the real Stargate-SG1

no doubt average citizens have no clue of our actual technological capabilities, and we have, as a race, mis-used our more significant technologies.


BUT


you're probably just messing with me, but I'm just curious, other than internet articles, what has led you to believe we have used stargates and teleporters ? Have we ever been to tatooine ?

here's my take. if the general public had stargate access...we'd probably be ok. but in the hands of some gov'ts(especially US),we're screwed.

Originally posted by radagast
no doubt average citizens have no clue of our actual technological capabilities, and we have, as a race, mis-used our more significant technologies.


BUT


you're probably just messing with me, but I'm just curious, other than internet articles, what has led you to believe we have used stargates and teleporters ? Have we ever been to tatooine ?

To clarify, the similarities of the show with the current workings/technology are few. They share some scientific ideas, especially in the area of quantum communication via entangled particles, but as a whole the show does not reflect reality in any real way.
By the way, I hardly get a chance to browse this most interesting web site. That being said, I had to chuckle at the idea of posting little pieces of random fiction just to mess with people. This is not the case.....if I only had that kind of free time. I soon may be able to post additional information in the form of a report, with visual documentation. However, doing so now would be irresponsible.

Despite a lack of proof of an actual Stargate, we have no reason to disbelieve in it. Look back fifty years ago, when the government was developing the U-2 and Blackbird aircraft. These were Top Secret projects that to the public didn't even exist. And then there's that Aurora thing that they had in the 90's. If the US government was churning out planes like this fifty years ago, imagine the secrets they must have today. A stargate is certainly a possibility, though I doubt that there is one.

i don't doubt that there is life on other planets,but i do doubt that stargate tech has been reached(well at least by the us gov.) that technology is so volitile and in the hands of todays gov i think it would be detrimental to all humans(a shame).

lets not forget star gate atlanits the new spin off on sci fi, does that say something ?

yeah its a governmet technique to make people scoff at fact as they have been used to create a movie therefore if the government want to make people think stargates are fiction they produce a movie tv series' and a spin off.

Originally posted by john_a_anderson
yeah its a governmet technique to make people scoff at fact as they have been used to create a movie therefore if the government want to make people think stargates are fiction they produce a movie tv series' and a spin off.

cool, does this mean godzilla is real ?! awesome, I'm gonna have to check that out !

dont get me wrong i believe in aliens and ufos and there comming to save us in 2012. but i dont think they left us a stargate

fiction is usually based on a real idea. may there isn't a stargate the way it is portrayed in the series,but that type of technology could exist. the earth is old, the universe vast,we may not be the first humanoids to have existed here and maybe some things were left behind,they just haven't been found or aren't ready to be found yet. it is a nice fantasy though, to think one day we can go to other planets and explore.

Originally posted by RobHimself
Are you guys trying to tell us that the Stargate is actually a reality? I mean, I love the show, great story line and so forth, but I don't get all this about the Iraqi's having it. The whole ancient god thing was egyptian. Surposedly, the gate was found in egypt, Giza to be exact. Furthermore, the US Government took the gate to Cheyenne mountain.

Just my two cents,
RobHimself

um, were did you get this information? I did read awhile ago that archeologists did find strange findings in and under the pyraminds, and the government had another reason for invading iraq, namely ufo related. Anyway, please specify about a stargate and egypt, i never heard of that one. Ever hear about the 3-d tomb under the sphinx?

[edit on 1-2-2005 by malakiem]

If you look at the credits following the programme-you will see that the military was involved in the production of the programme.

So as not to cause mass hysteria; it would seem logical to slowly indoctrinate people to the possibility and reality of off-world visitations.

Indoctrination has been going on since the early 50's. They use the media to educate and to indoctrinate into a culture to reduce the mass hysteria that would otherwise ensue if they made a full announcement, or an event occurred that the public weren't prepared for.

Orson Wells 'War of the Worlds' broadcast may have been produced in such a way to gauge people's reaction to off-world visitors. The mass hysteria that came as a result showed the majority of the populace wasn't ready for such an encounter.

However, they can't keep the lid on it indefinitely-the only solution is the slow indoctrination of the masses to the reality of offworld visitations to prevent mass hysteria on a global scale.

