September 11.

O'REILLY: Right, just the FAA.

WOODS: And it was only done by, as I understand it, the flight crew, which I had been told later...

Read the full transcript here: prisonplanet.com...

[size=24]9/11 Wargames & Terror Drills:

"Mr. Secretary, after the last Hearing, I thought that my office was promised a written response to my question regarding the four wargames on September 11th. I have not yet received that response, but would like for you to respond to the questions that I’ve put to you today. And then I do expect the written response to my previous question"
- Representative Cynthia Mckinney asking Donald Rumsfeld about the coincidental wargames that were running on 9/11.



Video clip of Cynthia Mckinney questioning Donald Rumsfeld (From January (Feb?), 2005, 2 min): fromthewilderness.com...

Video clip (from the quote above) of McKinney asking Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers, and Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller) Tina Jonas questions about Dyncorp slave rings, the 3 trillion missing from the pentagon, and 9/11 wargames. From House Hearing FY06 (Dept. of Defense Budget) March 11th, 2005:
www.spiegltech.com... (8 minutes long)

The transcript can be read here: www.911citizenswatch.org...

Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building - Associated Press: newsmine.org...

The lost "terror drill"? Pt.11 (A), By Nico Haupt
inn.globalfreepress.com...




Exercise naming conventions:
The terms used for NORAD exercises have specific meanings. Per NORAD Instruction 33-7:

“Nicknames: A combination of two separate unclassified words which is assigned an unclassified meaning and is employed for unclassified administration, morale or public information. The first word must begin with the combination of letters of the alphabet allocated to the using agency.” A nickname is used exclusively to designate a drill, or exercise. Exercise terms are used to prevent confusion between exercise directives with actual operations.”

● Vigilant or Amalgam means it is a HQ NORAD sponsored exercise.
● Guardian means it is a multi-command CPX, or command post exercise (no live-fly).

Which means that on 9/11 NORAD should have been conducting a NORADwide, multicommand, command post exercise with no live-fly.

Other exercise terms include:
● Warrior = JCS/HQ NORAD sponsored FTX, or field training exercise (live-fly) (Source: Arias Donald C Maj 1AF/PA [[email protected]] Crossing the Rubicon)

Vigilant Guardian: Reflected a cold war mind-set: NORAD Participants practiced for an attack across the North Pole by Russian forces. September 11 was Day II of ‘Vigilant Guardian,’ an exercise that would pose an imaginary crisis, including the hijacking of commercial airliners, to North American Air defense outposts nationwide.
(Source: multiple press sources including Aviation News,Newhouse News, Crossing the Rubicon)

Vigilant Warrior: According to Arias Donald C Maj 1AF/PA, Vigilant Warrior was a Joint Chiefs live-fly hijack drill.
(Source: Richard Clarke, p. 5 of his book Against All Enemies and in Crossing the Rubicon)

Northern Guardian: Exercise on 911. (Source: Toronto Star, Dec. 9, 2001)

Northern Vigilance: Live-fly and Simulated exercise in Alaska and Canada. NORAD states Northern Vigilance was a redeployment of fighter resources to northern Canada and Alaska for an old DEW [Distant Early Warning] line, over the pole, Russian Bear bomber attack, which was also going on, on 9/11. (Source: Toronto Star, Dec. 9, 2001, NORAD website)

Tripod II: Exercise on 911 involving the Justice Department and New York City and State authorities. It had nothing to do with hijackings but was instead an exercise focused on a biowarfare attack that had been set up on New York’s Pier 29, about two miles from the World Trade Center. (Source: Rudy Giuliani, 911 Commission testimony)

Unnamed: The National Reconnaissance Office, a joint creation of the CIA and the air force that operates US spy satellites, was also running an exercise on September 11th. This one happened to involve a plane crashing into the headquarters of the ultra-secret agency in the Washington, DC suburb of Chantilly, Virginia, just outside Dulles International airport, the origin of Flight 77. (Source: Associated Press Aug. 21, 2002; Mr. John Fulton of the CIA)

Source: Culhavoc from Deadline Live's message Board
www.phpbbserver.com...



What happened to NORAD on 9/11? (2 minute video clip)
terrorize.dk...

[size=24]The Pentagon:

"From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.

Live CNN report from Jamie McIntyre at the Pentagon on 9/11
Video excerpt: thewebfairy.com...

Entire Jamie McIntyre Live Report from the Pentagon:
terrorize.dk...

This is the only footage of the Pentagon attack that has been released to the public. It was captured by a camera mounted near a security gate on Pentagon grounds:



CNN - 'Images show September 11 Pentagon crash'
archives.cnn.com...

Video: Eyewitness (Don Wright) says that he saw a small commuter plane hit the Pentagon:
www.terrorize.dk...


Why did this reporter's mic get cut off after he reports that it was a US Air 737 that hit the Pentagon? Was it for not following the "official" script that an American Airlines 757 passenger jet hit the Pentagon?:
terrorize.dk...

