Sumbliminal Messages that you found...

Without the internet. Me, I've found several.

An easy one I found (that amazed my friends) was a cardboard stand up at the movie theater promoting the new Deuce Bigelow movie. It shows Deuce (not sure of the actors name) sitting in a chair in front of the Leaning Tower of Piza. The tower placed behind him so it appears as if it's emerging from his crotch area. When I pointed that out, my friends thought it was pretty bizarre.

It's also pretty easy to find subliminal messages in magazines and commercials. For instance, the Enzyte commercial. Now there are pretty obvious innuendos in those commercials, but I noticed one that was pretty well hidden. It showed "Bob", the man who uses the product, saving a cat out of the tree. Now this may not make sense to some people, but I thought about it and figured that it is a reference to "getting *****."

Anyone want to share other ones they found?

The FedEx logo.

The arrow would make you feel that they're quick and straight to the point.

Originally posted by TechniK
The FedEx logo.

The arrow would make you feel that they're quick and straight to the point.

Thats not subliminal. That is nothing more than good design. As a designer who has designed 50+ real world logos, I have always thought the FedEx logo was quite clever, but certainly not revolutionary- just good use of negative space.

We shouldnt confuse "subliminal" messages with "clever marketing" where a bunch of overpaid self-important trendy double mocca latte drinkers sit around a marble conference table spewing the next great "out of the box" idea that is suppossed to get you to buy whatever crap they are selling. Oh yea and they like to do this using inuendos. Because if you can find the inuendo in their message, then you're "almost as cool" as them.

Excuse me while jump into my BMW and head down to Starbucks...

Peace

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Subliminal messages or images appear in films like the Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and also Fight Club and I'm sure they're in a lot more films.

Im not to sure if they are allowed to use such methods in advertising, as they are supposed to be highly effective.

Spacemunkey

Originally posted by spacemunkey
Im not to sure if they are allowed to use such methods in advertising, as they are supposed to be highly effective.

Spacemunkey

Not allowed? lol... I assure you its not only allowed but ENCOURAGED. It's all about making money. They spend hundreds of thousands on testing labs/focus groups to research what "subliminal messages" are the most effective.

Go watch TV and watch the commercials, pay attention, and ask yourself after the commercial is over,... what did they say about the product/service that was proven factual and benefical to you. Are they appealing to your logic as to why you should by the product or are they appealing to your basic human need to "belong". For example, a soda commercial; if you "Do the DEW" you'll be cool too just like these guys climbing mountains.

Somehow, they have come to the conclusion that you are so stupid as to think " wow- if i drink that, my life will be full of adventure" or "hey I already drink that so I belong in the cool person group!"... this my friends is what they count on to make their money- you being a stupid lemming.

I'm telling you- I've been in meetings where a VP has said stuff like " We need to MAKE THEM THINK they need this product- lets show a hot woman.... etc"

Funny thing is- it works.

But don't kid yourself- there is very little they wont try to make money.

Peace

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Serum39...

I was refering to the images that are flashed up for a millisecond in between the frames of the film.

Spacemunkey

does anybody know of any sites w/ screen caps of subliminal messages ?

Originally posted by spacemunkey
Serum39...

I was refering to the images that are flashed up for a millisecond in between the frames of the film.

Spacemunkey

Ahhh ok, sorry my bad.

Peace

This one isn't anything special but something i noticed which probably goes on in a lot of cartoons. the one thats always stuck in my head for some reason is ahem, on one of the episodes on the show rocko's modern life on nickelodeon(sp?) i think it was rocko held up a card for the american scottish society, but the way it was placed on the card was...

American
Scottish
Society

ASS!!!

now this could be a coincedence, but come on

im going to try and find a screen shot of this.

The creators of Rocko's Modern Life have been known to hide sexual and adult material in the cartoon.

It's still one of my favorite shows though.

I love that show, I havn't seen it for years though.

There's always the Disney ones!!

Everything Serum said is true, I worked in advertising, and I'm so happy to not work in advertising anymore. Its so vile and dishonest.

Funny what he said about BMW and Starbucks double latte's, the people I worked with who were doing ads and material for BMW would go to Starbucks for that crap!!! Coincedence?
Freaking eerie is what it is.

My first ad campaign was for some material in firefighters uniforms that keeps them dry, but allows their sweat to evaporate through the material. I forget what my boss finally designed, but his ex partner won the account with his ad depicting a fireman holding a naked woman to his chest.
Sex sells!

OK, this is kind of silly, but when I saw it I got upset. (Because my children were watching it also.) Sponge Bob Squarepants has an episode where his pet snail walks in and catches him watching a Discovery Channel type show about sponges reproducing. SB gets all nervous, flips the channel, and tries to pass it off as nothing was going on. Sound familiar? Our sweet, albeit stupid friend Sponge Bob, just got caught watching porn!

Originally posted by spacemunkey
Subliminal messages or images appear in films like the Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and also Fight Club and I'm sure they're in a lot more films.

Im not to sure if they are allowed to use such methods in advertising, as they are supposed to be highly effective.

