China attacking Taiwan just a distraction????

i think that im going back to Russia when all ov this is going to happen cuz the U.S doesnt stand a chance against Russia and China... and U.S.A is already falling apart because ov Bush and because ov what hes doing hes just killing his forces to fight other peoples wars in other countries

Originally posted by Seekerof
vor78....

And Russia attacking China while China attacks Taiwan, while fending off the US, Japan, etc., would benefit the Russian's how? Would a Russian attack on China, while China is nailing Taiwan, be seen as an overture of an allaince with the West, specifically the US, Japan, etc., who would be aiding Taiwan against the Chinese aggression?

Personally, Russia would simply set back and follow another military strategem: let two big dogs go at so that they will weaken themselves and thus be susceptable to future aggressions by the other watching big dogs, and lesser ones.





seekerof


I have to agree with this outcome. It would be very wise for Russia to let the other two go at it and all the time, standing on the sidelines just to see who comes out the best. Both nations would be crippled pretty bad and if Russia wanted to, they could just move in and fill the void left over. Makes much sense to this guy.

[edit on 27-6-2005 by Seekerof]

Originally posted by russiankid
i think that im going back to Russia when all ov this is going to happen cuz the U.S doesnt stand a chance against Russia and China... and U.S.A is already falling apart because ov Bush and because ov what hes doing hes just killing his forces to fight other peoples wars in other countries

And how will china and russia sent troops here? and if they do there will be a lot of americans arm to the teeth, it will make iraq like child's play lol, no worries, USA is not going down because of military action, all superpowers fall because it fall from the inside not out side.

the U.S.A will fall and it will be a wasteland if China Russia and N. Korea will attack it there are not a lot ov forces in the U.S it self there are tanks and studf here but eh there are no troops to operate them

Okie dokie....right....gotcha'....

United States males age 18-49: 67,742,879 (2005 est.)

Field Listing - Military manpower - availability

Must have forgotten that nearly 70 million+/- US citizens, not in the military, own guns?

It is quite obvious that the Russians, the Chinese, and the North Koreans have never been to the Bronx, Harlem, sub-parts of Boston, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and other not so nice neighborhoods that could care less for anyone? I am almost of the opinion that some of those neighborhoods and areas would literally kick the crap out of the Chinese, Russian, and North Korean "invading" minions.

Apparently you think that the entire US military is deployed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Europe, Japan, and South Korea.? And that those deployed forces constitute the entirety of the US military, the Reserves, and the National Guard?


Okie dokie x 2.





seekerof

[edit on 2-7-2005 by Seekerof]

The Chinese & Russians don't need to invade to eliminate the threat they are concerned about - that resides almost entirely "within the beltway", the military and political centers of gravity from which the strategy of "global dominance" emanates. A general attack on the US, witrh it's huge economy, benefits no-one.

They could even stage manage it as a "terrorist attack" to avoid retaliation - as it is now, we might retaliate against NK, Iran, etc... we might not suspect it was coming from China +/or Russia at all.

I don't know why people were talking about a china-taiwan conflict turning into a war with russia... from what I know china is what keeps the russian arms industry from vaporizing off the face of this planet... and doesn't the chinese have the largest airforce in the world? alotta Migs from what I undestand... I feel the next WW will be the result of tensions caused by trade and other forms of influence exerted on other key asian players such as S.Korea and Japan by both the Chinese and Americans... they will be forced to choose sides... Japan will like to remain neutral but being infected by the US pacific fleet isn't going to help it's position... and anti-US sentiment is strong in S. Korea with plans for reunification being a top priority for Seoul... countdown to the next superpower showdown can probably be measured in decades now...

If Russia and China decide to impose communism on the whole world by all means i really think we have no way to stop them, especially with all the terrorists and evil rogue states on their side. Just look at their combined economy and military might. We stand no chance against them. They will start by draining US and Allies of their resources and supporting large-scaled terrorist attacks to incite fears into the people, followed by an actual assualt to end the game using some excuses like making the world a better place to live in. Of course, this will not happen until they are much stronger. I juz fear that we have already fallen for their trap.

Originally posted by Seekerof
not so nice neighborhoods[edit on 2-7-2005 by Seekerof]

... thos neigborhoods are not so bad ive seen worse... my mom knows some guy whos 6 year old son was raped by 2 11 year olds and another 13 year old was getting it on his camera phone so right now they are sending that video to every1 and that guy whose kid got raped cant do anything about it just try to kill the guys who did it and get raped 2 and get killed... something like that happens every 2 weeks or so... ever heard ov chikotila??? he killed and tourtured a bunch ov people...
and besides that i really dont think that a bunch ov rednecks and gangsters are going to do anything to the Russian army

The Russian army is a joke. Terrorised conscripts don't make for an effective fighting force, just look at the mess they made of Afganistan, or thier inept and brutal suppression of Chechnia.
Command and control isn't much better, and Putin and his KGB cronies know it. That's why they are reaching out to the Chinese to prevent their almost total encirclement by the forces of western enlightenment, which now has forces in Ukraine, Georgia, Kazakistan and every other country that borders them.

if ur saying that Russia sucks cuz they can get Chechnia (and they can they just dont want to kill everybody in there) then ur sayinig that the U.S sucks and that Israel sucks and that every other county that has problems with terorists sucks trorists are hard to handle i mean there are a lot ov them and they always hide... and Chechnia is like Vietnam cuz the terorists are hidind in the mountains and in the porests
the funny thing is that the people in America are proud ov Vietnam and they think that they won... god i hate people who think that they won the Vietnam war

They can't admit we lost, because it proves the US is not invincible, and their whole sense of self-esteem is wrapped up in jingoistic "USA #1" BS. If the USA is not invincible and omnipotent, neither are they.

"We won every battle..." yeah well guess what genius, we sill lost the freaking war. Then they go and blame the "treasonous pinko hippies", because they can't admit that the tenacity & toughness of the Vietnamese (who in their own eyes, were fighting a war of independence) had anything to do with their eventual victory.

Jingosm and nationalism-engendered blindness are certainly not the exclusive property of Americans, but our ascendancy to power over the last century has generated a lot of armchair warrior types whose fragile sense of their own masculinity is buffed up by the US's military prowess.

[edit on 7/3/05 by xmotex]