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Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Originally posted by riley
Where could he operate it from?
you beat me to it riley!
Let me make sure I understand teh terms defined in your analogy.
Computer program= The whole universe
Computer program code= The laws of physics and math
Now since God is operating "outside" of this program(this huge huge universe that is EVERYTHING..) and is "bigger" than this program...where's he at?
Also, if you ever done programming you'll know that its very hard to change something that "redefines" the rules. You have to pretty much go thru every peice of code to make sure everything is consistent. So if god decided to change 1+1=3 I think we'd KNOW.
Originally posted by I_s_i_s
Now since God is operating "outside" of this program(this huge huge universe that is EVERYTHING..) and is "bigger" than this program...where's he at?
Katun A Mayan term which refers to epochs or periods of time, and also to regions or Heavens. The Thirteen Katuns are..
"..thirteen periods of time for each human race. Obviously, the prophecies for each one of the past Katuns of our Aryan Root Race were exactly fulfilled. Presently, we are approaching the Thirteenth Katun. The Mayas say that between the years 2040 and 2043, the Thirteenth Katun will enter into activity. The great catastrophe that will destroy this present humanity, which lives on the five continents of the world, will occur during the Thirteenth Katun...
"Ain, Ain Soph, Ain Soph Aur.
"Kether, Chokmah, Binah, Chesed, Geburah, Tiphereth, Netzach, Hod, Yesod, Malkuth.
"These are the thirteen Aeons or supra-sensible atomic Regions, which are mutually penetrating and co-penetrating without confusion. The Unmanifested Absolute is beyond these thirteen Aeons." - from The Pistis Sophia Unveiled
...The Absolute, the Ain Soph, is that which is. It has no center or circumference. We have to use our intuition in order to comprehend it...
...Adi Buddha is the name for it in Sanskrit. The Adi Buddha does not exist, the Adi Buddha IS.
Ain Soph has no beginning and no end.
Everything from it has a beginning and an end.
Ain Soph Aur = Ray of Okidanokh
The first Creation in the same Absolute. Also perfect, but not abstract.
The Ain Soph Aur is a Circle of Light, with its center everywhere, and circumference nowhere (use intuition!)...
TEHUTI (Chokmah)
TREE OF LIFE MEDITATION SYSTEM (TOLM), Pg. 119
Avoiding and resolving conflicts is one of the chief functions of Tehuti, the faculty of wisdom. It is the total antithesis of the intellect. While the latter derives its information from Man's worldly experiences, the wisdom faculty gets its knowledge from God dwelling in Man's spirit. In other words, for wisdom to manifest itself, we must shut down our intellectual and imaginative thought processes, in order to receive the intuition from God, dwelling within. In this state where there are no thoughts, consciousness enters into the same state of Hetep (Nirvana) as described by the ogdoad. There are, therefore, no thoughts as in the syllogistic logical process that we can follow. All that can be given are instructions leading to the shutting down of the thought processes making the mind blank, Satori which is the requirement for the functioning of the wisdom faculty. Since this faculty is not really of Man, but belongs to God dwelling in one's spirit, the procedure can be explained as the stilling of the thought processes of the intellect and the imagination, in order to receive instructions from God. It is of interest to note that the 'Hu' in Tehuti is the mantra (word of power) of the wisdom goddess Chinnamasta of Black India (Indus Kush), and of the Guru (wisdom) chakra. It operates by suppressing the formation of thought processes by cutting the mind off from the senses. This ties in with Kamitic spiritual science. 'Hu' is metaphorized as Ptah's tongue which utters the word of power that initiates the process of creation. It is also the 'deity' of the senses, in which capacity it plays the same role as the mantra Hu(ng) of the Guru chakra. In other words, to shut the mind down, it must be cut off from its ports (the senses) to the outside world. This is of course, a brief account of the process. The most important point to understand is that ultimately, the most important part of the deity's name is 'Hu,' understood not as a word with meaning, but as the word of power which leads to the manifestation of wisdom in the initiate.
© Ra Un Nefer Amen
Who do we know that does not keep his word? Satan.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
In other words, can God be God if He sins?
Would you want a God that sins? God WILL not break a promise. That might be a better way of saying it.
However, if you're looking for simple paradoxes along those lines, how about the ol' stanby from seminary school; can God create a boulder that even He cannot lift?
Originally posted by jake1997
Bones in the human body.
Adams bones, - 1 rib, = Eve.
I didnt see that as cause for insults.
How is it that you have so much hate, and cannot stay away from the thing you hate most?
Originally posted by HIFIGUY
The mere fact that you are alive, means something, someone, somewhere decided that despite the labor and work of being on, its still better then being off.
For those of you that think there isnt a God, and believe we evolved, then theres another arguement. If we evolved totally. And there was no God, for us to create a God when there wasnt, probably means there is a God.
For me its not a question. But man thinks that his peanut inquest into knowledge is challenging to the Almighty is a joke at best.
So in asking whether God is all powerfull, ask yourself, would you be able to interpret what all powerfull is?Just what is all powerfull? There isnt a single person in this forum that could discredit all powerfull for they would have to have the knowledge to validate if indeed he was? Weve already shown that time is different in space in different applications. So considering that time is an increment in quantity, then is quantity really quantity? Think about it. Time is path.
Make the moon rotate. Oops, can do it you say?
Remember that tree of knowledge I told you not to eat from? Looks like your eating plenty.
Do you beleive Im God yet? Reply...Nope....Well, the ship leaves in 5 minutes. Its parked behind the moon.
Originally posted by cheeser
Suppose God is all-powerful.
Then God can create a rock he cannot lift.
God cannot lift the rock.
Thus, God is not all-powerful.
Originally posted by dbrandt
Originally posted by cheeser
Suppose God is all-powerful.
Then God can create a rock he cannot lift.
God cannot lift the rock.
Thus, God is not all-powerful.
Can God create a situation in which He would cease to be God?
The answer-NO!