Soon after the attack, surveillance video from surrounding businesses was confiscated by the FBI. Below is more information concerning that confiscation:





Documenting the legal process to obtain confiscated videos showing Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon on 9/11
www.flight77.info...

on the morning of september 11th, 2001 the FBI visited at least two private businesses near the pentagon and confiscated several security camera video tapes.

business #1 is the cigto gas station with several security cameras aimed in the direction of the pentagon. flight 77 flew directly over the gas station at an altitude of roughly 50 feet, less than 3 seconds from impact.

business #2 is the sheraton national hotel. it is known, based upon a prior FOIA report filed by CNN which requested the tapes - that the sheraton's security cameras DID capture the plane - however because of national security, the FBI won't release the video.


Barbara Olson, CNN pundit and wife of U.S. Solicitor General, Ted Olson was reported to have called her husband from flight 77 while her plane was being hijacked. The two articles below build a strong case that Mrs. Olson's phone calls never took place:

Mother of All Lies About 9/11 - Barbara Olson's "Phone Call" From Flight 77:
www.vialls.com...

Barbara Olson's call from Flight 77 never happened:
globalecho.org...

[size=24]Operation Northwoods:

Pg 6: 4. We could develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington.

Pg 8: 3. A "Remember the Maine" incident could be arranged in several forms:
a. We could blow up a US ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba.

Pg 10: 8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner...

Pg 10: 8a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.

Pg 10: 8b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled,to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to " sell" the incident.

- Excerpts from the Official Northwoods Documents, 1962




Pentagon Proposed Pretexts for Cuba Invasion in 1962

In his new exposé of the National Security Agency entitled Body of Secrets, author James Bamford highlights a set of proposals on Cuba by the Joint Chiefs of Staff codenamed OPERATION NORTHWOODS. This document, titled “Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba” was provided by the JCS to Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara on March 13, 1962, as the key component of Northwoods. Written in response to a request from the Chief of the Cuba Project, Col. Edward Lansdale, the Top Secret memorandum describes U.S. plans to covertly engineer various pretexts that would justify a U.S. invasion of Cuba. These proposals - part of a secret anti-Castro program known as Operation Mongoose - included staging the assassinations of Cubans living in the United States, developing a fake “Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington,” including “sink[ing] a boatload of Cuban refugees (real or simulated),” faking a Cuban airforce attack on a civilian jetliner, and concocting a “Remember the Maine” incident by blowing up a U.S. ship in Cuban waters and then blaming the incident on Cuban sabotage. Bamford himself writes that Operation Northwoods “may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government.”

Read the Documents at The National Security Archive:
www2.gwu.edu...





ABC NEWS - U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."

More: abcnews.go.com...

[size=24]Coincidence?

NY Lottery Numbers: 911 on the first anniversary of the 9/11 attacks:
www.cbsnews.com...

S&P Futures Close At: 911.00 on the first anniversary of the 9/11 attacks

John O'Neill, Al Qaeda Expert died on 9/11. It's was reportedly his first day on the job:



Ellen Mariani's RICO Suit against Bush et al.
61 B: 3. Evidence that U.S. authorities were concerned

"Soon after the late John O'Neil had become head of the FBI's New York unit, he warned, "A lot of these groups now have the capability and the support infrastructure in the United States to attack us here if they choose to." (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil, who was described as one of the FBI's 'most pugnacious' agents, resigned from the FBI shortly before 9-11. He subsequently took a position as head of the WTC security, where he is believed to have died on the day of the attacks while attempting to rescue other people in the towers. September 11 had been his first day on the job. (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil had complained that the Bush administration had impeded his investigations into suspected Saudi terrorists. (Brisard and Dasquie 2001in Godoy 11-16-2001; Marlowe 11-19-2001)"
Source: nancho.net...


Also from the Mariani Lawsuit:



[size=18] 9/11 Victim Ellen Mariani's Suit Against Bush et al.

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(2) 1996-2001. The FBI was investigating suspected terrorists enrolled in flight schools

In 1996, after the Philippine police had discovered the 'Bojinka' plot (see above), US officials began investigating al Qaeda terrorist suspects who were training in U.S. flight schools. "Since 1996, the FBI had been developing evidence that international terrorists were using US flight schools to learn to fly jumbo jets. A foiled plot in Manila to blow up U.S. airliners and later court testimony by an associate of bin Laden had touched off FBI inquiries at several schools, officials say." (cited in Fairnaru and Grimaldi 9-23-2001; Martin 1-16-2002; Shelon 5-18-2002)

(3) 1996 or 1997. FBI Counter terrorist specialist John O'Neil warned of terrorist capabilities

Soon after the late John O'Neil had become head of the FBI's New York unit, he warned, "A lot of these groups now have the capability and the support infrastructure in the United States to attack us here if they choose to." (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil, who was described as one of the FBI's 'most pugnacious' agents, resigned from the FBI shortly before 9-11. He subsequently took a position as head of the WTC security, where he is believed to have died on the day of the attacks while attempting to rescue other people in the towers. September 11 had been his first day on the job. (Loeb 9-12-2002) John O'Neil had complained that the Bush administration had impeded his investigations into suspected Saudi terrorists. (Brisard and Dasquie 2001in Godoy 11-16-2001; Marlowe 11-19-2001)

(4) 1997. FBI was investigating Middle Eastern flight school students in Phoenix

Summarizing a letter written by former FBI Special Agent James Hauswirth, the Los Angeles Times wrote: "In 1998, the office's international terrorism squad investigated a possible Middle Eastern extremist taking flight lessons at a Phoenix airport, wrote Hauswirth, who retired from the FBI in 1999."

