Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan goes to help Katrina victims

Whether one agree with Moore or Sheehan politically or not the facts are what they are in the relief effort in the Katrina path of destruction and it is sad to see the truth is much worse than many of us thought. My SIL lives in Biloxi and told me that she drove her daughter to check on someone and saw three bodies in that short ride.

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I was told time and time again today by hurricane survivors that we were the first relief that any of these people have seen yet. 14 days after the hurricane and still no aid brought to them from anyone except for some Veterans for Peace.

Thanks for posting this. This is the only way to send money and make sure it all goes to the Katrina victims in my opinion. I don't trust Red Cross or any of the 'charities' to get all the money I send to the people who need it. I don't want to pay someone's salary.

I feel safe to send packages of goods to Salvation Army because at least I know someone needy will get it, but I trust the CS/MM partnership even more.

I really respect both Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore. I absolutely don't agree with everything either of them say or do, but for the most part, I do agree with them. They both are strong individuals who are willing to stand up for what they believe in, even in the face of overwhelming criticism, and I admire that.

It's a nice gesture for them to go down to help out. Hopefully they'll use some of their influence to raise some money from supporters. But I will be extremely angry if they dare turn this political. This is one of those events were politics will do us no good. I don't want to see liberal bashing or conservative bashing. I just want to see the job getting done.

The other day I was watching the news and the annoucer said ...

"And next we'll find out what Cindy Sheehan thinks about the Katrina disaster..."

WHAT???

Who the hell cares what she thinks about the Katrina Disaster.

Ok I get it, shes just trying to help but seriously folks. This woman is becoming a celebrity and it makes me sick.

As far as donating to their relief funds... I say no way. Dont send money, go buy bottled water and send it to the Salvation Army if you want to help.

At least they are helping, which is good. The same was true for Sean Penn, although the right wing was all over his case instantly when he criticized Bush. I would applaud any well-known conservatives who were helping, as well, and I'm sure some are. In any case, it doesn't seem like Mr. Moore or Ms. Sheehan are "turning this political"---the lack of competent response from TeamBush is what made this situation political, not the presence of Moore and Sheehan.
---Ryan

Originally posted by cyberdude78
This is one of those events were politics will do us no good. I don't want to see liberal bashing or conservative bashing. I just want to see the job getting done.

Hear! Hear! There is no place for politics in this (I would be disappointed, but not too surprised, unfortunately) and I'm realizing more and more how the 2-party, us-against-them system is really bringing this country down. We're all caught up in bashing and hating each other and in the meatime, the government's having their way with us. :shk:

Originally posted by noise
This woman is becoming a celebrity and it makes me sick.

Yeah, well, people become celebrities everyday. I don't see the draw around Lindsay Lohan, either, but she sure is a celebrity. Doesn't exactly 'make me sick', though.

DO NOT BE FOOLED

Moore is there to stir the pot. I have no doubt another Bush-bash movie is in the works.

Michael Moore is clearly whitewashing the truth, he ignores many important facts in his movie F9/11 and in his books. I bet there's much more to this than only BushCo and the Saudis.
As for Sheehan, I haven't really followed up on her, but I think she at first was trying to do the right thing, but then she got a taste of what it feels like to be famous, kind of a celebrity, and couldn't let go of it, thus possibly further exploiting her sons death. That's what I think anyway.

Anyway, I wouldn't give my money to Moore or the Red Cross (the Red Cross, among other things, pocketed 50% of the donations to the 9/11 families).
I think I'd rather donate to the Salvation Army or some food bank.

For you yanks:
www.austinfoodbank.org...


My 2 cents.

Originally posted by BostonBill99

I have no doubt another Bush-bash movie is in the works.

Why wouldn't he make another bush-bashing movie F911 won the people's award for best documentory.

The truth of what has happened on the Gulf Coast is clear and speaks for itself, no one has to bash Bush, the Fema response was totally lacking and if you read the entire thread I posted you notice the last paragraph is a qoute from a young man who is there handing out aid, 14 days after the storm some of the people he is handing goods to says he is the first person handing out aid they have seen, now that is pathetic. Is there any excuse for that?

Just two more showboats on the Mississippi...

I heartily endorse the post directly above my own.



I don't care for either of them. Sheehan is pushy, unrealistic, and completely misguided about the cause of her child's death. Moore is a fake, he capitalizes on the theories but fails to resolve them in any meaningful way. He makes money off asking questions, and not even the most difficult ones.

They can both do what they want, I don't care. I can't imagine why anyone would. Celebrity culture has got people all bugaboo.