Spacemunkey

It is illegal to use single-frame shots in movies to advertise. I believe it began when movie theaters would insert pictures of popcorn and candy into the movie reel. And sure enough, the amount of popcorn they sold went up.

In Fight Club, the subliminal messages are a part of the movie, they are only foreshadowing what happens at the end, so i would not consider this subliminal messaging, but rather an effective use of a filming method.

I have not seen the other two movies.

---Pineapple

P.S. When Gaston drops the triplets on his sidekick in Beauty and the Beast during the song in the bar (no one...fights like Gaston...takes cheap shots like Gaston), you get a clear shot of their underwear, the seams are drawn on and everything. This is the only subliminal message i found in Disney that i wasnt previously told about.

Originally posted by pineappleupsidedown

It is illegal to use single-frame shots in movies to advertise. I believe it began when movie theaters would insert pictures of popcorn and candy into the movie reel. And sure enough, the amount of popcorn they sold went up.

I think you've been watching too many reruns of "Saved by the Bell".

subliminal

sub·lim·i·nal ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sb-lm-nl)
adj. Psychology
Below the threshold of conscious perception. Used of stimuli.
Inadequate to produce conscious awareness but able to evoke a response


you can't see subliminal messages, they are designed to reach your subconscious mind. I would think print media is an awful way to attempt it, it would have to be movies or tv since our perception is so easliy fooled in that format.

It shows Deuce (not sure of the actors name) sitting in a chair in front of the Leaning Tower of Piza. The tower placed behind him so it appears as if it's emerging from his crotch area

This is not 'subliminal'. It is advertising a film about a 'gigolo' (hence the phallus) which happens to be based in Europe. All you have done is spot what the people who designed the poster wanted you to spot anyway. Although they may be thinking they have failed if you had many 'amazed' friends, as they obviously made it a little to subtle!

Subliminal messages or images appear in films like the Exorcist and Clockwork Orange and also Fight Club

As mentioned before, Fight Club's single frame images are part of the movie. The same is applied to The Exorcist. When it was released in the '70s there were only a couple of single frame additions of the demon's face. When the 'Version You Have Never Seen' was released more recently, the powers that be saw fit to through in a couple of CGI faces, most notably in the kitchen on the oven cowling near the start. They also used sound a little more to promote fear in the viewer.
Also, in A Clockwork Orange, it is often wrongly stated that there are subliminal images spliced into the scene where Alex rapes the Catlady. The images that are there are various frames of the pictures adorning the woman's walls and are of bondage scenes etc. This was a film making technique the same as the prvious examples.

I think true subliminal images that persuade you on a subconscious level to purchase the product are found in print advertising (normally related to sex I believe) and rarely in film.

one that i stumbled upon was so ~subliminal~ that im really not sure how real i should consider it.

it is in the film "a knights tale" that came out not too long ago (@5yrs).

towards the end of the film, as is typical with hollywood films, the badguy looses. well in his defeat, there is one scene where the whole crew of 'goodguys' huddles above his head, and from a first person screen shot a few words are spoken.

understand, the words are spoken as if directed at the 'badguy' but the camera shot is from his point of view, so the words in effect are spoken to you, the viewer of the film. the words are these;

"welcome to the new world."

not only is the message uncanny in that it really doesnt do anything for the film. and is reminiscant of papaBUSH days - but the 5 goodguys i mentioned who are all looking at the camera are arranged in a pentagram, notably an inverted pentagram.

after looking into it a bit, i found it interesting to see what other films the director "brian helgalund" had participated in.

note: the director is in the film, and is the one individual out of the 5 who voiced the words, "welcome to the new world."


im glad this thread came up, because i have been wanting to share this with somebody. if you have the film, please go check it out. it has to be within the last 20 minutes of the film. i would like to hear what other think, but IMHO it is definetley subliminal.

Originally posted by lost
one that i stumbled upon was so ~subliminal~ that im really not sure how real i should consider it.

There are so many! Check out Apocalypse Now for 'interesting shots' especially with themes of 'blood sex word magic'

Subliminal is 'below the threshold of conscious perception' - that bit is so important! It means if you are not aware of it, it is then subliminal. So all those hints and tricks that advertisers and film makers use, by definition, is subliminal. When it is pointed out to you, drawn to your conscious perception then it is no longer subliminal.

Sex does sell but not really consciously (I think) but in the subliminal (blatant sexual imagery is probably a fake front for the idea that sex sells).

Here is why I think this. I was in Blackpool with my family a while back. I saw ads everywhere for a topless act that was happening locally. I chose not to let my eyes linger on the images (they were everywhere!). I use the public toilets in the fairground... I sit down (sorry for the imagery!) and I come face to face with the same bloody ad (a sticker on the back of the door) for this topless group called Mystique or something.

So, I decide Im going to examine the ad. Im astounded, yeah they have 3 women covering their bare chest, very overt sex stuff... but I look at the words/fonts used. The capital M well, Ill have to draw it [ok drawn and scanned]



As you can see, they used symbolism… just in case the boobies didn’t get you consciously, how about a symbol going directly to your brain getting straight to the point, sex.