(5) 1998. The FAA issued a warning that al Qaeda may attempt to hijack commercial airlines

In 1998, Federal Aviation Administration warned airlines to be on a 'high degree of alertness' against possible hijackings by members of Osama bin Laden's organizations. (AP 5-26-2002). May 18, 1998. FBI memo observed that an 'unusually' large number of Middle Eastern men were attending flight schools. The memo revealed that an Oklahoma FBI pilot had warned his supervisor "that he has observed large numbers of Middle Eastern males receiving flight training at Oklahoma airports in recent months." The FBI pilot further observed, "This is a recent phenomena and may be related to planned terrorist activity." Washington 5-30-2002)


(6) 199? – 2001. According to anonymous sources it was widely known that important warnings were being ignored

The New American magazine interviewed three federal law enforcement agents who confirmed that the FBI had foreknowledge of the attacks. They spoke only on conditions of anonymity, although two of them told the magazine that they would be willing to testify to Congress. One agent stated that it was widely known "all over the Bureau, how these [warnings] were ignored by Washington... All indications are that this information came from some of [the Bureau's] most experienced guys, people who have devoted their lives to this kind of work. But their warnings were placed in a pile in someone's office in Washington...In some cases, these field agents predicted, almost precisely, what happened on September 11th. So we were all holding our breath…hoping that the situation would be remedied." [Emphasis added] (cited in Grigg 3-11-2002)


(7) Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 2001 report

The New York Times reported, "The Federal Aviation Administration published a report called Criminal Acts Against Aviation on its Web site in 2001 before the hijackings that said that although Osama bin Laden 'is not known to have attacked civil aviation, he has both the motivation and the wherewithal to do so.' It added, 'Bin Laden's anti-Western and anti-American attitudes make him and his followers a significant threat to civil aviation, particularly to U.S. civil aviation'." (Martin 1-16-2002; Sanger and Bumiller 5-17-2002)


(8) Early 2001. Court proceedings revealed that al Qaeda operatives were training in
American flight schools

In early 2001, the trial of four men accused of being involved in the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania revealed that members of bin Laden's network had received flying lessons in Texas and Oklahoma. (USA vs. Usama bin Laden et al.; Foden 9-13-2001; Martin 1-16-2002)


(9) January-February 2001. Case of Hani Hanjour

During his attendance at an Arizona flight school, Hani Hanjour arose the suspicion of flight instructor Peggy Chevrette, who felt that Hani both lacked the skill and English for the pilot license he already had. She repeatedly called FAA authorities, who sent one of their inspectors, John Anthony, to look into her concerns. In spite of the fact that FAA guidelines clearly stipulate that fluency in English is required for a U.S. commercial pilot's license, the FAA inspector, according to Chevrette, suggested Hanjour be provided with a translator. Even after Anthony had visited the school, the flight instructor continued calling the FAA twice more with concerns that he didn't have the skills needed to have a license. Hani Hanjour left the school before completing the program. (MSNBC 5-10-2002) The flight school, JetTech, closed after September 11. Sources did not explain why. In addition to the suspicion that he arose at the flight school, he also caught the attention of an FBI informant. Aukai Collins told ABC news that he was an FBI informant for four years. He claims that in 1996, he provided the FBI with very specific information about Hani, including "his exact address, his phone number and even what car he drove." While the FBI admitted that Collins had been an informant, they 'emphatically denied' that he had tipped the agency off to Hani Hanjour. (ABC News 5-23-2002)


(10) February 2001. Warning from George Tenet: bin Laden and al Qaeda are the most serious threat to the U.S. and they intend to inflict mass casualties

In February of 2001, CIA Director George Tenet warned that bin Laden should be considered the "most immediate and serious threat" to the U.S and added, "As we have increased security around government and military facilities, terrorists are seeking out 'softer' targets that provide opportunities for mass casualties." (cited in CNN 5-16-2002 "Timeline: Events leading up to September 11"; Cornwell 5-25-2002)


(11) Summer 2001. Former chief investigative counsel warned U.S. Justice Department that FBI believed terrorists were planning to attack lower Manhattan

(a) David Shippers, a Chicago attorney who had been the chief investigative counsel in the attempted impeachment of Clinton, warned the U.S. Justice Department that a massive terrorist attack had been planned for lower Manhattanbased on what FBI agents from Chicago and Minnesota had told him. His warning was shunned by officials, one of which stated, "We don't start our investigations at the top." (cited in Grigg 3-11-2002)

(b) During an October 10, 2001 radio interview, he revealed that he had warned "Attorney General John Ashcroft and Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert that he had proof from a credible source (that he has still not revealed) about a plot to use hijacked commercial airliners to ram the White House and Capitol." (Chin 5-19-2002)

(d) On May 30 2002, one of Shipper’s sources in the FBI, Special Agent Robert Wright disclosed in a testimony broadcasted on C-SPAN that FBI officials and other agents had 'stymied’ his own investigations into suspected terrorists. (Horrock 5-30-2002)

