Nagin and Blanco need to resign immediately!

Mayor Ray Nagin, your lack of leadership in the time leading up to New Orleans disaster calls for your immediate resignation. Louisiana's own disaster plan calls for government vehicles, and buses to be used to aid in mandatory evacuations. This did not happen. You did nothing, then you blamed the State and Federal government. You sir, are no Rudy Guiliani.

Governor Kathleen Blanco, you are an embarrassment to the State of Louisiana. Your lack of leadership in a crisis is pathetic. You did not order a mandatory evacuation until the Bush administration urged you to do so. Your action immediately after the destruction shows you are not a leader. For your lack of action and leadership, you too should resign immediately.

Nagin and Blanco, both threw up their hands and did nothing, but expected the Federal Government to be there the next day.

I am living in Louisiana and I am embarrassed for the leaders of my state.

You forgot the head of FEMA and the President of the United States of America, Mr. George Bush.

You forgot to read my post.

You can't not do your job and blame someone who is doing theirs.

Ever heard of a Chain of Command.

Mayor...did nothing
Governor...did nothing
FEMA and Bush...they should be there the next day? Give me a break.

In contrast to the governor of LA - who struck me as not having the brains or the care to do anything but place the blame on others, I watched Nagin do quite a lot. Too many threads on here to rehash the whole evacuation plan again.

Ever hear of the term 'Leader of the Nation? Ever hear of the term Emergency Contingency plan?

While you are appropriating blame - where was Bush? I'll give you a little clue, there is a picture of him somewhere strumming a guitar and playing golf.

There is a very good thread which compiles quotes and figures from the disaster. It is too easy to place the blame on one or two people, when this was a complete and utter screw up all the way around.

Do you think you could handle it better? Try learning your city is about to be wiped from the map in three days and then coordinate the evacuation of 250,000 people without cars or transport as well as making sure the one million who are on the roads get out safely.

Did it occur to you that the people who are qualified and legal to drive the School buses would not?

Leadership eh? As far as I know Mr Nagin was the only politician to stay inside New Orleans in its time of crisis. He was prepared to go down with his ship and that is admirable in my eyes.

For a "Mandatory evacuation" you must --by law-- provide shelter for those you evacuate. There is no adequate shelter within the Mayors jurisdiction.

As for Rudy Giuliani I doubt it. He is not a white, male from New York who would be happy to hold a press conference over the opening of a door. He is also not an adultering mafioso who ruthlessly put down crime by sheltering the police.

Oh, and Michael Bloombergs big re-election secret is reminding people that he is not Mr Giuliani.

Who do you suggest replace them? The LT Governor? Deputy Mayor? Should the Federal government appoint an interim? Should city the council and state legislature holding a meeting?

Ok, let's say they resigned right this second. Now what? Now who is in charge?

There is a chain of command, yes the Lt. Governor would take over as governor the same thing would happen for the mayor.

Would the leadership be any better? Highly unlikely. Louisiana has no real leadership. But during the next major elections people might wake up and choose more qualified leaders.

wow...............from the outside looking in..........i thought that NAGIN did a very admirable job but BLANCO on the other hand looked to be totally incapicated by the overwhelming crisis. if it weren't for the mouthpiece that stood over her left shoulder every time she made a speech i'm not sure she could have gotten her words out.


but again..........i'm outside looking in.

unfortunately it appears that NO will be a great learning lesson for the entire country...............everything failed...........the evac plans were not prepped for this magnitude of a disaster.........FEMA sucked.........and our response was very slowwwwww.

its embarassing.

but again..........i'm outside looking in..............and NAGIN seemed to do a decent job...........he never left his city........and was there/is there through the entire disaster.

angie

Originally posted by amb1063
wow...............from the outside looking in..........i thought that NAGIN did a very admirable job but BLANCO on the other hand looked to be totally incapicated by the overwhelming crisis. .

Both were horrible. Nagin was by far the worst of the two 9Plenty of blame to go around though). Why didn't he use the NOLA schoolbusses for evacuation of the poor areas? He has put on quite a PR campaign in an attempt to try to focus attention away from that very fact.

But in all honesty, the performance of the command structure from top to bottom is disgusting

Originally posted by FredT

Originally posted by amb1063
wow...............from the outside looking in..........i thought that NAGIN did a very admirable job but BLANCO on the other hand looked to be totally incapicated by the overwhelming crisis. .

Both were horrible. Nagin was by far the worst of the two 9Plenty of blame to go around though). Why didn't he use the NOLA schoolbusses for evacuation of the poor areas? He has put on quite a PR campaign in an attempt to try to focus attention away from that very fact.

