"The Ancients"

Is it possible that the greys and ancients have secretly chosen who will fight on there side during the "great war"...they could have abducted people and marked them...so when the war happens..they can easily have there armies set-up,insted of having to wait for us to pick sides.

To me thats what makes since...im pretty sure most people would rather kill themselves then join any group of aliens in a mega war.


what do you think?

The only flaw with that theory is that some people have absolutely no connection with abductions or could have inherited a genetic marker from parents.

Originally posted by JackofBlades
The only flaw with that theory is that some people have absolutely no connection with abductions or could have inherited a genetic marker from parents.

Its possible they dont even know they've been abducted.

If there is going to be a war,maybe they dont want us to choose sides..they will pick our teams for us.

I think it will be more along the lines of both races exposing themselves and saying their hard done by and that they have been trying to contact us for centuries but the other stopped them yada yada.

When it comes down to it, both sides might not really be good for us. One wants our planet and people for material reasons, the other feeds on our souls (thats the gist we get from earlier posts.)

Originally posted by JackofBlades
I think it will be more along the lines of both races exposing themselves and saying their hard done by and that they have been trying to contact us for centuries but the other stopped them yada yada.

When it comes down to it, both sides might not really be good for us. One wants our planet and people for material reasons, the other feeds on our souls (thats the gist we get from earlier posts.)

I think both sides are working with each other to enslave us.They arnt trying to kill each other.

I think Mengaurd only has half of the story correct.Im sure the ancients lied to him,just so he wouldnt know there true intentions for humankind.

If and when there is a war..our only hope will be jesus..if he really does exsist?

[edit on 9-1-2006 by MagicPriest420]

Menguard? Lied to?

Surely the benificient Ancient ones in their infinite mercy wouldn't do such a thing.

Oh wait. They told him they prevent our souls leaving earth for selfish reasons, and that their violent and one of their reptilian servants 'supposedly' followed another of their contacts when he began shedding a less 'friendly' light on them.
Priest did you read the older posts? You'll know who I mean.

We don't know much about the other race as the Ancients have failed to divulge any information on them. That in itself is a bad sign. If you want allies you would naturally tell them all of the atrocities the 'baddies' have performed.

These superior beings have alternate thinking patterns. We automatically assume the worse, always. I doubt they'd do such a thing.
Menguard isn't dumb enough to be lied to either, since he is contacting these creatures.

I'm with the ancients, because the Greys have bad physical intentions for us. Who said the Ancients are going to use our souls in bad ways by the way? For all you guys know, they're going to put us in a heaven forever.

There's too much to assume to say what you guys said. Therefore it's false.

For some reason both of you assume that they both want to do bad things to us, no. The Ancients are trying to save us from eternal pain and torture from the Greys.

If they do make us choose sides, I'm with the Ancients.


Menguard: So, how do you meditate? I've tried some forms but they only get me so far...

No my interaction with them was one of a human standpoint, but what people should be realising is that we all have pre calculated measures of our world.And when they don't meet up with our "description" of this world we reknew our description."Your enemy could be the one that help sets you free".There is a lot of meaning (behind) this statement, and that is don't be so quick to (judge) with the [utmost authority] until you understand the other standpoint/perspective.

Well, I am going to tell what I know of this it happened long ago when our star brothers and sisters were fighting for their rights and claims as individual processors.

Each individual group had its own priority, whether it be survival, growth,wealth, technology advancement,harvesting planets.Each group had something to offer that lead to its advancement or demise.The throws of the Universe were at hand it was how can we achieve our own unique individuality without seperating ourselves from other sanctions of self.

This of course being other forms of existance.

Well from what I was told is that "Earthlings" are special.The heads of each intergalactic faction of evolved souls came to the conclusion that they were at odds with each other because of Potential.They needed another "Experimental potential" which would be a win, win situation for everyone.Each group had their own agenda on what they wanted accomplished and the majority vote was (Identity) amongst the cosmos.And for one to identify with something it must be a part of it.

So the Earthlings composition is somewhat intermingled indeed but is still the root of source without deviating from its source.I have heard stories of each group adding itself its expression without knowing it and this is false.Each individual part of self had its contribution put in with the [intent of keeping the cosmos together ]and it is us humans.We are the glue that helps bind together the worlds of worlds.Each group of evolved souls had its genuine purpose of helping establish its identity of self and Earthlings are just that.

The people that start awakening are finding out that they are interconnected to many expressions of being or existance amongst the stars.Being that we are multi dimensional the soul occupies many forms, simultaneously.This was planned out long before we entered the Earthly realm.And a lot of feuds did take place in space and Yes it was known as the Great Galactic War or "The war that ends all wars".These wars or squables that took place created hardships for everyone , it meant that each individual faction of evolved souls had to take its place in the Cosmos on its own bearings.

In a sense they had to come of age and go out on their own.The theory was that we would learn more of what is by being spread out and in doing so it created unknowingness of what other factions are up to.This was very hard for them to do because they wouldn't really be able to recognise other factions of themself.This like I said, created a lot of pain and unpleasentries, family was turning on itself for individuality or identity.But the plan was for the other factions to reunite and what better way for its" Earthlings" to intermingle and reflect back their identity to them.

