Project Deep Impact targets the solar system's electrical circuitry

"The big, grown-up boys on the NASA team can hardly wait. Next Fourth of July, they get to bust up a comet, Hollywood-style."

Project Deep Impact deliberately goes out into space just to smash a comet into pieces, that has no chance of ever becoming a meteor, mainly because it seems to be in search of justifying a reason for doing so.

The Jerry Pippin Radio Show interviews Blair Mignacco at the March 2005 International UFO Conference, who for the sake of discussion here let's say thinks a bit differently than the trigger-happy US space cowboys. Blair speculates that there may be intelligent life on or in, Comet Tempel 1-- NASA's supposed "dirty little snowball"--and that it is in any case against what would be natural laws of space to be randomly attacking and destroying any parts of it, and that there may be effects that no one can predict but that will probably not be desirable if the full destructive intent of this misguided mission is allowed to be realized.

There is even a law on Earth already that could be interpreted as prohibiting such a mission:

from The Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies, signed into international law in 1966 by the UN:

• States shall be liable for damage caused by their space objects
  
• States shall avoid harmful contamination of space and celestial bodies
  

There may be nothing wrong happening here, but of course there may also be nothing that can be done at any rate at this point, with just two weeks to impact...

imho the ETVs currently intercepting meteors that could harm the Earth, by the same token, also might recognize any intrinsic value in real estate like Comet Tempel 1, and may therefore be inclined to intend for this piece of space to remain intact, and so take necessary steps to keep it from being damaged...

Potential ET assistance might depend to a degree upon being asked for help, collectively via human conscious awareness of some potential problems with, as Blair describes US space policy: a "shoot first and ask questions later policy (toward space) in our home, which is the solar system."

Personally i think it's dangerous to destroy all or part of the home of any potential "living" beings in space, that would be imho a heckuva a way to introduce yourself to a bunch of advanced ETs perhaps associated with this comet, with such unknown forces unleashed, and a possible backlash involving unknown dimensions and consciousnesses to contend with...

this would seem a quantum degree beyond HARP and nuclear testing, both of which directly target the Earth with only secondary adverse side effects on space...

think that maybe the only thing one can do here, is to pray...

do any other members have any feedback or suggestions or ideas on this volatile issue ??





[edit on 19-6-2005 by Collin]

Personally, I think you are taking this to the paranoia level. Nothing like such to worry about.

Sit back and watch the action. If aliens come, u2u me and ill send you 1 dollar.

not a bad deal !

Theres tons of space junk out there, if aliens are not mad yet, I see no worry.

I think you'd find a comet a little less hospitable then you've suggested here. Deep Impact has actually been a pretty valuable mission as NASA has learned about the difficulties in intercepting a moving object in the vastness of space.

If there are ET's watching us then maybe seeing how much more advanced we are becoming will prompt contact, especially if they are as benevolent as Mignacco is suggesting.

Could be this is a clandestine operation to see if we can blow one up, just incase there are ones headed to Earth in the near future?

The nearest to life on the comet, much less any comet would be amino acids. No where near being intelligent life.

Also, I'm a bit confused, are you worried that the comet or pieces of it will pose a threat to Earth? Because that, truely, is an irrational fear. The comet is several miles in size and has an immense mass. The probe, in comparison, is a speck. A great analogy to descibe the two would be like a fly trying to derail a train. It just won't happen. Get my drift?

Originally posted by valkeryie
Could be this is a clandestine operation to see if we can blow one up, just incase there are ones headed to Earth in the near future?

well, no, imo clandestine operations would actually be for instance reverse-engineered and/or dark alien supported technologies. No, such a project like Deep Impact would be--like NASA itself--part of a front for less publicly known black ops.

although if NASA does feel like it can and will take on protecting the Earth against all meteors...that job may have already been taken (see the video at the 3rd link above). Which would mean, if true, that tons of fossil fuel necessary to get such a payload into space are totally wasted: just to help try to keep a lid on what the public knows and provide a little more fireworks on the Fourth of July.

Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid
The nearest to life on the comet, much less any comet would be amino acids. No where near being intelligent life.

Also, I'm a bit confused, are you worried that the comet or pieces of it will pose a threat to Earth? Because that, truely, is an irrational fear. The comet is several miles in size and has an immense mass. The probe, in comparison, is a speck. A great analogy to descibe the two would be like a fly trying to derail a train. It just won't happen. Get my drift?

Get my drift. Is that something John Wayne would say.

