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originally posted by soficrow
So IMO - talking about what we're doing is part of the whole thing. Fundamental to democracy - and the success of democracy.
Originally posted by Springer
...there is NO "editorial policy" at ATSNN, it's MEMBER DRIVEN...
Originally posted by Springer
What democracy? ATS is not a democracy, ATSNN is not a democracy...
Originally posted by Springer
Maybe it's just too late at night for me...
Originally posted by loam
The tone of this thread got ugly fast.
I'm not griping. Just trying to initate a civil, reflective discussion.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
However the title, ATSNN: Just Another Propaganda Tool? was poorly chosen and likely to cause a knee-jerk reaction as another drama-inspired attack on ATS.
SkepticOverlord
When ATSNN was first launched, it was intended as the current events news portal for a very large conspiracy theory community. As such, the intent was that we have a primary focus on analysis of major media news as it relates to ATS topics.
With nearly two years of growth and evolution under it's belt, ATSNN has gone through many phases, some good and some bad. The current phase that allows the decisions of what is news and what is not to be in the hands of ATS members is (I believe) a very good phase.
Some tweaks of the member-driven system have taken place, and more are coming. However, we seem to have lost the focus of what we are to the point where nearly any news is considered for posting in an effort to harvest the points of upgrade.
We should find the appropriate balance of member-driven inspiration and ATS-specific topical focus.
But initiating a thread with a title that reads like a drama episode is not the way to inspire any change.
And I used the word inspire on purpose, because change will likely not be mandated, it must occur through the inspiration of our members.
Originally posted by Springer
PLEASE tell me you were being a "smarty pants" here. I couldn't take the insult to my and worse yet, our Member's intelligence.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
However the title, ATSNN: Just Another Propaganda Tool? was poorly chosen and likely to cause a knee-jerk reaction as another drama-inspired attack on ATS.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I mean let's really get down to business here. Please, dear admins, can you please provide us with say 3 to 5 examples each of:
1) what you consider to be suitable, appropriate, ATSNN stories and your reasons why?
2) what you consider to be non suitable, inappropriate ATSNN stories and again your reasons why?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
I know you have appologized for it, which is admirable. But maybe this will help explain my initial vitriol, for which I appologize also.
(Re: ) ...propaganda tool for mainstream media and politically partisan agendas.
But the bottom line is I intend to learn from this. Moral of the story: Be careful with thread titles,
especially when it concerns the inner workings of the site, for which there is already ample consideration, forethought, and planning- not to mention the excellent technical work that SO and the others do.
...with all due respect, the core issue here has not been clearly addressed yet IMO.
Any chance we could get a clear idea from the administration whether or not ATSNN stories should or should not all have conspiracy angles?
Or shall we just continue to publish major and more obscure news stories as usual, without regard to conspiracy angles? I think that will help us all to understand exactly what we need to be shooting for with ATSNN stories, and to keep in line with what the administration would like to see.
I mean at this point I am still stuck in that "grey" area as to exactly what kind of stories are the most appropriate for ATSNN, and whether they need to contain conspiracy angles or not.
I really am trying my best here to get to the bottom of this matter, because to me- it matters.
Thanks,
TA
Originally posted by soficrow
Some people want ATSNN to be a baby Google/FOX/CNN portal - and to drop the whole conspiracy theme; some want to build on the conspiracy focus. ...But what actually happens just depends on who's around to vote when a story gets posted.
Originally posted by Valhall
Originally posted by soficrow
Some people want ATSNN to be a baby Google/FOX/CNN portal - and to drop the whole conspiracy theme; some want to build on the conspiracy focus.
...But what actually happens just depends on who's around to vote when a story gets posted.
Pretty much letting everybody think for themselves tends to turn out best.
Originally posted by Seekerof
And despite our disagreements on relative issues, soficrow, you are an upstanding, respected, and contributing member within ATS and its diverse community.
Your intentions were well meant, IMHO.
seekerof