(12) Summer 2001. The 'threat assessment’

On July 26 2001, CBS News reported that Attorney General John Ashcroft was no longer using commercial airliners to travel – even for personal business – because of a "threat assessment" issued by the FBI. Instead Ashcroft was using a chartered jet that cost taxpayers $1,600/hr to fly. The news network further reported: "Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it." (CBS News 7-26-2001)


(13) June 2001. A Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) June circular

According to ABC sources the FAA distributed a circular in June of 2001 that stated, "Although we have no specific information that this threat is directed at civil aviation, the potential for terrorist operations, such as an airline hijacking to free terrorists incarcerated in the U.S. remains a concern." (ABC 5-17-2002; Hersh and Isikoff 5-27-2002) According to Newsweek’s sources, 10-12 such circulars were issued to U.S. airports between June 11 and September 11 (Hersh and Isikoff 5-27-2002). One of the circulars reportedly warned of possible hijackings on flights originating from East Coast airports. (Salant 5-26-2002)


(14) June 9, 2001. Internal FBI memo

Special Agent Robert Wright wrote a memo on June 9 warning the FBI that the Bureau’s failure to take decisive action against known terrorist suspects operating within the country would likely result in the loss of American lives. Parts of the memo read, "Knowing what I know, I can confidently say that until the investigative responsibilities for terrorism are transferred from the FBI, I will not feel safe. The FBI has proven for the past decade it cannot identify and prevent acts of terrorism against the United States and its citizens at home and abroad. Even worse, there is virtually no effort on the part of the FBI's International Terrorism Unit to neutralize known and suspected international terrorists living in the United States. Unfortunately, more terrorist attacks against American interests - coupled with the loss of American lives - will have to occur before those in power give this matter the urgent attention it deserves." (cited in Johnson 5-30-2002)



(15) July 2, 2001. FBI memo

FBI issued a memo stating, "There are threats to be worried about overseas. While we cannot foresee attacks domestically, we cannot rule them out." (cited in CNN 5-16-2002 "Timeline: Events leading up to September 11")


(16) July 3, 2001. Federal investigators learned significant intelligence from Ahmed Ressam, and al Qaeda operative who had planned to bomb Los Angeles Airport

Newsweek reported, "After he was convicted in the spring of 2001, Ressam started giving investigators detailed information on Al Qaeda’s designs in the United States. He left no doubt that U.S. airports were a prime target "because an airport is sensitive politically and economically," as Ressam said in Court on July 3. (Hirsh and Isikoff 5-27-2002)


(17) July 10, 2001. Internal FBI memo warned that men with suspected ties to terrorist groups were training in Arizona flight schools

(a) On July 10 of 2001, FBI agent Kenneth Williams in Arizona sent a memo from the Phoenix FBI office to the radical fundamentalist anti-terrorism unit (which was aware of the Moussaoui case -see below) in the Bureau’s Washington headquarters warning that several Arab men with suspected ties to terrorist groups were training at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Arizona. (Solomon 5-3-2002; Risen 5-4-2002; Johnston 5-15-2002; Hersh and Isikoff 5-27-2002; Johnston and van Natta 5-21-2002; Cornwell 5-25-2002; Lumkin 5-25-2002)

(b) Interestingly, the memo mentioned Osama bin Laden by name and speculated that his organization may be attempting to infiltrate the U.S. aviation industry with pilots, security guards, and maintenance workers. (Johnston 5-15-2002). Williams had associated the flight school students with al Qaeda based on a link he had established between several of the students and the London-based militant Muslim group, al-Muhajiroun, whose leader was an open supporter of bin Laden (Seper 5-23-2002; AP 5-23-2002). One Senator who had read the memo told reporters, "I will tell you, though, that although he didn't come up with the exact Sept. 11 scenario, what he presents in that memo was so close to the fact pattern that emerged on Sept. 11 that, as you read it, it just takes your breath away." (De la Garza 5-23-2002). William’s concerns were spurned in part with interviews he had conducted with the Arab students who had demonstrated extreme anti-American views (Johnston and van Natta 5-22-2002; Mitchell 5-22-2002).

c) The memorandum also made some suggestions about possible recourses of action. It stated, "Phoenix believes that the F.B.I. should accumulate a listing of civil aviation universities/colleges around the country. F.B.I. field offices with these types of schools in their area should establish appropriate liaison. F.B.I. HQ should discuss this matter with other elements of the U.S. intelligence community and task the community for any information that supports Phoenix's suspicions." No action was taken. (cited in Solomon 5-3-2002; Risen 5-4-2002)


(18) July 18, 2001. FBI memo

The memo stated, "We’re concerned about threats as a result of the millennium plot conviction....There’s no specific target, no credible info of attacks to U.S. civil aviation interests, but terror groups are known to be planning and training for hijackings, and we ask you therefore to use caution." (cited in CNN 5-16-2002 "Timeline: Events leading up to September 11")


(19) August 6, 2001. Memo ("The Smoking Gun RICO Act Obstruction of Justice Claim")(emphasis added).