Well partner, i know you moved this thread from a home where it could have found some people (like EarthSister) who have considered the possibility of intelligent life on other planets, even asteroids perhaps (haven't had that discussion yet), who make contact with such already on Earth on various levels including sometimes the physical...

Here, maybe not. I'd certainly never think twice about posting something like this in a NASA forum, but that's okay, maybe just for a laugh...

Originally posted by looking4truth
I think you'd find a comet a little less hospitable then you've suggested here. Deep Impact has actually been a pretty valuable mission as NASA has learned about the difficulties in intercepting a moving object in the vastness of space.

If there are ET's watching us then maybe seeing how much more advanced we are becoming will prompt contact, especially if they are as benevolent as Mignacco is suggesting.

What i believe Blair is suggesting is that there is an electrical circuitry in the solar system that can be thrown off by even slighting altering the course or the characteristics of any Earth-orbiting mass.

Well OK maybe i'm proven wrong, let's say, and suppose that massive fires do not break out on the Earth as a result of either: a minor little dent, like the effect of the "probe" is advertised to be; or, the full-on break-up that the boys at NASA might secretly seem to hope. Whatever.

I sure hope that such cosmic naivete is all right and I'm totally wrong. Absolutely want to be wrong here. Please. In fact, I'm praying for your fun space adventure to be just that...but my "gut feeling," or higher instinct, says that this is a very, very bad idea. The reason for launching a space probe for experimenting with comets sounds nice but it's opening a Pandora's Box i fear, yes.

The "payoff" or reward from such a project doesn't seem to me to be worth it. And if going out into space and taking on foreign bodies for casual target practice is a sign of Earth's naescent civilization becoming advanced enough for contact, well that would be fine...But what about a potential "payback" or price in direct energetic Earth fallout? Again, there are easier (to some) more direct conscious ways of contacting the benevolent ETs than to play with planetary bodies' alignments and the solar system's electrical circuitry.

Didn't mean to get all messed up with your neat logical forum, now, gunslinger, you all seem like a bunch a nice people here--so far...but there ya have it. Maybe we'll meet again some day.

great gosh, its a freaking comet, if "life on the comet is "interupted" there are about 5 billion more just like it. It will give nasa a good test for its LIO (large imbound object) inteceptors.

Originally posted by Collin


Project Deep Impact deliberately goes out into space just to smash a comet into pieces, that has no chance of ever becoming a meteor, mainly because it seems to be in search of justifying a reason for doing so.

do any other members have any feedback or suggestions or ideas on this volatile issue ?? :puz

that there comet is 9 miles long/big....it is stated in the article you linked us to, that the 'impact' (not a explosion device!!!) will have NO consequence on the comets future trajectory....being that in the normal life of a comet it is often pelted & impacted by objects which cause craters, also ravienes & cliffs... That 'smash a comet into pieces' comment is quite mis-leading

If, there is some 'Robinson Carueso' intelligence aboard that comet...It has not shown itself or any of its' life support structures or radiated any communication frequencies at any time during the comets' recorded and highly tracked orbit.

I can't think of this experiment as crossing the line of 'weapons' in space.

As far as the Electromagnetic-continium being disrupted, well yes, but i wouldn't think that 'pebble-in-the-pond' event would exert any more quantum fluxuations than the subtile energies recognized as planet influences in Astrology.....u seem to imply that a Cosmic Scale Disruption will be a result of Humans' infringment!?

all in all, i might be able to concieve that the Deep-Impact event
might be a reference point in our era....but not the catalyst of a
cosmic-era-ending event

see ya

Originally posted by CollinThe Jerry Pippin Radio Show interviews Blair Mignacco at the March 2005 International UFO Conference, who for the sake of discussion here let's say thinks a bit differently than the trigger-happy US space cowboys.

No kidding. For instance, unlike the "trigger-happy US space cowboys" he didn't bother learning any science. Or math. He's a proponent of "my personality's so wonderful that it overrides all those bozo-scientists."

After all, science doesn't mean a thing. Everyone KNOWS the universe runs on the force of Mignacco's personality.

Blair speculates that there may be intelligent life on or in, Comet Tempel

Well, there certainly isn't any in Blair's brain. And we know there's got to be life somewhere around...

... if the full destructive intent of this misguided mission is allowed to be realized.

It will destroy his credibility. But not for long enough.

... also might recognize any intrinsic value in real estate like Comet Tempel 1, and may therefore be inclined to intend for this piece of space to remain intact, and so take necessary steps to keep it from being damaged...

It's 9 miles long. And evaporating. Every trip around the sun causes it to lose mass.