But in all honesty, the performance of the command structure from top to bottom is disgusting

good point fred. i think he should have done better.........that is a terrible thing to have missed. sorry bout that.

you are correct. as i said i'm outsider looking in and i agree 1000% with you in that WAS a terribly grevious error that he committed.

angie



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[edit on 5-9-2005 by amb1063]

I posted this in another thread but seems appropiate here as well:

"If the NOLA plan all along was to use the Superdome as a shelter against a disaster like this, then why on earth, somebody tell me, was there not a 10 day store of food, water, medicines and the basic necessities for life warehoused near the 'Dome, above maximum flood level if the levees broke? Or even if the levees didnt break?? This is local NOLA Fema, local and state govt. responsibility for the most part. They dropped the ball by not preparing for what has been said for decades was an eventuality. The "It's not going to happen on my watch, in my political term" mentality is what has killed all of those people down there. Absolutely mind numbing to me is the lack of preemptive action on the local and state levels."

Originally posted by Carseller4
Mayor Ray Nagin, your lack of leadership in the time leading up to New Orleans disaster calls for your immediate resignation. Louisiana's own disaster plan calls for government vehicles, and buses to be used to aid in mandatory evacuations. This did not happen. You did nothing, then you blamed the State and Federal government. You sir, are no Rudy Guiliani.

Governor Kathleen Blanco, you are an embarrassment to the State of Louisiana. Your lack of leadership in a crisis is pathetic. You did not order a mandatory evacuation until the Bush administration urged you to do so. Your action immediately after the destruction shows you are not a leader. For your lack of action and leadership, you too should resign immediately.

Nagin and Blanco, both threw up their hands and did nothing, but expected the Federal Government to be there the next day.

I am living in Louisiana and I am embarrassed for the leaders of my state.

www.dhs.gov...


Preparing America

In the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or other large-scale emergency, the Department of Homeland Security will assume primary responsibility on March 1st for ensuring that emergency response professionals are prepared for any situation. This will entail providing a coordinated, comprehensive federal response to any large-scale crisis and mounting a swift and effective recovery effort. The new Department will also prioritize the important issue of citizen preparedness. Educating America's families on how best to prepare their homes for a disaster and tips for citizens on how to respond in a crisis will be given special attention at DHS.

Additional Resources

The National Response Plan establishes a comprehensive all-hazards approach to enhance the ability of the United States to manage domestic incidents.


Homeland security knew before the Hurrican hit, that this was going to be a CAT-5. And still they didn't send in the National Gaurd, FEMA, FOOD, MEDICAL supplies etc. I know Republicans and Bush lack any accountability for anything, but this time the world, and most of the countries citizens are holding him accountable not NAGIN . You can't compare 911 to this crisis. This is 10 times worst. 1 million people are now homeless, 10,000 feard dead, and a city is completely destroyed, not just 3 buildings.

have u ever tried to drive a school bus? are u a licensed bus driver? if u were would u risk gettin caught ina category 4 hurricane rushing your way? what happens if the busses didnt get there fast enough and mid loading people on the hurricane kicked into full force. now u have people on busses and outside with nowhere to go in a very dangerous environment.

that would have been alot worse. do remember that this hurricane was only a category one 72 hours or so before. it built up at an alarming rate and simply they could not have gotten everyone out if they wanted to and were organized. all the roads leaving this place were packed if u watched new the day before katrina. it was dead moving traffic for alot of time.

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Mayor Ray Nagin is the only political hero in this mess. He pleaded with people to evacuate. Is he supposed to go house to house making people go at gunpoint? He helped set up the Superdome and Convention center for people who could not evacuate the city entirely due to transportation issues. The school bus drivers had their own families to evacuate. Does the school bus driver status make you a slave of the city, state, and government?

Ray Nagin stayed in New Orleans with his people. He pleaded with FEMA and the US government for help. He does not have the power to control the National Guard, the military, or the Red Cross. Is it his fault that FEMA did not find out about the Convention Center until Thursday when all someone in FEMA had to do was turn on CNN? Is it Ray Nagin's fault that George W. Bush was too busy vacationing to order relief efforts? Is it Ray Nagin's fault that Bush did not address the American public until 4 days after the storm?

Ray Nagin is the only politician with enough balls to challenge the US government. He appears to be the only politician that cares enough to take a stand. The CIA will probably make him disappear when he should be commended for his bravery and dedication.

The people that bash him refuse to look at the facts. The people that bash him think a mayor has more power than reality. The people that bash him are blind supporters of Bush. The people that bash him if faced with the situation would bash Bush too.

Originally posted by GTWill
Mayor Ray Nagin is the only political hero in this mess. He pleaded with people to evacuate. Is he supposed to go house to house making people go at gunpoint? He helped set up the Superdome and Convention center for people who could not evacuate the city entirely due to transportation issues. The school bus drivers had their own families to evacuate. Does the school bus driver status make you a slave of the city, state, and government?

