Imagine how it feels

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Nah, I’m definitely thinking of Jimmy Carter. It was some coke scandal within his administration, nothing to do with him personally, just to be clear.

originally posted by: JadedGhost
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Nah, I’m definitely thinking of Jimmy Carter. It was some coke scandal within his administration, nothing to do with him personally, just to be clear.

You're thinking of Jimmy's Brother Billy Carter Billy Goat 😄

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I will never forget the moment on the stage during the Trump debate when we saw the REAL Joe Biden. It was when Biden snarled..."You're the Sucker! You're the Loser!!! (GRRRR!!)"...at Trump. He'd canned that remark prior to the debate, his coaches telling him to be angry at Trump, and this was his moment.

Unfortunately, this "meanness" makes traditional Republicans wet their pants and go quiet.

Any "wins" Democrats have had over Republicans since 2009 has been due to GOP wimpiness. Not due to shrewd smart Democrat ideas.

originally posted by: rickymouse
I was only making only three thirty an hour working at a flooring mill, but rent was less than a hundred twenty five a month including utilities for a two bedroom house on the lakeshore.

I really feel sorry for this generation, no more two burgers for a buck at burger king or ninety nine cent big fish sandwiches

Nice story BTW. Why do you feel sorry for them? Looking back on the SS site here is what I made from 78 to 84 when I finally broke 10k...lol Gas prices around a buck plus were painful. My rent for a 2 bedroom apt was about 300. I had roommates until my 30s when I finally made enough money for the luxury to live on my own.


1984 $10,046
1983 $8,605
1982 $7,975
1981 $6,595
1980 $6,925
1979 $7,952

The difference is we couldn't afford extra expenses, so we didn't have all the added costs people today see as a necessity. I have played the game of a "living wage" over and over on this site and no one would want to play. The game is not what a living wage is, but what is a living cost. No one wants to do those numbers because they would see that they can live in 15 an hour with little effort.

I might have eaten out once a month and then it was a pizza or burrito 10 pack from Taco Bell. I would get to about 3 days before payday with 10 bucks left and decide what to do with it as in I keep it for gas or get food. I ate a lot of Mac and Cheese, hamburger helper, chilli etc...anything that was cheap and would last a while over a bunch of meals. My goto was a big can of tomato soup with a can of tuna in it and lemon pepper with a 1/2 loaf of bread.

Do you remember driving across states and your only source of entertainment was counting the mile markers...lol No, I don't have pity for the youth of today.

a reply to: Xtrozero

This...

I might have eaten out once a month and then it was a pizza or burrito 10 pack from Taco Bell. I would get to about 3 days before payday with 10 bucks left and decide what to do with it as in I keep it for gas or get food. I ate a lot of Mac and Cheese, hamburger helper, chilli etc...anything that was cheap and would last a while over a bunch of meals. My goto was a big can of tomato soup with a can of tuna in it and lemon pepper with a 1/2 loaf of bread

You now have 2 generations that were raised on nothing but eating out and fast food. I have taught all of my kids to cook and how to stock and how to be ready to eat when a big bill or something happens.

We live in a ultra-consumer society now. Insta and Uber not Ramen are the staples and then complain about not making a living wage.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: rickymouse
I was only making only three thirty an hour working at a flooring mill, but rent was less than a hundred twenty five a month including utilities for a two bedroom house on the lakeshore.

I really feel sorry for this generation, no more two burgers for a buck at burger king or ninety nine cent big fish sandwiches

Nice story BTW. Why do you feel sorry for them? Looking back on the SS site here is what I made from 78 to 84 when I finally broke 10k...lol Gas prices around a buck plus were painful. My rent for a 2 bedroom apt was about 300. I had roommates until my 30s when I finally made enough money for the luxury to live on my own.


1984 $10,046
1983 $8,605
1982 $7,975
1981 $6,595
1980 $6,925
1979 $7,952

The difference is we couldn't afford extra expenses, so we didn't have all the added costs people today see as a necessity. I have played the game of a "living wage" over and over on this site and no one would want to play. The game is not what a living wage is, but what is a living cost. No one wants to do those numbers because they would see that they can live in 15 an hour with little effort.

