Did Osama admit to 9/11 or not?

Well like most people, after 9/11 i agreed with the widely accepted notion that "Osama bin laden" claimed responsibility for the attack. Later, i came to accept that Osama did infact not claim responsibility for 9/11 but just praised it happening, except for of course that mysterious video.

Now here in Australia there is a local sheik (not sure if im spelling that right) who in his local newsletter wrote all about how America was responsible for 9/11 and not Osama bin laden. Now he is currently under heavy investigation for terrorist activity so unfortunately this gives the 'conspiracy theory' a rather bad image.

They were talking about him on the show saying that 'he claims Osama was not responsible despite the fact that Osama bin laden himself admitted to it'.

So my question is, Did Osama Bin Laden Admit to 9/11? Also any links would be great!

There seems to be some really shady-ground here over what is fact and what isn't. I just need this cleared up.
Cheers

"I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation."

www.foxnews.com...

Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks

In a statement issued to the Arabic satellite channel Al Jazeera, based in Qatar, bin Laden said, "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it.

"I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons," bin Laden's statement said.

"I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations," bin Laden said.

archives.cnn.com...


For a detailed analysis of that so called "Confession tape" visit my website
911physics.co.nr...

There have been varying levels of "admitting" over the years:

www.islam-online.net...
www.fas.org...
www.islam-online.net...
www.cbsnews.com...
english.aljazeera.net...

OBL is the quintessential bogeyman, to be used any time xenophobia and misdirection of the root cause of the problem are worthwhile objectives for the current administration.

Otherwise, the most finely tuned intelligence and military machinery on the planet would have weeded him out under the direction of the Commander In Chief, and he would have been brought to justice "dead or alive" in the past four years. How could the most expensive "posse" of all time not have got its man? Two years ago, Bush was already saying he was not thinking much about the black sheep of the family he has such friendly relations with in Saudi Arabia.

I am not the only person who saw the irony of the Bush administration's claims that it would weed out the people responsible for 9/11, as the bodies of the named perpetrators were in cinders in various buildings and fields across a number of states... with certain of their passports found conveniently intact at Ground Zero.

Osama bin Laden's claims of responsibility or non-responsiility are not nearly as significant as the Bush administration's level of performance in carrying out its stated objectives of bringing enemies to justice.

[edit on 14-9-2005 by MaskedAvatar]

terrorists always claim responsibility. there is no point in commiting acts of terror if the terrorised are unaware of the behaviour modification they are trying to cause.
bin laden denied it. that's the end of the story. he would have claimed responsibility outright if it was indeed he who caused it.
the guy in the video is obviously not bin laden. fat, wide nose in video, binladen's nose is thin and straight. the audio tape was denied by his own mother to have been him.

good question. bad (but true) answer.

Yes.

G. and McLuhan would agree! (?)

Mass hypnosis. Watch the little video, now.

Originally posted by billybob
terrorists always claim responsibility. there is no point in commiting acts of terror if the terrorised are unaware of the behaviour modification they are trying to cause.
bin laden denied it. that's the end of the story. he would have claimed responsibility outright if it was indeed he who caused it.
the guy in the video is obviously not bin laden. fat, wide nose in video, binladen's nose is thin and straight. the audio tape was denied by his own mother to have been him.

good question. bad (but true) answer.

exactly.

/closethread

Originally posted by billybob
terrorists always claim responsibility. there is no point in commiting acts of terror if the terrorised are unaware of the behaviour modification they are trying to cause.

Exactly. Why make a statement if no one knows who you are or what you're trying to say? That doesn't make sense.

bin laden denied it. that's the end of the story. he would have claimed responsibility outright if it was indeed he who caused it.
the guy in the video is obviously not bin laden. fat, wide nose in video, binladen's nose is thin and straight. the audio tape was denied by his own mother to have been him.

I recall him denying it too. And I've seen the photos of "bin Laden." They're just trying to pin it on him, is all. And a lot of innocent Muslims are paying for it. While I'm not for Islam, that's no reason to go around accusing innocent people.

I agree that Bid Laden did not do it, and I have really wondered if he is still alive. No one, especially someone in questionable health could have remained at large this long. Bush doesn't think about him much anymore anyway, doesn't need him to keep the fecal matter agitated, and besides its "hard work" for him to think about anything at all.

Originally posted by white4life420

exactly.

/closethread

Ok ..can I ask why you wish the thread closed after you have had your say? Why should the thread be closed? Haven't others got the right to speak out? Or do you want it closed to stop them speaking out and disagreeing with your point of view?


Anyhows to answer the posters questions.

