The Carpet Coating that Attacked the Environment

I live near Dalton Georgia in the USA. Famous as the carpet capitol of the world.

Having revealed that, this area is inudated by lawyers and lawsuits about this very carpet. The city is suing the carpet makers. The carpet makers are suing the chemical companies. The lawyers are wanting everyone to get in on it down to the farmers and residences so they can make as much as they can for themselves.

What am I talking about you ask? Stainblocker, Scotchgard and other brand names. A chemical spray that is or was applied to carpet after dying it then heatset in a dryer. It leaves the fibers coated with a chemical similar to Teflon. It is stain and oil resistant.

It worked. It kept carpets looking pretty longer. It is all over the land and water in this area as TFAS, forever chemicals. It doesn't break down in the environment unless it is burned from what I have read.

Now, how did it get spread out from the carpet mills you ask? Down the drain. Cleanup of the machinery and production areas involved washing it down the drain. From there it went to several water treatment systems. It was processed with the rest of the sewer water.

When sewage water is processed, you get sludge build up in settling tanks, this is the solid matter left after the bacteria eats the organics. This sludge is removed from these tanks and needs to be disposed of.

Where do you get rid of most likely millions of tons of sweage sluge every year, you spray it on land and give it to farmers as fertilizer. Not for growing human food but for growing animal feed. This is called land application.

Think about it. Chemical specifically designed to block things from getting wet from oil and water. And now they are trying to start cleaning it up. They are sueing each other over who pays for it.

My question is how exactly do you clean up forever microplastics that don't mix with other chemicals but are in the land and water.

Sorry that this is turning into a rant. I need to get it out. The lawsuits don't go into these details and explanations but I will provide some links below.

How do I know all this? I worked in a carpet mill for 10 years in the late 80s and early 90s. I was involved in every process in dying the carpet at some point. I put some of that stuff on the carpet.

With all the lawsuits going on, I have just one question? What is being done to remove the carpet in all the homes, offices, businesses, hotels, etc.... It was shipped world wide. No lawsuit even mentions that at all.

The microscopic particles of this stuff has to be flung up into the air evertime it is vacuumed by a brush attachment. Right through the filter if it is not a HEPA filter. And even HEPA filters will pass the nano particles.

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Just google 'TFAS chemicals Dalton Georgia' for more stories.

If we - as in people - start suing every chemical producer on the planet, it's going to be a long ride. The products used in our homes, our business, our life styles etc. are full of forever toxic particles and spread throughout the land. It would be forever in courts as there's a lot of # we've produced over decades that is now considered toxic. I also believe it's why the USA has some of the highest cancer rates as well as a multitude of other ailments and other illnesses that other countries aren't so privy to.

It's a good time to change. I realized we can't get back to the horse and buggy days, but back to basics we should try to go. It will never be the same as less destructive times and we can't undo a lot of the damage. All we can do is go forward with less damage. Suing isn't the answer imho. And quite frankly, the government is largely at fault here. The EPA and FDA and all the other 'protection' agencies had their hands in the cookie jar while they looked the other way. And quite frankly, we know more now than we did.

We need a less synthetic world, a slower world and a less material world. Basically a simpler world. We'd all be better off.

It's a forever chemical, it will remain in the environment for many years till it is broken down. We are talking many decades of half life.

They were pushing people to use the sewer sludge that had been dired here for fertilizer for their yards. Yeah sure, I was never that dumb to use that. Cosmetics have plastics in them, and products containing plasticizers in them are flushed down the drains from many sources. I know someone who works at a huge sewage plant in Arizona, they make the processed sludge into compost she said...and sell it to companies that add it to soil or make mulch out of it to sell. I said I try to get organic soil and addatives, she laughed, she said half the trucks coming in are organic companies.

So I guess it is legal to call it organic topsoil...she is one of the heads of the plant there, or should I say was since she retired a few years ago. Who do you believe? She said she is not supposed to tell anyone about who is buying it too, so I could not have said much about this till after she retired.