Originally posted by southern_cross3
Despite a lack of proof of an actual Stargate, we have no reason to disbelieve in it.

Sure, despite the lack of proof of an actual Big Foot, we have no reason to disbelieve in it too huh? Look, the only reason we are talking about this is because of a movie back in the 90's that starred James Spader and Kurt Russell came out. It was a fun movie, but that's it. The lack of an actual stargate and any traces of evidence of one is all the proof I need to disbelieve in it.

Last year I posted an identical topic and the response I received were all negative. What has happened since than? Most of the responsives I have read are positive or open minded.

People have become more open minded recently due to the events in the media. the statement that a gate was found in Giza comes from the film as it is found in 1939 in the giza plateau. Furthermore the us millitary being involved in the stargate series is interesting. the use f cheyenne mountain base for the shooting of the series could explaiin it however i think there is more to it than that. anyone watching the series recently will notice they have just done two episodes where a filmmaker creates a documentary for when the public are told about the gate. Couldnt this be based on reality. just a few thoughts.

If you look at the credits the programme is sanctioned by the military. Whether or not they have one; well that is speculative. However, slow indoctrination with sanctions by the military is highly plausible.

Didn't they just get the USAF to advise them on realistic military procedures? Surely that could be the reason they are mentioned in the credits.

Originally posted by flycatch
Last year I posted an identical topic and the response I received were all negative. What has happened since than? Most of the responsives I have read are positive or open minded.

You may want to read the report I posted a couple weeks back:
www.fas.org...
Please note that the above report is not reflective of the current technological state of the project. The next report is due out in the next month or so, but probably will not be declassified for some time. This I do know, DARPA's recent increase in the Black Budget "pie" has irritated the folks at Boeing, Lockhead Martin and such. To me, this increase is most likely directly corrulated to successes on the research end of things, at least this has been the case in the past. The biggest obstacles in this technology have not been on the "know how" side of things, but shortcomings computationally and in terms of energy requirements(amount needed). I know recent advancements in quantum computing, exotic matter and a better understanding of the Cassimir Effect have most likely made this idea much less "fictional" and perhaps even "doable".

worldblend could you please provide a summary of your report as it takes a while to sort through 88 pages of data. also does anyone have any more ideas on this theory. it seeems possible from what ive read.

Originally posted by john_a_anderson
worldblend could you please provide a summary of your report as it takes a while to sort through 88 pages of data. also does anyone have any more ideas on this theory. it seeems possible from what ive read.

John:

The report basically talked about the different technologies that could be developed from the concepts of entangled particles, quantum computing and the manipulation of vacuum space/zero point. The General Theory of Relativity(GTR) provides for wormhole creation in two different ways. First being a Black Hole, which is a gravitational collapse of matter...... basically a tear in the fabric of space/time in which you have a singularity and an event horizon. These two properties of a Black Hole make it non-traversable. The second method is an Einstein-Rosen Bridge Event, which is basically a collapse of a spherical area of vacuum space(vacuum that is free of background radiation) This method requires less energy, but is still considered non-traversable in its raw form. However, the potential exists to manipulate conditions/energy and apply technologies in such a way that an Einstein-Rosen Bridge would be made traversable. Note: this would require exotic matter (or some derivative of)

The science /math equations hold up, its just a matter of engineering a method of stabilizing cavity space(a method to hold the door open) and a means of steering, or more accurately, a way to attract/connect with your desired destination. This is a little complex, but in short this would be done by attracting your destination to you by setting up some type of shadow signature that would create a dimensional resonance, which would in turn act to pull the two points in space/time together.

I personally don't believe that any nation has found any stargates. I do believe there are locations on the earth with unique geological properties...... properties and conditions that would make them potential hosts for such a door.(they may even have a naturally occurring wormhole phenomenon present already) In fact, one of the specific functions of the project is to "search for and identify naturally occurring wormhole phenomenon". This is the area in which I have some personal experience.

It is important to note that this report is very outdated and judging from the recent black budget increases in funding to this project, I would say there has been some major advances in this realm. Remember, the teleportation of elementary particles has already been achieved and reported publicly. So for a realistic estimate of the current level of this technology, add about 30 years to the successes that are already in the public domain.

Regards,

Worldblend