Mt. shasta california

is there anyone out there who has heard of the creaters that supposadly live under mt. shasta in northern california? if so what do we know out there...all i know is hear say, i just want to see what else other people think is out there.

Originally posted by umwolves123
is there anyone out there who has heard of the creaters that supposadly live under mt. shasta in northern california? if so what do we know out there...all i know is hear say, i just want to see what else other people think is out there.

The Lemurians. Local lore.

Some interesting tales from the residents of McCloud and Mt. Shasta. Mostly perpetuated by the local Chambers of Commerce as local color and contributes in a small way to the tourist draw.

There is another really bizarre tale of the reptiloids having a secret base there, connected by a tunnel to another secret base under Mt. Lassen. Not even the most fervent UFO conspiracy freak accepts that story, though. It's pretty laughable, even by UFO standards. (Not very intelligent to build a base inside an active volcano that can erupt at any time, is it?)

LOL that's true. but i know someone has gone there to check it out...anyone know of someone whos tried?

Originally posted by umwolves123
LOL that's true. but i know someone has gone there to check it out...anyone know of someone whos tried?

I live near Mt. Lassen. Hike, bike, paddle, and camp in the area all the time. No aliens inside.

"live near Lassen"
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Then you must have visited the lava tube. There is also a huge cave
adjacent to it. Easier to see on the way out than on the way down.
I've stayed at Hereford Campgrounds there(all grass) and fished the
legendary "Hat Creek".We went through the tube at midnite.
A bit "eerie"...to say the least. A bronze plaque at the "tube" states that
the Indians believed "Sasquatch" lived in the tube. They fail to mention
the cave..............................






[edit on 3-6-2005 by lashlarue]

Originally posted by lashlarue
"live near Lassen"
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Then you must have visited the lava tube.
[edit on 3-6-2005 by lashlarue]

Subway Cave at the junction of Hwys 89 & 44 is a lava tube that is touristed up with stairs, interpretive signs, and the like. Just a short distance from the Subway Cave is another whose location is not advertised. It requires technical caving skills and equipment to explore, and is real amazing inside. There are literally thousands of lava tubes around northeast CA. Most are small, requiring crawling and squeezing to enter, and only go a short distance. Even the most detailed topo map does not show even a fraction of them all. New ones are discovered periodically. I found a new one about 15 years ago (nothing elaborate, suck in your stomach to squeeze in and it goes about 10 meters and dead ends). Lava Beds National Monument, north of Lassen and east of Shasta has many large and elaborate cave systems open to the public.

But no. Contrary to the story, there is no tunnel connecting Lassen and Shasta. And no reptile aliens living inside. Makes a good campfire story, though.

Dave,

Thanks for the reply. And yes, I agree about the "many" tubes in the area.
Supposedly many sightings of the "Sasquatch"on the slopes of Lassen....

[edit on 4-6-2005 by lashlarue]

Originally posted by umwolves123
is there anyone out there who has heard of the creaters that supposadly live under mt. shasta in northern california?

Yes! How intersting, I had thought that the idea wasn't very popular. There are stories of all sorts of weird goings on there, strange apparitions, bizzare lights, secret bases and illuminated beigns, etc. As one poster notes, its often said to be Lemurians, which is an idea from Theosophy. Lemurians being a sort of people that suffered the same fate as the atlantians.

See, before plate tectonics and Alfred Wegener, people, scientists, invoked land bridges, that subsided and rose throughout history to explain the patterns of biogeography. For example, there are lemurs in, i think, madagascar, and lemurs in india, but not in the middle east of most of the rest of africa. So the question was, hows that possible? The answer, there used to be a land bridge or island between india and africa, and it was called Lemuria, and it eventually sank. The theosophists, blatvasky in particular I beleive, noted that this was just like atlantis, and postulated, indeed, eventually communed with ( i think anyway) lemurians, who were a different sort of animal than people, somewhat grotesque with backwards pointing feet and the like, and I think advanced tech or knowledge.

I'm not really sure how the lemurians got transfered to Mt Shasta in california. Perhaps theosophism was popular around Mt Shasta for a time, or that was a popular way of thinking around the time that people wanted to explain the strangeness there.

AAI read somewhere that there is a city under mount shasta called Tero's & has 1.5 million people living there, all live to be very old.

so basically what we have here is just a bunch of campfire storys that get imbellished from time to time? man thats a bummer, not nearly as fun as lemurians or an undergrown city.