Potential ET assistance might depend to a degree upon being asked for help, collectively via human conscious awareness of some potential problems with, as Blair describes US space policy: a "shoot first and ask questions later policy (toward space) in our home, which is the solar system."

So the Little Green Men are going to rush out to save a spaceball? Uh... right. They haven't rushed out to save it from the sun in the past billion years or so, and suddenly they're going to scream, "AGH! LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO PROPERTY VALUES HERE!!!" and all run out to push the thing out of the way of the big bad probe?

Call in a Cosmic Electrician to fix the Solar System's "electrical circuitry"???

Not since the last Marvin the Martian cartoon have I seen such hysterically bad science as Blair puts forth....

think that maybe the only thing one can do here, is to pray..

A better idea is to point and laugh at Mr. M. Still better would be to have him take some basic astronomy and physics and math courses (high school level) but his ego's entirely beyond such things.

Point and laugh. That's the better strategy.

[edit on 20-6-2005 by Indellkoffer]

Collin says:

well, no, imo clandestine operations would actually be for instance reverse-engineered and/or dark alien supported technologies. No, such a project like Deep Impact would be--like NASA itself--part of a front for less publicly known black ops

So you’re saying that the “Deep Impact” operation is really a front for some sort of clandestine thing that NASA isn’t telling us about? Do you have any evidence for what this “real” agenda is? Do you have any evidence that there even is any other agenda, or are you just playing “what-if”?

Here, maybe not. I'd certainly never think twice about posting something like this in a NASA forum, but that's okay, maybe just for a laugh...

Why not? Are the questions here a little too pointed?

What i believe Blair is suggesting is that there is an electrical circuitry in the solar system that can be thrown off by even slighting altering the course or the characteristics of any Earth-orbiting mass.

But no real scientist believes that there is some sort of ‘electrical circuitry’ and no, James McCanney is not a scientist. Like it or not, all the evidence, including previous probes, indicate that comets are not electrical capacitors, and what NASA is doing is real, honest-to-God science.

Again, there are easier (to some) more direct conscious ways of contacting the benevolent ETs than to play with planetary bodies' alignments and the solar system's electrical circuitry.

Waal, Pilgrim, I don’t think many people here in the old science corral believe we’re going to find ET’s, benevolent or otherwise, in asteroids; and most of the ranch-hands here who have managed to struggle through algebra can show that there’s nothing to any of this planetary alignment stuff; and as my Sweetheart of the Rodeo Miz Indelkoffer says, that ol' 9-mile comet is a-losin' its mass to ablation and submimation quicker'n a herd of cows in rustler country; and again, the “solar system’s electrical circuitry” are, to most of us cowpokes, just a bunch of cow-plop.

Or as we say out here in Arizona:

Yee-haw!


[edit on 20-6-2005 by Off_The_Street]

This has to be the funniest alarmist thread about the Deep Impact probe I have yet to read to date First time I've seen little green men brought into the picture though

Originally posted by sardion2000
This has to be the funniest alarmist thread about the Deep Impact probe I have yet to read to date

First time I've seen little green men brought into the picture though

Yeah, I agree... Kudos to Indellkoffer and Off_The_Street for their responses. Those brightened my day to no end.

Originally posted by Collin
Well partner, i know you moved this thread...

Actually, I haven't moved this thread at all. You posted it here in Space Exploration, and here in Space Exploration it'll stay. Now step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, count to ten, and come back down to Earth with the rest of us.

yo a lil off topic but im an astronomy student at maryland and were having a public show the night of july 3 (going into morning july 4) for the impact...




theres going to be various lectures, computer simulations, predictions and of course a live feed of the impact around 150am with a panel discussion afterwards featuring a few of the guys who actually contributed to the project- so yea it should be fun




if youre in the area or want to come, holla at me or visit the maryland astronomy site...you need tickets to go but theyre free and still available im pretty sure

Deep Impact
Yes, scouring the life from small orbiting bodies.
The mission was originally named.
"Comet Cleanser".

saiph says:

im an astronomy student at maryland

We have 75 percent what with you and two of my neighbor's dogs: one is Rigel and the other Bellatrix! (My little Australian Heeler is Cassiopeia -- "Cassie" for short.)

BTW, I went to Suitland HS (1963) in PG County and graduated from U MD in 1969.

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Originally posted by cmdrkeenkid

Originally posted by Collin
Well partner, i know you moved this thread...

Actually, I haven't moved this thread at all. You posted it here in Space Exploration, and here in Space Exploration it'll stay. Now step away from the keyboard, take a deep breath, count to ten, and come back down to Earth with the rest of us.