Humans bridge the gap of individuality by being part of all.

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[edit on 10-1-2006 by sanctum]

Wait, if souls assume different forms in the different layers of this universe, what forms? Animals? or other forms in the sense of lust, temptation, evil, good, etc.

recently, ive been thinking off layers to the universe, we are after all one, we are the universe experianceing itself, but refering to layers, i think he means like in this life you are a living creature in the next you could be a plant on a distant system or perhaps no organic objects and so on..i think this idea is related to the whole adventure to the god-Head theory

tho i only read upto the 7 page, i must say that this epic story of the ancients should patent those "statements" would be great in a game, i thought it was the next idea for final fantasy 13

Originally posted by Vinci
There's too much to assume to say what you guys said. Therefore it's false.

Assumption makes it false? People believe or assume aliens exist. We're assuming Menguard isn't lying himself or experienced some kind of hallucination.
Plus what you just said means that, in your words, 'There's too much to assume' that they are good or peacefuil towards us. Therefore its false. Do you have proof they are good? Or even exist? We assume they do, but by your reasoning they can't.

So why are you here?

In our evolutionary path we are given great responsibiltity, and with it comes many treasures.When we move up in our "natural evolutionary path" instead of just a planet, we move on to a galaxy then a solar system.

We will be responsible for the survival of many life forms.The greater the responsibility the greater the reward.Moving up in "vibration" is the exact same thing taking" responsibility" for everything and everyone.Within your chain of command so to speak.

Originally posted by AeroQuake
Sorry, what logic is this? It seems now that every time I get closed to finding logical chat this crap comes up. Why is it that every bright-eyed member has to make up some story to get recognized? I'm not impressed, and I hope no one else is. The fact of all the Machine crap is to "Prevent" people from testing your logic, I see flaws, the biggest one, how did you master the OOB technique, did it take years of training? Or is it another story? If these 'Ancients' had a superiority complex would they not have taken us over. What do you mean 'Beings of life' this is why this thread, and you are pathetic. Find something worthwhile to post, not this crap.

[edit on 9-6-2005 by AeroQuake]

What is crap to you is someone elses's reality. This is exactly what the shift in light and dimensions MEANS someone who experiances outside the thinking of norm box!! People like the person who started the thread can prove these things but they are kind enough to take their time to share their experiance with us! If you choose not to belive it, that is entierly your own choice, knowbody is forcing anything on you. You are entileled to your opinion of course but people don't go making up stories hear just to try and be popular. It is to prove the SHIFT IS TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW Many more of us are having communication's with other races from outside earth. Many of us are having experiances of supernatural nature and we are becoming more aware and more spiritual.

[edit on 05012005 by Earth Angel]

Earthangel,

Agreed those that are open to this idea of reality have awakened something in themselves.I am just doing what all of us do when given the oppurtunity to broaden and expand our "set reality". Emptying what is known so I can progress forward to.I appreciate all aspects of information divulged by all members reguarding on what is known and unknokwn.

I find it interesting that people are so suspicious of anyone that has done anything that they cannot do, if it does not yet have a scientific explanation. It is sad that there is such a shortage of trust these days. I like to start off trusting people, then, if they break that trust, I will begin to doubt their words. In millions of peoples lives, paranormal, supernatural, magical, or miraculous things are related to others. The listener can choose to scoff, or reserve judgement, or believe them. It has been my experience that when the average person is told that something like that happened, they don't believe it. Understandably, I guess. But, think about this... it is not fun being accused of being either delusional or dishonest. It is hard for me to grasp why someone would concoct a story which is bound to result in ridicule. Sometimes it happens, there are always going to be liars, frauds, and hoaxers. That does not make everyone who shares a bizarre account one of them. People are generally sincere when they recount these things, from what I have seen.

Wait, if souls assume different forms in the different layers of this universe, what forms? Animals? or other forms in the sense of lust, temptation, evil, good, etc.- Vinci


There is no good or bad only energy in constant motion.Souls assimilate to their creative potential.Yes we are limit less when it comes to form.With each new form is a new perspective of reality."Vibrational patterning" seems to keep us in our level of attainment.

[edit on 11-1-2006 by menguard]

but isnt that ab it on a contradiction, with trust, there may not be a lot of trust but then even this board says, question everything, deny ignorance, anyone whos going to question will want proof, (sorry im new i havent looked at the quote command yet)

but isnt that ab it on a contradiction, with trust, there may not be a lot of trust but then even this board says, question everything, deny ignorance, anyone whos going to question will want proof, (sorry im new i havent looked at the quote command yet)-Judgeof darkness

Proof is always of a personal nature or experience it is a self realization with everything in reality.Discernment is needed with everything in life.

I have sometimes felt that the whole exercise of presenting proof is often of little value. If it is a matter of trust, then your friends probably don't need proof to believe you, and your foes are just as likely to disregard your proof anyway, and continue to disbelieve you. Of course, in scientific circles, proof supporting ones theories is a must, but I don't think it is of much use elsewhere, cuz your friends don't need proof, and your foes might not believe it anyway.