I might have eaten out once a month and then it was a pizza or burrito 10 pack from Taco Bell. I would get to about 3 days before payday with 10 bucks left and decide what to do with it as in I keep it for gas or get food. I ate a lot of Mac and Cheese, hamburger helper, chilli etc...anything that was cheap and would last a while over a bunch of meals. My goto was a big can of tomato soup with a can of tuna in it and lemon pepper with a 1/2 loaf of bread.

Do you remember driving across states and your only source of entertainment was counting the mile markers...lol No, I don't have pity for the youth of today.

When we went on trips with the parents when I was young. We counted bugs in the distance. Ugga Bugga blue meant a blue volkswagon coming was blue. We looked at the clouds out the windows, looking for shaped ones like cars, faces, and all sorts of images they looked like. It did not require internet service or a cell phone.

We would go on trips to other states, from the U.P of Michigan to Mount rushmore with a big thing strapped to the roof of the car containing the tent, clothes, and sleeping bags. Back then there were all sorts of parks that were free in the sixties. We had a camp stove, cooler full of foods in the trunk, and we stopped at roadside parks to cook meals. Once in a while we ate at a truckstop...best meals in the world at those places for cheap back then. If there were a lot of semis there, that was a sign the food was good. Since most of the campsites did not have showers we would stop at a strip motel and stay every so often, usually just swimming in a lake at a campsite to get clean with a bar of soap most nights. No phone, no internet, how did we survive. No apps to tell us what road to go on, just picked up a free map at the gas station when we got into a new state. Funny we never got lost without technology. WLS in Chicago was what us kids liked to listen too.

Instead of wireless headphones at night hooked to our cell phone I had a a Sony transistor radio I would put under my pillow at night...no boom boxes yet, that Sony Radio I bought with money I made from the strawberry field I still have yet, but have not tried to see if it works anymore. I used it for maybe twenty years before abandoning it at my mothers house, she kept it and I found it when my mother died and we cleaned out all the junk. That radio was better sounding than the radios these days...I think I paid thirty five bucks for that back then.

To learn to fix things, we had to talk to others who worked in a field and help them to fix things to learn how to diagnose and fix things. No You tube videos, no paying for training, just helping others and learning from what they knew. How did I pass my Mechanic tests with a free class from community schools in eighty four? All free, even the test was free. Just had to pay nine bucks or so for the certification to work in the state. Never worked as a Mechanic, just fixed my own and friends cars. I took the test the day my oldest daughter was born, May thirteenth, nineteen eighty one. Rushed to take the tests an hour late, but did not have time to finish the easiest test, so I was not a master Mechanic, needed the third one to have that classification.

I used to get paid to learn stuff, I did not have to pay to get experience after I dropped out of Pre-med in college. I would not have even have had to pay anything for medical school if I stayed in, I knew a guy who was on the board of the AMA and he said he would get my education paid for if I came to Gary Indiana where he lived, the Fonz's uncle. I could stay in his guest home on his estate and do groundswork to earn money but I would have to go on hunting trips and fishing trips with him...met him in Alaska at an outdoor all you can eat salmon dinner, then he came over and we went bird hunting with him and his guys he had with him. They rented a motor home.

But I had recognized corruption in the medical industry, and I did not want to stay in med school, I was in it to help others, not to get prestige and wealth...I felt I could get corrupted because I was not strong enough to resist their teaching so quit.

In seventy nine and eighty, I was making seven thirty an hour working in the foundry at Kohler...usually ten hours a day for five days and sometimes another eight hours on Saturday too. Good paying job, way more than I could make in the U.P.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Yeah, when it comes to hoorible things said by a President about the opposition, Biden always tops the list.

(end sarcasm)

Biden does this out of pure spite. Trump does it in response to their always drawing first blood, so to speak.

originally posted by: matafuchs

We live in a ultra-consumer society now. Insta and Uber not Ramen are the staples and then complain about not making a living wage.

People don't know how long a 50 pound bag of rice and Costco chicken with herbs and spices last...lol