Ahh, its all about Israel

Is not the talmud and the midrashes different from the torah? Isn't a midrash a commentary on religion, rather than a holy text itself?

This nazi site seems to have a slightly different interpretation of the line:

13. "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." - Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L

Is this the type of source you are getting your translations from? That site also notes that
" The Talmud are considered the "holiest of all holy books" to the Jew. "
But this is not true, the talmud is a collection of theological thinking that was primarily created while the jews were in exile, slaves in babylon. The torah is far more important to judaism, being the 'word of god', rather than the talmud, which is recognized to be written by men.

Indeed, most of the sites that reference this line and try to present it as having binding torah like status, as a thing which all jews are compelled to obey, are nazi sites. This passage gets cited in the fake 'protocols of the elders of zion', its pushed by racists and skinheads and hitlerites. Thats the fount of your information? Hateful Propaganda??

for starters I said from the begining i DONT CONDONE Murdering innocent civilians.
hitlers as much of a MAD MAN as he was, must of had SOME SORT of theory behind what he was doing.

If he wrote it in a book you find offensive, then thats your opinion.
I definately dont go around chanting NAZISM to the world.
And shame on your for accusing people of such things.

Just because u dare not read a book to understand a bit better the reasons the world is today doesnt mean a thing to me.
You must be scared.

If I want to read this book on a rainy wknd that has nothing to do with you accusing me of advocation NAZISM.
GROWUP!

I see its a slow week on the stormfarter site.

Is it the thought of killing millions that turns you on the most or is it just the picture of strong blond men in leather?

Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
And shame on your for accusing people of such things.

Shame on you for suggesting that there was something in mein kampf that would provide a blueprint for dealing with world jerwery.

Also, all i said was "Do you normally advocate the reading of nazi propaganda?"
Well, do you? Or was this instance the exception to the rule?

You must be scared.

GROWUP!

Je refuse!



Aww, don't cry.

You guys like twisting words dont you?
sorry if reading some books about history is too difficult for you to understand...

Just because someone is curious as to why the largest extermination took place doesnt mean he's 'turned on' by it.

Your own insecurities dont need to be taunted at other people.

Bet u guys cant even count to ten.

" The Talmud are considered the "holiest of all holy books" to the Jew. "
But this is not true, the talmud is a collection of theological thinking that was primarily created while the jews were in exile, slaves in babylon. The torah is far more important to judaism, being the 'word of god', rather than the talmud, which is recognized to be written by men.


This is not true. there are many verses in the talmud that state that the talmud represents the oral traditions of the ancient code and are FAR more binding than the torah

there is one verse in specific that states that God Himself in heaven stands up when he reads the talmud, such is the respect he has for it

i recomend you read "the talmud unmasked"

"the talmud unmasked" contains nothing but quotes from the talmud. can it be considered an anti semitic work?

consider the following:

Sanhedrin 55b .
— R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his.

Translation:
A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
You guys like twisting words dont you?
sorry if reading some books about history is too difficult for you to understand...

I read quite a few history books and am reading one right now on Japan. Try picking up one that DOESNT have a swastika on it every now and then for a bit more "balance"

Just because someone is curious as to why the largest extermination took place doesnt mean he's 'turned on' by it.

Even in your BS a little truth slips in. I see you used the word "extermination" not mass murder. You extermanate rats and roaches you murder people. But that is the word most of the racist goosestepers use and I guess it just slipped by you in your attempt to "fit in".

Your own insecurities dont need to be taunted at other people.

Bet u guys cant even count to ten.

Dont cry, remember Hitler doesnt love a crybaby

Amuk, obviously your an idiot.

If you want to accuse me of being a nazi, or agreeing with the ' etermination ' of jew's then you obviously are a larger than previously thoguht idiot.

And I was told never to argue with an idiot.
They wil bring u to their level, then beat u with experience.

So carry on dear fello.
I dont honestly give a to55



I dont agree with what hitler did.
60yrs ago his generals found it nessecary to wipe out jews..
I want to know why...
I also want to know why the poor american public... well the gullable ones atleast are still bellieving this crap about Iraq,
still falling for the clues about nuclear weapons in the usa..

still following the carrot of terrorism in the USA set by your government.

I pitty you who still trust george bush, because i feel you'll be the first ones at the front line when u following his carrot all the war to a war that isnt justified.

Imagine in 60yrs when ppl are remember the current war..
they'll stand around and say it was ll for nothing.
why couldnt those people use there heads and see the truth about her leader, it was just so obvious..

It seems to me that with all the Israeli's in the hot seat for our government, we are no longer following the lies of the government, but we are chasing the dreams of the isreali's..

They want to be the sole power in the middeleast , to do this they know they need to wipe out there competitors..
they also know they need the strongest military in the world to achieve this,

THUS WHY they stuck there eagle like claws into the American government.
They american governemnt that just looooooovvvvveeessss money coming in the backdoor...

Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
Amuk, obviously your an idiot.

Your mother wears (Israeli) army boots

.
60yrs ago his generals found it nessecary to wipe out jews..
I want to know why...

maybe because your boy-loving heros were a bunch of mass-murdering scumbags?

I also want to know why the poor american public... well the gullable ones

like the ones who wonder why the mean old jews forced poor old Hitler into "exterminating" them?

I pitty you who still trust george bush,

I think he is a liar and a crook myself




[edit on 21-7-2005 by Amuk]

yuo can say what u like.
because i know the reasons im asking these questions.
and it has nothing to do with following in hitlers footsteps.

Just because I want to know why bush has caused the murder of many many innocent arabs, doesnt mean i condone it.

Just because i want to know why hitler casued the murder of many many innocent JEWS, doesnt mean i condone it.

Would you like me to draw it in crayons for you?
or is it still too difficult to understand?

Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
You guys like twisting words dont you?

There's really nothing to twist. You suggested that Mein Kampf would be a good read to find out the justifications for the destruction of the jews. And you did this in the context of a thread in which you cite Isreal and the Zionists as some pretty evil bastards.

Bet u guys cant even count to ten.

123456789* Ha, there me did it!

60yrs ago his generals found it nessecary to wipe out jews..
I want to know why...

Because they were ignorant, bigoted, racist, small minded #nuts. What else could be the explanation? They hated the 'dirty jews'. They used any number of things to justify it.

why couldnt those people use there heads and see the truth about her leader, it was just so obvious

The nazi war and the holocaust were two seperate events. The german peoples had been oppressed by the victory conditions of the previous war. Then the global economy went into a tailspin. Then the weimar government made things worse by figuring that money can be made simply by printing it. Meanwhile the victorious allies were 'running rampant' across the world (just like people are saying about america today) and the Soviets were amassing a gigantic army with which to invade europe while the germans could arm themselves even for purposes of defense according to treaty.. Internally, entire cities, like Munich, were taken over by communist revolutionaries, and the central government still did nothing, army vets were completely neglected and left the the ravages of the new economy, and the very idea of 'germaness' was being white washed away in a tide of abstractionism and new-age thinking. And on top of all that they had to publically admit to the world that they were the aggressor and carrier of war guilt, that they were the bad guys, and that they deserved it all?
The german people were smarter than that. They saw that they either had to re-arm and assert their political soverignty on the international stage by engaging in international politics. And international politics are power politics. So they were waiting for leadership, they failed to get it outside of Hitler and the social welfare national programme nazis.
This is the opposite of whats going on with america. The United States isn't stupid enough to leave its security up to other countries, or to not protect itself because others are blind to the threat, like the british were blind to the soviet threat and the german threat.
The germans accepted the nazis and their war plan because they had already failed to prepare themselves and to be involved in the world around them, the situation is completely different with respect to the US.

THUS WHY they stuck there eagle like claws into the American government.
They american governemnt that just looooooovvvvveeessss money coming in the backdoor...

And again with the nazi-like paranoia over the jews! "THe jews are the reason we lost the war, they're the reason it happened in the first place, they with their money and in collusion with the capitalists and international bankers engineered the situation by which germany was forced into a war that its people didn't want and their treachery and selfish intersts are the reason why the war was lost"

Maybe you should try reading some history books before 'squarely placing the blame' on the 'claw handed money filthy jews'.

ashlar
there are many verses in the talmud that state that the talmud represents the oral traditions of the ancient code and are FAR more binding than the torah

Well, I won't pretend to be an expert on judaism, but I'm having a hard time beleiveing that the jews think that a collection of religious commentary is more binding than the literal word of god. Its intersting to see that lots of them think that the talmud harkens back to really ancient traditions, but still, its recognized to be composed by men. Holy men, wise men, men inspired by god perhaps, but still not the same as the torah.

A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

And just how often does this happen in judaism? I mean, if the talmud is so important, then why don't jews marry three year olds? Could it be because they aren't bound by the talmud?

Alright, the Jews hold special DNA that could help all humanity break free from their bonds if only the Jews didn't follow a false god and false teachings. Those that hold humanity in slavery want to get rid of the Semitic genes before humans progress to the next level.

WWII was a trial run. Hitler walked with the 'devil'. And the 'devil', of course, is Yahweh. These entities have also been called many things. But whatever you call them, they brought us the 3 major religions.

Anyway. The next part involves convincing Jews to migrate back to Israel so they can be "taken out" in one shot. Part of the plan was to make the Jews think they are superior to the rest of humanity. This causes ill feelings in people and is part cause to why Hitler chose the path he did. The rest was his occult ties and basically mild posession by dark spirits (aka devil).

Now the "final solution" is supposed to come to it's final climax. Watch closely for events and people that do whatever they have to in order to get Jews to migrate back to Israel. They don't know the real reasons as they are still following religions. But they are being led to take these actions.

Personally, I love Jews and every other race. This world would not be the same without the decent Jews. I certainly hope they don't fall for this religious garbage and make their way back to Israel. We need them. We need them to wake up to who they are.

I know the top paragraphs are about as believable as giant basketballs falling from the sky. And I have no proof. So it's probably just a waste of time to write it. But dag nab it, I can't stand to see this deception work. Jews please stay where you are. Don't go back to that desert. Drop your religion and search inside for your truth.

Anyway. My words are basically meaningless in a world of fear, greed and hate. I've said my piece. Peace.

It's all about money and power.

Religion is simply a convenient tool used by corrupt elitists

to set the masses against each other allowing them to grab as much as they can

while we kill each other out of ignorance.

Its sorta like the postww2 stage never finished.
Int he final days it wasnt about who wins or loses..
its about WHO gets what..

Most of the big dogs are jewish.

Israel people belive that there the chosen people of God and the dispart people who are different than them.

Another information a Israelities is that the invade a place by attacking social statues and family with prostution and media .

I just bumped into this , and thought you may enjoy looking at it

www.tomvalentine.com...


btw...are you an ickes fan ?

you'll have to educate me mate..
ickies?

Interesting read for some of you.
Like Mickey from the Life commercials: "try it, you might like it....."

Three news outlets in two days misreported the amount of aid Israel received from the U.S. to help compensate for damage caused by Iraqi missiles during the Gulf War. Each claimed Israel received $3 billion, whereas the country actually received $650 million. Thus far, only one of the outlets has corrected the error.

Three Media Outlets Overstate U.S. aid to Israel; Only One Corrects







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My question is why does the USA have to pay Israel for Iraqi missile strikes?

Is that why Israel was so restrained in their response to incoming Iraqi SCUDS during the Gulf War?

That would make sense.