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djohnsto77 and WyrdeOne at least they are doing something for the victims, what have you done except sit on your arse all day and worship Bill O'Reilly. Moore has raised $500 000 and donated 50 tons of food and water, that is a pretty damn good achievement.

Why do you neo-cons always have to be such horrible people? If president Bush helped these people i would congratulate him without hesitation, but he didn't so i won't. I do give him props for eventually taking the blame like a man instead of hiding behind Rove like a pitchka.

Originally posted by NinjaCodeMonkey
Moore has raised $500 000 and donated 50 tons of food and water, that is a pretty damn good achievement.

Wow, I hadn't read that! Good for him! I really hope they make an impact down there and it sounds like they are. It's really great when people use their celebrity for such a good cause. From what I've read, their number one concern is getting the goods to the people. I salute them, regardless of their politics. Or mine...

djohnsto77 and WyrdeOne at least they are doing something for the victims, what have you done except sit on your arse all day and worship Bill O'Reilly.

I donated two lamps damnit, nice brass ones, huge frickin' lamps. They weren't even technically mine, but I donated them anyway, so get tossed. Bill O'Reilley is a flaming boil, and I can't imagine why you two don't get along better.

Moore has raised $500 000 and donated 50 tons of food and water, that is a pretty damn good achievement.

I'm sure it's a wonderful achievement. Seeing as they're in a position to help in this manner, I hope it made them happy to do so. The deduction probably won't hurt either. Doesn't change my opinion in the slightest, I don't like his movies and I don't like her antics. So sue me.

Why do you neo-cons always have to be such horrible people?

I have no political affiliation, your trollness. Take the stereotypes out back and bury them. I have the decency to speak to people as individuals; a talent I would surely bestow upon you if that were at all possible.

If president Bush helped these people i would congratulate him without hesitation, but he didn't so i won't.

I thought this thread was about Michael "Peach Fuzz" Moore, and Sheehan? Why are you injecting Bush into it? Do you, like, bring your habitat with you and slop it around wherever you land so as to feel at home? I voiced a distaste for two individuals, and you start slathering on the stereotypes and insults. Try showing some respect for the individuality of others. Guess what, some people on this planet can dislike both the POTUS and the FATASS.

Your staunch defense of the Us Vs. Them mentality is useless and archaic.

I do give him props for eventually taking the blame like a man instead of hiding behind Rove like a pitchka.

Political nuggets in a white-wine and vomit sauce.

Wine great idea believe I will have some. Getting tipsy is good for old ladies or so the drs. tell me. Hiccup

I feel good knowing that important people like Moore and Sheehan are going there to help out. They both have sacrificed and dedicated a portion of their lives to move America forward.

However, why did they act so late? Why act now to help? Is it that they don't like black people? Bush acted quicker than they did and Bush is criticized for being a racist. Do Moore and Sheehan have racial immunity to this because they're liberals? I don't get the hypocracy of this.

One of the other reasons I dislike Moore and Sheehan, they're polarizing forces. People can't talk about these idiots without the conversation degenerating into political trolling and stereotype wars.

It's all pure nonsense.

Caesar saw that the mob was restless, so he gave them games to amuse themselves.

Originally posted by NinjaCodeMonkey

Why do you neo-cons always have to be such horrible people?

Neo-Con sounds cool! Thanks, i think i'll make my license plate read it.

Neo-Cons ARE horrible people. They want to make unfortunate people get their lives in order so that they can decide for themselves. Hopefully one day start their own business and lower their taxes so they can afford to do so.

The Liberals are the saints however. They want to keep reminding these poor people that they suck and that they should stay poor and get free hand outs from a HUGE government. Conditioning them to stay poor for generations to come. They have no hope, might as well vote for Democrats. At least this way your life will be filled pointlessness and free food & money till the day you die.

Originally posted by Faust
I feel good knowing that important people like Moore and Sheehan are going there to help out. They both have sacrificed and dedicated a portion of their lives to move America forward.

However, why did they act so late? Why act now to help? Is it that they don't like black people? Bush acted quicker than they did and Bush is criticized for being a racist. Do Moore and Sheehan have racial immunity to this because they're liberals? I don't get the hypocracy of this.

Well heres the difference Bush is the man responsible for hiring FEMA director, someone who is not qualified for such an important position not only that but the top three FEMA people were all political appointees with no experience in disaster management, now think about this the President appoints people that are supposed to handle any disasters anywhere in the USA and they have no experience.

Bush is the leader of our country, a government official who works for you supposedly, get paid by we the people, so it is not unreasonable to expect him to make an appearance at these disasters. Moore and Sheehan are private citizens, they do not hold a government office, they are not getting paid to serve you or their country.