(a) On August 6, President George Bush received an intelligence briefing, titled "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN THE U.S." that warned that bin Laden may attempt to hijack airplanes and that the Saudi millionaire’s terrorist organization wanted "to bring the fight to America." This information was relayed to Bush after he had previously been supplied with intelligence of a more generalized quality that had indicated that al Qaeda was planning to attack the U.S or U.S. interests abroad. (Eggen and Woodward 5-18-2002; CBS News 5-16-2002; Boncombe 5-19-2002).

(b) An intelligence officer told CBS News (5-16-2002) that a hijacking "was among the many things that we talked about all the time as a potential terrorist threat. But when we talked about hijackings, we talked about that in the traditional sense of hijackings, not in the sense of somebody hijacking an aircraft and flying it into a building. We talked about concern about the general noise level about al Qaeda planning and we were trying to figure out what they would do. We never had specifics about time, place, MO (method of operation)."

(c) Dan Eggen and Bob Woodward (5-18-2002; see also Buncombe 5-19-2002) of The Washington Post revealed that according to their sources, the August 6 briefing had been a result of Bush’s request for "an intelligence analysis of possible al Qaeda attacks within the United States, because most of the information presented to him over the summer about al Qaeda focused on threats against U.S. targets overseas." Furthermore they noted that the content of the memo, as described by their sources, "was focused primarily on a discussion of possible domestic targets." This stands in stark contrast with what Condoleezza Rice had told reporters when she said that the memo had focused primarily on threats to U.S. interests abroad. Additionally, the two reporters questioned the truthfulness of a statement given by Ari Fleischer. Whereas The Washington Post’s sources insisted that the title of the memo was "Bin Laden determined to strike in America," Fleischer had stated that the title was "Bin Laden determined to strike America." The source of the terrorist threats contained in the August 6 memo reportedly came from British intelligence. (Bennetto and Gumbel 5-18-2002)

(d) Commenting on the disturbing revelation, The New York Times pondered, "It was not clear this evening why the White House waited eight months after the terrorist attacks in New York and Washington to reveal what Mr. Bush had been told." (Sanger 5-16-2002)


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The full lawsuit can be read here:
www.nancho.net...


"The Lone Gunmen" pilot episode that aired only a couple of months prior to 9/11 (The X-Files spinoff shows a government plan to remote-control a plane to crash into The World Trade Center to use as a pretext for war):
www.prisonplanet.com...

Actor Dean Haglund from "The X-Files" & "The Lone Gunmen" says that he believes 9/11 was staged: www.prisonplanet.tv...

MSNBC - Trade Center warning baffles police
An ‘urban myth’ turns out to be true — but what does it mean?
newsmine.org...

Michael Chertoff’s ties to financiers of the 9/11 attacks: www.universitystar.com...

9/11 & CHERTOFF: COUSIN WROTE 9/11 PROPAGANDA FOR PM: forums.bluelemur.com...




Xymphora.blogspot.com
Sunday, February 20, 2005

Here are some quotes (or here) for the coincidence theorists:

"It was a beautiful Tuesday morning in Washington, DC. The sky was blue; the air was crisp; and millions of Americans were making their way to their jobs just like they did on any other day. But this was no ordinary day. In fact it was a day that would change my life and change the course of American history. On this day, September 11, 2001, I rode with the top down in my friend's convertible along the highway toward the Pentagon. As I listened in disbelief to the radio reports of terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center in New York, I was snapped back into reality by the roar of jet engines only a couple hundred feet above my head. Flight 77 then crashed in front of my eyes in a fiery explosion into the Pentagon."
and (or here):

"With the Pentagon in sight, the roar of jet engines quickly filled the air. I looked over my left shoulder and saw the aircraft only a couple hundred feet over head. It was so loud and so low and so fast, and I knew in an instant that something was terribly wrong. I wanted to scream, but the only words that would come out were 'Oh no.' A few seconds later, American Airlines Flight 77 flew into the Pentagon and exploded in a burst of flame right in front of my eyes."

The author of these fine eyewitness statements? Bobby Eberle, President and CEO of GOPUSA. I have speculated that at least some of the witnesses to the crash of Flight 77 into the Pentagon were ringers planted by the conspirators. What are the chances that Eberle, whose name has come up prominently in Gannongate, was an eyewitness to the crash? Those who are so certain that the testimony of eyewitnesses means that Flight 77 must have crashed into the Pentagon, despite the enormous amount of physical evidence to the contrary, just might want to give their heads a shake and rethink things. If the evidence of the crash of Flight 77 is so goddamn clear, why did the operators in the Republican Party feel the need to gild the lily?

xymphora.blogspot.com...





Xymphora.blogspot.com
Monday, February 21, 2005

Forget about Gannon. The only reason he has been interesting is the purient part of his story. I'm reading more and more about how everyone in the White House, up to and including Rove and Bush, is as gay as Paul Lynde, which just reflects the deep homophobia in the coverage of Gannongate. The gay aspect is a red herring. The deep politics aspect of the story is the connection between the White House, conservative e-mail harvester and fundraiser Bruce W. Eberle, and GOPUSA President Bobby Eberle. Bobby Eberle's eyewitness testimony of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon is the big break we've been waiting for, the first tiny window into the American conspiracy behind 9-11.

Source:
xymphora.blogspot.com...