Ray Nagin stayed in New Orleans with his people. He pleaded with FEMA and the US government for help. He does not have the power to control the National Guard, the military, or the Red Cross. Is it his fault that FEMA did not find out about the Convention Center until Thursday when all someone in FEMA had to do was turn on CNN? Is it Ray Nagin's fault that George W. Bush was too busy vacationing to order relief efforts? Is it Ray Nagin's fault that Bush did not address the American public until 4 days after the storm?

Ray Nagin is the only politician with enough balls to challenge the US government. He appears to be the only politician that cares enough to take a stand. The CIA will probably make him disappear when he should be commended for his bravery and dedication.

The people that bash him refuse to look at the facts. The people that bash him think a mayor has more power than reality. The people that bash him are blind supporters of Bush. The people that bash him if faced with the situation would bash Bush too.

Excellnet post. The President has been exposed for how inept he really is. The only defense for the Right is to blame the powerless Mayor.

What did Nagin do? Sure he stayed in the city, and he gave an interview where he cussed the President and everyone else above him. Then he cried.

When it came to doing the one thing under his control that could have made a big difference in this crisis, he failed. He didn't get the busses rolling.

And his tough guy attitude did a 180 when Bush came down to talk to him. Tears changed to smiles because of the unexpected photo-op.

Then after Bush left town, what did he do next? He comes up with a cok-a-mamie story that the CIA is going to put a hit on him.

Talking tough and potty mouth in a radio station when your target is 1100 miles away is easy. It's much harder to do when the guy is across the table from you.

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I will put the blame on the Governor to begin with and then start from there, also the FEMA director and Home land Security secretary, they all need to resign, because FEMA fall now under the HLS.

We need a big investigation on why things happen the way it did, I do not put the blame on Bush directly, but I do blame the federal government.

A. governer takes blame for slow actions, 48 hours after hurricane out is not soon enough

B. bush and that part of government take blame. hes head of the country. his job is to oversee things get done. and they werent gettin done so he wasnt doin his job to the best of his ability(which i might add obviously is very much ability)

C. i put the most blame on FEMA, the entire FEMA just everyone that made a decision should be replaced. FEMA has seen there downfall just this week and if they dont then there are serious problems other then the hurricane aftermath

D. i will say again he didnt have as many options as u make him out to have. if u watched the news BEFORE katrina the roads outa the city were packed no less then a day before, he had no bus drivers to drive the busses, he could try to round up people and get them on busses and out. but that faces the risk that the storm could move in faster then expected then 1000's of people are outside in the storm instead of sumwhat safe inside. i think he made the best choice by having those that couldnt get out stay inside. they had a better chance of survival....till of course we found FEMA is tryin to sabotage survivors basically. then they were screwed.

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fema and homeland security(bushy, that) are responsible.
and HAARP.
and the NWO depopulation/chaos/policestatelockdown agenda.
the mayor asked for help. they said it was coming. it never came. the mayor asked for powers and martial law and troops right away. it came when people were already eating each other. nice. i cried, too. it IS sad, isn't it?
what DID homeland security do? they blocked dangerous aid from other countries. very helpful.
what did fema do? exposed their leader as a completely unqualified disaster relief planner who spent $500, 000 a day on .....????? a horse breader with NO experience in disaster relief. EXCELLENT resume. let's not blame FEMA, though. it was the mayor's(who was given the runaround by the fed while people were drowning in droves by the minute, ....nice) fault.
bush is a dickhead. he kept cutting the funding for the levvies since 2001, diverting the money into iraq. the administration is LITERALLY getting insanely wealthy as a direct result of the war on terror. they are stockholders in the military/industrial complex. cheney/haliburton, (cleanup in aisle the big easy), rumsfeld/DUCT tape(you NEED IT RIGHT NOW!), bush/oil(get along little doogies). this stuff is supposed to be seperate, because when it's not, it's FASCISM. just admit it. the bush administration is fascist. mcfly? how many more TENS OF THOUSANDS or HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people must be sacrificed to the stone owl before you all realise it's true, and not some wild eyed conspiracy 'theory'?
you'll need a hurricane of spin to hide the trail of blame on this one, all you batters for evil.

the mayor predicted a literal assassination. it looks like 'they' will try a political/character one first.
thanks for helping, all the usual suspects.

[edit on 5-9-2005 by billybob]

Everyone, from those who chose to stay, all the way up to POTUS were ill prepared for this disaster. People are still refusing to leave NOLA. As hard as it is for most of us to comprehend 90,000 square miles of devastaion, how do you think those in charge felt. The higher up the chain of command you go, the larger the area of responsibility.

I moved from Slidell, LA to Corpus Christi, TX in January. I am well aware of what was and is going on in that area. I have written many post about this storm and am tired of repeating myself.