It is not just going into animal feed, and even if it is in animal feed, it builds up in animals and we eat those animals that are eating that plastic. It is bioactive in our metabolism even if we consume meat with plastic in it.

Not trying to fear monger, just trying to make people aware of things that we cannot control.

Look up about what they found out about commercial tea bags we make tea out of...the majority of them contain plastics and there is up to eight million microplastic particles in a big cup of tea. That research has just been completed, and it is extremely bioactive in the gut through the mucous cells and even winds up in the mitochondria and also goes into the blood. Plastic is everywhere these days.

a reply to: StoutBroux

I was getting a card from a lawfirm every other day or a while. Now only every week or two. Test your land and water to see if you are contaminated. My house is on a hill and I don't get water from that creek below. The there are two vallies between me and the huge land application facility. Run off and prevailing wind is favorable for me to be safe.

I think if I don't drink the creek water or eat the dirt in the valley where the creek is I will be ok from most of this one.

Oh, as for the simple life, most would die of injury in a few days of being like 100 years ago.

a reply to: StoutBroux

If we all started suing the chemical companies, that would just drive up prices of everything...the money going to lawyers and a few pennies on the dollar going to the people who sue.

It would take many trillion dollars to go back to putting all things in glass and metal cans lined with zinc again instead of plastic lined. With the carpets, they would just invent another chemistry that has not been proven to be bad for the health yet because it has not yet been tested to show it is harmful. Lots of chemicals are approved for use that have not been properly tested for safety for the environment or for use in our human environment long term...just look at polyurethanes, heat from burning or sitting in the hot sun causes toxins to be given off. I know some firemen who were called to a house where a small fire in the bathroom contacted polyurethane and the people were found dead in the bedroom twenty feet away.

PFAS are just one tiny link in the chain of chemicals that are destroying our health.

This onslught chemical polution is far more detrimental to the survival of the human race than global warming, IMO. Maybe that's why they make such a big deal out of climate change; so nobody will focus on the real issue that is the bread and butter for the wealthy; their Golden Goose.

Couple PFAS with all of the chemicals in the food chain and we are living in a toxic environment and ingesting a soup of poisons.

The dangers of these chemicals were known before they ever started being used en masse, yet corporate greed and government corruption kicked the can down the road.

With rising health issues like heart disease and cancer directly linked to PFAS along with rapidly dropping birth rates we are aproaching a tipping point; a point of no return.

The ocean is in serious danger from all the polution, and if the ocean dies mankind dies. Only the fittest will survive, and it will be a very meager existance.

a reply to: nugget1

Pretty much.

It’s always greenhouse gasses, carbon emission and climate change.

Never a nod to rampant pollution, chemical or otherwise.

a reply to: nugget1

I think a big clue about who is creating a lot of the problems came from the food industry complaining that the Trump appointies might ban a lot of chemical additives like in Europe. Many of the same companies make the food without anywhere near as many chemicals over there, why not here?

originally posted by: BeyondKnowledge3
a reply to: nugget1

I think a big clue about who is creating a lot of the problems came from the food industry complaining that the Trump appointies might ban a lot of chemical additives like in Europe. Many of the same companies make the food without anywhere near as many chemicals over there, why not here?

Corporate and political greed. They've known since the 1960's that chemicals being used in farming and industry were poluting the environment and affecting the health of people, yet turned a blind eye and kept kicking the can down the road.

originally posted by: SteamyAmerican
a reply to: nugget1

Pretty much.

It’s always greenhouse gasses, carbon emission and climate change.

Never a nod to rampant pollution, chemical or otherwise.

They act like the declining birth rate world wide is some big mystery, but it's not. Science has proven micro-plastics settle in the reproductrive tract of humans and animals along with settling in every other organ and system in our bodies, completelty disrupting any balance.

The huma body is under attach. Science knows it; worls leaders know it and politicians know it. To ignore it completely as we've seen makes one give serious consideration to the 'conspiracy' theory of a depopulation agenda.
We're nearly 9 billion people on this planet. The Georgia Guidestones called for humanity to be maintained at no more than 500 million people.