[size=24]Misc 9/11

And I think all of us have a sense if we imagine the kind of world we would face if the people who bombed the mess hall in Mosul, or the people who did the bombing in Spain, or the people who attacked the United States in New York, shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon, the people who cut off peoples' heads on television to intimidate, to frighten -- indeed the word "terrorized" is just that. Its purpose is to terrorize, to alter behavior, to make people be something other than that which they want to be.

-Donald Rumsfeld, surprise Christmas Eve visit to Iraq, 2004

FBI Admits No Evidence Links 'Hijackers' To 911
newsmine.org...




DailyKos.com

Robert Mueller let the cat out of the bag, and no one noticed.
by Eyeball Kid
Wed Jun 15th, 2005 at 23:36:12 PDT

Here's an excerpt from the article, the complete version of which is at:

www.prisonplanet.com...

It was published on 6/11/03.

"The stunning news prompted FBI Director Robert Mueller to admit that some of the hijackers may have stolen identities of innocent citizens. In September 2002, Mueller told CNN twice that there is "no legal proof to prove the identities of the suicidal hijackers." After that admission a strange thing happened - nothing. No follow-up stories. No follow-up questions. There was dead silence and the story disappeared. It was almost as if no one wanted to know what had happened. In fact, the FBI didn't bother to change the names, backgrounds or photographs of the alleged 19 hijackers. It didn't even deny the news reports suggesting that the names and identities of at least six of the hijackers may be unknown. Mueller just left the door open."

What an admission.

So the FBI really doesn't know anything about who the hijackers really were (or "are"). There is no way to positively identify any of the hijackers. No credible records, no credible paper trails. No nothing, says Mueller, who headed the Federal Bureau of INVESTIGATIONS.

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(Read More)
www.dailykos.com...


Several of the 9/11 'Hijackers' are still alive:
news.bbc.co.uk...

Is this really Osama bin Laden confessing to 9/11:

Video: archives.cnn.com...

Here's a picture of the real Osama:





The 9/11 COMMISSION v. 19 NAMED MUSLIMS: A TRIAL IN ABSENTIA
www.karlschwarz.com...

WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANSWERS TO THESE 9/11 QUESTIONS?
By WILLIAM BUNCH, Philadelphia Daily News, Sep. 11, 2003
newsmine.org...

Interview with W. David Kubiak - May 29, 2004: www.digitalstylecreations.com...




CNN Online Poll: 89% Believe There's Been a 9/11 Cover-up

On Wednesday, November 10th, Anderson Cooper featured Kyle Hence and Jimmy Walter regarding the latter's TV ad campaign to expose 9/11 truth on WTC 7 and the Pentagon strike. Although Cooper also introduced "official story" apologist Gerald Posner to discredit the ads (with already stale and discredited excuses), the viewers were apparently not impressed and 89% of respondents to the show's online poll remain convinced there's been a government cover-up:



www.911truth.org...


From Zogby.com:



[size=18]Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and “Consciously Failed” To Act
66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York’s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
www.zogby.com...




9/11-truthers confront NIST at WTC-collapse whitewash conference (video)
Saturday, June 25, 2005
www.total911.info...

TORONTO STAR, May 26, 2004. 01:00 AM
Poking holes in the official story of 9/11
newsmine.org...

Honorable Paul Hellyer, Former Defense Minister of Canada, talks about 9/11 - May 27, 2004. Approx 5 min: www.digitalstylecreations.com...

Former Bush Team Member Says WTC Collapse Likely A Controlled Demolition And 'Inside Job'
bellaciao.org...
washingtontimes.com...

Former Asst. Sec. Of Treasury Under Reagan Doubts Official 9/11 Story
www.libertypost.org...

Former MI5 Agent Says 9/11 An Inside Job
Attack Was 'Coup de'tat,' Buildings Were Demolished By Controlled Demolitions
prisonplanet.com...

EXPLOSIVES PLANTED IN TOWERS, NEW MEXICO TECH EXPERT SAYS
14 September 2001
www.abqjournal.com...

New Mexico Tech Explosives Expert 'Flip-Flops' On WTC Controlled Demo Theory; Refuses To Explain Why
news.baou.com...

Underwriters Laboratories (UL) Executive, Kevin Ryan Speaks Out on WTC Study
www.911truth.org...

9/11 ALERT: 9/11 whistleblower, Kevin Ryan (Underwriters Laboratories) FIRED
www.scoop.co.nz...

Kevin Ryan - A Personal Decision
www.scoop.co.nz...

9/11: Ten Smoking Guns
www.prisonplanet.com...

Video: David Ray Griffin Reveals Major 9/11 Cover-up on C-SPAN:
www.wanttoknow.info...

C-SPAN callers slam 9/11 Commissioner Lee Hamilton
www.total911.info...

[size=24]How & Why Did This Happen In America?

"...the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."?

- Project for a New American Century (PNAC), Rebuilding America's Defenses -- Strategy, Forces, and Resources for a New Century, September 2000

Micheal Meacher discusses PNAC's "New Pearl Harbor" quote (90 second video clip): terrorize.dk...

9-11, A false Flag Operation - Ralph Schoenman: sandiego.indymedia.org...