Heres a link to some stuff about my shasta & alot of others mysteries of the Mojave desert & west coast.

www.think-aboutit.com...

[edit on 5-6-2005 by jonSUN]

All I know about Mt. Shasta is that it is mentioned in a Pixies song, Velouria. Maybe Frank Black is actually a pixie with elephantitis and he came from Mt. Shasta...

I'm sorry...

Well, I know I bring this up almost every time Lemuria comes around, but for the benefit of those who haven't heard it yet, I'll recap.

Before continental drift was discovered, there was no explanation for the distribution of Lemurs and their fossil ancestors, and as a result the theory arose of a lost contintent named for those animals- Lemuria. This was promoted by a German evolutionist named Ernst Haeckel (spelling?) whose career was characterized by backing the wrong theories (often in contradiction of Darwin) and at least once falsifying research.

A year after Haeckel published his theory, the founder of the Theosophical Society, HP Blavatsky, wrote "The Secret Doctrine", and later she wrote "The Stanzas of Dyzan" and other works, many of them dealing with lost cotinents, including Mu, which was a lost pacific continent piggy-backed on the Lemuria theory. The goal of the theosophical society was to demonstrate that the occult was on par with contemporary science. Bringing out the lost continent theory was a gambit to prove this by staying on Haeckel's heels. Unfortunately for the theosophists, the gambit failed when continental drift made the assumption of a Lemurian continent unnecessary.

Never the less, near the turn of the century, somebody (I forget who) wrote a book called "A Dweller on Two Planets", which was influenced by theosophy. "A Dwerller on Two Planets" is the mother of the Mt. Shasta mythology, which included 3-eyed sages left over from Blavatsky's Third Root Race living within caverns on the mountain which were supposedly full of mummies and gold.

that would explain why all the stories i've heard about mt. shasta were stories about gold...i always just thought it was because mt. shasta was in cali.

I did a quick search for-- Mt. Shasta, Monster --and found a couple threads. Here is one of them. Traveler to the Interior of the Hollow Earth
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Here is a quote from near the end of the first post in this thread.

"On the surface, capabilities to experience this infinite power are more easily awakened at such portals as Mt. Shasta which serves as a space time portal directly to the Inner Earth. Once in the surroundings of Mt. Shasta you are drawn into the ?rmonious state?In my experiences at Mt. Shasta the Telosians are projecting an aura of great harmony in a lovely atmosphere."

I found all three pages immensely interesting.
Want a good chuckle? Go to page 3 of that thread and read the first post you see by Crakeur. This is one of the best theories concerning the earth's rotation that I have ever seen.

Originally posted by rawiea

Want a good chuckle? Go to page 3 of that thread and read the first post you see by Crakeur. This is one of the best theories concerning the earth's rotation that I have ever seen.

LOL!!!

That is the best explanation I have ever read. Makes more sense than some of the other theories posted here.

Originally posted by The VagabondThis was promoted by a German evolutionist named Ernst Haeckel (spelling?) whose career was characterized by backing the wrong theories (often in contradiction of Darwin) and at least once falsifying research.

In defense of Haeckle, he didn't commit fraud.

Haeckle is 'infamous' in some circles because of a series of drawings he did that demonstrated the similiarities between early fetal forms in different species. The 'fraud' complaint comes from the fact that he edited some of the drawings in a way that emphasized the similarities. He didn't create structures that weren't there or anything like that. And, most importantly, the similarities were in fact there.

Haeckle is also the guy from whom we get the toungue twister 'Ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny'. Thats the 'discredited' theory that you might be thinking of. Basically, Haeckle felt that organisms, in the womb, developing into a 'mature' or at least birth ready form, were repeating the stages of their evolution, that development operated bascially be going thru those stages, adding on the later advances at the end of one stage and starting another. Not fully formed obvously tho, but that the fetus would go thru something like a fish stage, then the more advanced reptillian stage and features would come into play, etc etc. Not entirely wrong, but generally wrong. There was a guy named Von Baer who got it right, noting that organs in development do indeed resemble each other, but not because evolution is repeating itself. Von Baer, interestingly, was not a darwinist, whereas Haeckle was.

I don't recall Haeckle being a big proponent of land bridges, at least not more so than other scientists of his day. Then again, Haeckle was extremely popuar in germany, he was a big populizer of science, so he probably made statements about all sorts of things.