The Shriners and their

Interesting article...not a conspiracy site...

www.hour.ca...

"In a piece published last May titled "Shriner showdown" (Hour 1220), Hour reporter Alex Roslin wrote that "a 1986 Orlando Sentinel inquiry found that only 30 per cent of total Shriner fundraising and investment income went to the hospitals. The Shriners' best-known fundraising activity is the Shrine Circus... But only 1 per cent of circus profits went to medical care, the newspaper estimated. It found that the rest of the money went to things like entertainment, travel and upkeep of private bars for the Masonic organization's half-million members."

Originally posted by Modulok
Interesting article...not a conspiracy site...

www.hour.ca...

"But only 1 per cent of circus profits went to medical care, the newspaper estimated.

emphasis mine

Hrmm that one word kinda shoots the credibility of the article in the foot now doesn't it.....Says to me "We don't know the answer so we "estimated" it" (ie guessed/made up/fabricated)

just my observation

Originally posted by Modulok
Interesting article...not a conspiracy site...

www.hour.ca...

No, it's not a conspiracy site, it's a news article (with definite op/ed tendencies) lamenting the fact that they ARE NOT getting the Shriners Hospital built in their city (Montreal, Quebec).

www.hour.ca
The decision to award London the new $108-million Shriner children's hospital - which still must be ratified by two-thirds of the Shriners' voting delegates at their July convention - has made my birthplace something of a dirty word here in the ville where I've lived the other half of my life. It's also made for a mixed bag of emotions personally.

The hometown proud part of me is secretly ecstatic about the new prestige the project will bring a city I've had rare occasion to boast about. London usually only makes the news when Labatt's rolls out another brand of water and hops, or when GM Defense, Canada's largest military contractor, rolls out another light-armoured tank, or when one of its religiously insane mayors rolls out another biblical reason for ignoring calls by the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal to allow Gay Pride parades. Those sorts of things.

On the other hand, the Montreal-loving-and-never-leaving me mourns the loss of yet another of those essential elements that makes a modern metropolis great, elevating the city that gave me opportunities I never would have had in London.

“The hometown proud part of me is secretly ecstatic about the new prestige the project” does not sound negative, nor does “Montreal-loving-and-never-leaving me mourns the loss of yet another of those essential elements that makes a modern metropolis great (referring to not having a Shriners Hospital).”
Instead of accepting the sentiment of the article, you chose to dwell on a reference to an article written elsewhere (and not provided in it’s entirety), because it suits your agenda.

Disingenuous?

Absolutely.

The Shriner’s Hospitals and their fund raising are under constant government scrutiny. Rather than rehash the same information over, and over again, go to the source:

[url]http://www.shrinershq.org/[url]

www.shrinershq.orgIn addition to their own fraternal fund raisers, Shrine Temples, or chapters, often conduct fund-raising events to benefit Shriners Hospitals. When a fund-raiser is a charitable fund-raiser, 100 percent of the net proceeds go to the hospitals. Charitable fund-raisers held by Shriners raise approximately $12 million a year for Shriners Hospitals.

Truth Monkeys, not just for outing agendas anymore…

mirthful, i do accept the sentiment of the article. i left that quote to attracted peoples interest so that they would click the link and read the article.

think for a second how twisted your reaction is. I post a link that says something positive about masons, and you jump to the conclusion that i most have not really read it, because you've hallucinated some evil anti-mason agenda on my part.

you've got problems kid...

Our Circus Tickets state on each ticket, that the funds raised by the circus go to pay for the Temple day to day operations, building maintenance, paying staff, power and water bills, Insurance, stuff like that.

Its the individual clubs with in each Temple that raise the funds for the kids, not the circus.

It costs us about 13 million dollars a week to fund the 22 Shrine hospitals.

You have men and women working tirelessly around the clock to raise money to keep these hospital staffed with the finest medical equipment and the best staff money can buy.

Its really impressive to be at a stated meeting and watch the individual clubs present check after check to the temple potentate in support of the kids and the hospitals.

The Shrine hospitals accept no payment from anyone, regardless of wealth or race.

It does not matter if you are black or white, if you child is injured or ill we will take care of them.

We take great pride in being able to serve our Nation and her children in this small way.

And just another FYI a vast majority of the circus tickets purchased are paid for by the individual Shriner, these tickets are handed out to families in the community who are less fortunate or single parent families or group homes of mentally ill or downs syndrome patients.

So if you have a temple of 5000 members, each member is sent 4 tickets at $10.00 buck a pop, the Shriner has the option to return the tickets or purchase them as a Circus dad, its these tickets that go out into the community.

So when you bitch about the shrine circus not supporting the hospital, you are misinformed and clueless on how the shrine operates and what we do.

So look around your school, office or neighborhood, I am sure there is someone close to you who has been assisted by a Shriner, Master Mason or a Scottish Rite Nobel and you just don't realize it because we are not out for fame and glory, we just want to help our Nations children grow up healthy happy and free.

Originally posted by Modulok
mirthful, i do accept the sentiment of the article. i left that quote to attracted peoples interest so that they would click the link and read the article.

By that logic, only a negative statement can create interest here. I would submit that a new hospital that provides completely free healthcare for children is far more noteworthy and interesting, especially in light that your selected quote is 19 years old, while the crux of the article is current.

think for a second how twisted your reaction is. I post a link that says something positive about masons, and you jump to the conclusion that i most have not really read it, because you've hallucinated some evil anti-mason agenda on my part.

Think how twisted your logic is. You try to pawn off your intent by citing a positive article, yet of all the paragraphs, and all of the positive statements, you chose to quote the one negative paragraph; one that was not even written by the author of the current article. That's not a hallucination, that's fact; why else would you select that paragraph? Easy, the remainder of the article didn't suit your agenda. I bolster that point by the fact that you've made no real attempt at posting any constructive material in this thread. You started a thread with a link and a quote, no other member content to speak of. When the context of your post is exposed, you weakly state "i do accept the sentiment of the article." Then to top it off, you then claim your real intent was to "post a link that says something positive about masons."

you've got problems kid...

Problems? If I only did...

Old Fart Monkeys, not just for one more day as a kid anymore...

I am thankful for all the monetary help the Shriners raise. My son is a patient at the Shriners Hospital in Chicago and I'm very grateful for the facility. My Uncle was a Shriner for years, he is now 92 years old and thanks to him and his affiliation with them, my son can benefit from their generousity. I would have never thought to take him there if it weren't for knowing somebody that belongs. I can assure that the money raised is going towards updating and keeping technology upgraded as the hospital in Chicago is just about finished with adding on the clinic section and expanding the hospital to include acquatic therapy etc. It has been wonderful watching it grow. Although it would have been great not to have to take a child there. I am thankful they exist!!!

SIRR1 is correct about the individual Shriners paying for many of the tickets. My Dad was a Shriner, and when he received his tickets, he always wrote a check to pay for the tickets, then stuck it and the tickets into the return envelope.

He also actively sought out children that needed to be sent to the Shriners Hospital.