9/11 was the catastrophic and catalyzing event that was needed to get the people of the United States to support an invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq. The article below describes how the US was planning for a war in Afghanistan just shortly before the events on 9/11 took place:



Tuesday, 18 September, 2001, 11:27 GMT 12:27 UK
[size=18]US 'planned attack on Taleban'
The wider objective was to oust the Taleban, By the BBC's George Arney

...A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban even before last week's attacks.

Niaz Naik, a former Pakistani Foreign Secretary, was told by senior American officials in mid-July that military action against Afghanistan would go ahead by the middle of October.

The wider objective, according to Mr Naik, would be to topple the Taleban regime and install a transitional government of moderate Afghans in its place - possibly under the leadership of the former Afghan King Zahir Shah.

Mr Naik was told that Washington would launch its operation from bases in Tajikistan, where American advisers were already in place.

Mr Naik was told that if the military action went ahead it would take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.

And he said it was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if Bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taleban...

newsmine.org...


The Story we Hear on the News and Read in the Newspapers is simply not believable, by Stan Goff, Retired US Special Forces Master Sergeant, October 2001:
newsmine.org...

Karl Schwarz - Confronting the evidence: A call to re-open the 9/11 investigation, Quicktime video (approx 10 minutes): rbnlive.com...

SECRET EVIL OF 9/11
An excellent 20 minute video presentation concerning the events of 9/11 (12mb download):
www.plaguepuppy.net...

An important message to all 9/11 truthseekers from 911sharethetruth.com:



[size=18]Take Back America with 9/11 Truth

A Call to All True Patriots

We have actively studied the questionable nature of the official version of what happened to our nation on September 11, 2001. Throughout the first year after 9-11 we ignored and did not believe those who asked us to question the official story. Like millions of Americans we believed America had been attacked by terrorists from abroad. Sadly, we are now convinced that rogue elements within our government committed a vicious criminal act against its own citizens for the larger purpose of swaying us to support both domestic and foreign policies mapped out in the late 1990's. 9-11 was Hitler's Reichstag fire of 1933 and Roosevelt's Pearl Harbor masterfully coordinated to achieve the desired ends of an imperialistic role for America in the world, patriotic support at home and the erosion of our constitutional rights. In a nutshell, the war on terrorism is a cruel hoax by a misguided, out-of-democratic control small group of individuals sabotaging the best of American values. We are in the midst of a constitutional crisis combined with severe domination from an Orwellian corporate media knowingly or unknowingly being of service to the true powerbrokers behind the curtain.

We feel like we are living in the "Matrix" where we can blend in, but knowing something is horribly wrong and must be exposed. The quality of life for all of our loved ones is at stake along with the hopes of millions of people for a world of peace, freedom and ecological sustainability. If just a few of you take the time to study a little more and become involved in the 9-11 Truth movement we will be greatly appreciative. We strongly feel that everyone should involve themselves in this effort to expose the truth about 9-11 and in the greatest push ever from the grassroots to nonviolently replace our current despotic leadership. It would have tremendous positive consequences, if similar to the fall of Nixon over Watergate, that the Bush administration was exposed on this and replaced. This outrageous criminal act must be brought to justice and our freedoms restored. We need to reach out now to all those who may be willing to hear, break the silence and take courageous action.

Unplug the War Machine

They lied about Iraq and Afghanistan and just about everything else. Why are we willing to accept their version of 9/11 that made it all possible?

Initially, most of us fell for their version of the events. But then came the slip-ups. The leaseholder of the World Trade Center admitting on PBS in 'Rebuilding America' that WTC-7 was 'pulled' on 9/11, which is the standard slang for controlled demolition.

Look at the tapes from that day when TV anchors, Aaron Brown and Dan Rather first said the very same words about the collapses. Firefighters and rescue workers talked about explosives and bombs going off, all over in the buildings.

Recall the horrific images of the over 100-story towers coming down at free-fall speed, defying the laws of physics.

Recall the engineers who first stated that the planes and fires alone could not have caused the deadly collapse.

Now the evidence is gone, witnesses silenced, an independent, real investigation never happened.

Sure, it is hard to accept that we have all been fooled so long, but only discovering and facing the truth will set the U.S. free.

Join the 9-11 Truth Movement and help pull the bottom card in their house of cards.

- 9-11 Truth Activist of Northern California

www.911sharethetruth.com...

[size=24]The Government's Version:

The 9-11 Commission Report
Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, Official Government Edition:
a257.g.akamaitech.net...

If you are new to the 9/11 truth movement, this information is probably overwhelming for you to digest all at once, so please take your time to research everything that is posted here if you are interested in learning the truth about 9/11. If you do take the time to research this information and come to the conclusion that there is enough evidence available warranting further investigation into what took place on September 11, 2001, please sign this online petition calling for the investigation to be reopened:
www.justicefor911.org...

Thank you to those who took the time to read this information. With your help, the truth about what really happened on 9/11 may someday be known to all.

Longest post ever havent even read much of it yet, but theres a forum for this type of thing, down the page


www.abovetopsecret.com...

Bin ladin, Khalid Mohammed, and Ramzi Yousef had all been plotting for a long while to destroy the WTC and ram planes in suicide missions into buildings. When the first WTC attack failed to bring it down, the people captured declared that they'd try it again and knock the towers down.