A well known fact about Osama... he will not lie outright.. my blog has an entry on this subject blogs.abovetopsecret.com...

so when he directly on videotape says he didn't do it, he didn't..when he says he wasn't behind the bombings in any way, he wasn't

there is a few times he has on tape been political and washed around the subject of responsibility but if he says he wasn't then he wasn't..

Bin Laden was brought up with good manners. He matured as extremely humble and very generous person. He insists to join his comrades in every act. Very frequently he cooks for them and serves them. He lives a simple life in a small flat in Jeddah or in a shed in Afghanistan and insists on his family to eat simple and to dress simple.
He is known to be strictly truthful and would never lie, but he is politically conscious and believes there is a room for political maneuver even if you are devoted person. Despite being shy he has dominating personality. He speaks very little and looks serious most of the time. He would appear with a soft smile but he seldom laughs. His followers see a lot of aura on him and show great voluntary respect to him. For some reason that falls short of a proper charisma. He is not known for giving distinguished speeches, and there is almost no audio or video recordings of him.

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Hey guess what, the FBI doesnt think Osama had anything to do with 9/11!
www.fbi.gov...

And if Osama is America's #1 enemey, why didn't they get him when he met with a CIA agent in July 2001 at an American hospital in Dubai; or when he was at a Pakistani hospital september 10th thru the 12th of 2001?

Also, it's a fact Osama was funded and trained along with al Qaeda by the CIA, in upwards of $1 billion in the 80's.

Even top experts have very high doubts about a lot of the post 9/11 Osama tapes. Isnt it a coincidence that Osama's last tape surfaces the night before the election, telling people not to vote for Bush. Wellll...how conveinent!

The #3 CIA guy Buzzy Kronkard said what many in the white house say: It's better to have Osama out and free. I suspect because Osama may spill all the dirty secrets he know son the US, show he may have no had anything to do with 9/11, and the fact that Superman needs his Lex Luthor out there, real or imaginary.

AL Qaeda is a real dangerous group, committing terrorist acts today...this is true. But who trained, funded and gave birth to them?

Is there even such a group as al-Qaeda? Or is that just more smoke and mirrors--a Goldstein group?

Yesterday, commies, today, al-Qaeda.

Originally posted by Amethyst
Is there even such a group as al-Qaeda? Or is that just more smoke and mirrors--a Goldstein group?

Yesterday, commies, today, al-Qaeda.

I wonder the same thing. If I had to guess, I'd say al Qaeda exists in that some of the people exist, but a lot of the things that are blamed on it, like the '93 bombings and 9/11 and the Madrid Bombings, etc., and people like Zarqawi, are just propoganda that's pinned on them for political reasons.

Originally posted by Mayet
Ok ..can I ask why you wish the thread closed after you have had your say? Why should the thread be closed? Haven't others got the right to speak out? Or do you want it closed to stop them speaking out and disagreeing with your point of view?
[edit on 14-9-2005 by Mayet]

I never made a point. I was just agreeing that it does appear that he wasn't involved. He has no motive to deny the attacks unless he wasn't involved, in fact, it would only hurt his cause.

The close thread was more sarcasm than anything else. My way of saying "end of story".

Thanks for your replies everyone! and thank you for all the links, i have read them all.

I just think there is alot of disinformation around regarding this, especially from the mainstream media (at least here in australia).

As for where Al-Quaeda comes from ("The Base") i did hear it was the name of a Russian Secret-Service operation, like 'Operation Al-Quaeda" or something like that?

I heard that "al-qaeda" was actually Arabic slang for "the toilet."

And how many top people does "al-Qaeda" have anyway?

Like he'd be a credible source..... So he's so credible that if he claimed doing it, it would be cast in cement. On the other hand if he claimed he didnt do it, he's just lying thru his teeth. Was he even alive to enjoy the fruits of his so called labors?

Who knows...who knows... The Bogeyman...I wish i could talk to him tet a tet...

What we're saying is, if bin Laden was responsible and wanted to make a statement, why would he suddenly say he didn't do it?

Usually when people want to make political statements they'll own up to it. At least you'd think they would.

He didnt take responsibility because he didnt do it. Thats not to say he wasnt glad, happy or dancing in the streets...I wonder how those cave parties are anyways? Must be a hoot.

Originally posted by Amethyst
What we're saying is, if bin Laden was responsible and wanted to make a statement, why would he suddenly say he didn't do it?

Usually when people want to make political statements they'll own up to it. At least you'd think they would.

Yup.. that is the whole idea behind terrorism.. promoting 'terror'..