You do not need bombs to make a building fall down, the very idea is prepostrous. The WTC had an unusual and perhaps poor design, putting great stress on its center columns and even the skin of the builidng, all bolted together by steel, all the bolts having the tremedous pressure of the building pulling against them. Heat them so that they loose their designed and specific strenght, and of course they are going to pull apart and fail. Add to that that the fire-proofing for the steel was garbage, and laid on by a mob-linked construction company, and you hardly need reference magical bombs that were invisibly put into the building.


Bin Ladin plotted the 911 attacks.

I just love the way you go to compare the pictures of Osama and have the real one 'x'ed out. Those pics have already been debunked along with the other drivel which you happened to take from another website. At least come up with something original.

Originally posted by Nygdan
Add to that that the fire-proofing for the steel was garbage, and laid on by a mob-linked construction company, and you hardly need reference magical bombs that were invisibly put into the building.

So, just because a construction company has mob ties...it means that they do shotty jobs? How about I tell you just about every construction company in NYC has some kind of mob ties to it....whether they know it or not. Does that make every building in NYC shotty then?

Originally posted by Nygdan

Bin Ladin plotted the 911 attacks.

And the CIA trained and funded Osama til the mid 1990's.

Btw, where is the smoking gun proof Osama and "al Qaeda" Was behind 9/11?
The US sure announced they did it quickly...as in the day after 9/11.

It's funny, the Pakistani ISI gave Muhammed Atta $100,000 before 9/11.
Follow the money trail and you'll see some level of CIA linked complicity and funding, along with front corporations like PTech and BMI.

Great data mining, jihad. (shame about the name, though lol)

I've bookmarked this one for future reference.

Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Great data mining, jihad.

(shame about the name, though lol)

why shame on his name ? surely U are not one of the poor misguided souls who thinks "jihad" simply means "I-am-here-to-kill-everyone-in-the-name-of-Allah" wecomeinpeace ? "Jihad" can be a sacrifice of good things too, please do look it up
Jihad is actually one of my cousins birth names, it is not necessarily bad people! gee lol

I did only skim through today Jihad, but what I saw was enough to reinforce my belief that 911 is the Bush administration's baby. I shall read more after work.

Peace.

Originally posted by Nygdan
You do not need bombs to make a building fall down, the very idea is prepostrous. The WTC had an unusual and perhaps poor design, putting great stress on its center columns and even the skin of the builidng, all bolted together by steel, all the bolts having the tremedous pressure of the building pulling against them. Heat them so that they loose their designed and specific strenght, and of course they are going to pull apart and fail. Add to that that the fire-proofing for the steel was garbage, and laid on by a mob-linked construction company, and you hardly need reference magical bombs that were invisibly put into the building.

The guy that designed the WTC Towers was an architectural genius, and it's rather presumptious of you to claim the towers were poorly designed. On top of that, NYC has very strict codes on the stability of skyscrapers. They have to be able to hold so much more weight than they will ever have to hold in practice for a week without any problems, etc., and of course the towers all passed these requirements. Knocking out a few columns here and there way up the buildings would not bring the whole buildings down, and it didn't. Not that there would be enough potential energy in the caps to crush all the floors beneath, and yet the collapse didn't show so much as a ritard, but that's going into scientific evidence, and I don't suppose you'd rather go there, but elect instead to think simply and along the same lines you always have in regards to 9/11.

Originally posted by ImJaded
why shame on his name ? surely U are not one of the poor misguided souls who thinks "jihad" simply means "I-am-here-to-kill-everyone-in-the-name-of-Allah" wecomeinpeace ?

Yes, thank you ImJaded, I'm aware that Jihad is a term which has been stigmatized. As far as I'm aware, the general definition of the word is "struggle" or "striving". Am I far off the mark? Also note that I wrote, "shame about the name", not "shame on the name" as you have misquoted me. What I meant by this is that the author will probably receive some flak or prejudice from those who do not understand the true meaning of the term or are sensitive to it, which in general also includes the category of people who are vehemently opposed to any suggestion of government complicity in the events of 9-11.

Hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

whew!!! I honestly did think U knew better, was just like when I saw that lol
I think it is easy to misinterpret your meaning when typed out is all. Hopefully nobody else will now we got that out of the way

Great Post!! And I LOVE your name

You have voted jihad for the Way Above Top Secret award. You have used all of your votes for this month.

With a username like JIHAD, I find it quite amusing that you would attempt to define the parameters of 9/11 on a massive internet forum, amongst which a large percentage of the members thereof are intent on contributing to the denying of ignorance. Perhaps you should reanalyze your strategy with regard to posting on ATS, it could have an enormous effect on your acceptance within the community.

Awesome compilation of info there :up

Scary list of things that don't add up, and to everyone still buying the official story: remove your eyepatches and see that this is "fishy" to say the least.

YAWN . . . .

same old same old.


All of your "points" have been debated and debunked in other threads.

Originally posted by HowardRoark

All of your "points" have been debated and debunked in other threads.

Care to show me and the others out there where you or ANYONE else has debunked all of the "points"? I'll make it easy......just focus on WTC7. Now debunk away.