They Know

a reply to: awhispersecho

That's my exact point... our leaders don't react that way because they've been dealing with this phenomenon a very long time and they know exactly what it is.

a reply to: awhispersecho

it's Project Blue Beam.

No. If it was they would be using more realistic looking alien craft so the people would have no mistake as to what they are.

a reply to: alldaylong

Very good point, they wouldn't be blurry orbs of light. I probably see a lot more of this stuff because I browse through Reddit most days and Reddit seems to know I like UFO videos so I get loads of them. But I've never seen them in such high numbers before, it's kind of mind blowing how many people are seeing them. It's at a point where the US government is forced to provide statements on the situation every day, but it's always the same old deflection. Hopefully some time soon humanity will know the truth... because I fear whatever the alternative is.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: CarlLaFong


My suspicion is, these 'drones' which have been sighted off the east and west coasts are more of the same types of black projects, but if this is true whomever is doing the testing is getting sloppy keeping them secret.

Not sloppy.
I think we want a current enemy to KNOW we possess this tech right now.
Probably a message to Russia, regarding hyper-sonics.

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

This is about the best close up I’ve seen of the Jersey drones. Most, not all of the closer video’s I’ve seen there’s some navigational lighting. Some I can only see white and red, some white and green, some all red, some with both and some that look just white, some are strobes and blinking some not.




Watch this vid you can clearly see they have multi configurations of beacons and strobes. I think the lighting can change configuration and color remotely. Most of these recently seen drones have navigational lighting.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Could be.

The other angle is possibly using some new drone technology to test and identify potential exploits on American infrastructure. In other words...'okay, you say you've protected your facility, but here's what we found!' Kind of like pen-testing except with physical assets.

a reply to: CarlLaFong

Man I love these elaborate explanations... if that's what helps you sleep at night.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

I mean... that first image is clearly a helicopter.

EDIT: oh the little blue light... eh... could be a lot of things.

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
They’re not alien and if they are…..I’m sure the FAA appreciates them being compliant to FAA navigation lighting regulations although they may not be perfectly located. I think that’s a dead giveaway that they’re ours. I’m going with this is a military exercise of some sort.

What's cool, is that our drones apparently have the ability to drain batteries and kill electronics on the ground, while also distorting their own GPS signatures.

Yeah, that to me is one of the stranger aspects of all this. I’ve heard different stories and it’s fairly strange, they’re intelligent with some cool swag accessories.

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder
a reply to: KrustyKrab

I mean... that first image is clearly a helicopter.

EDIT: oh the little blue light... eh... could be a lot of things.

Nope, not a heli, I saw another angle of that shot sequence and it’s definitely not a heli. I think what makes it look a bit heli-ish is what looks to be landing gear of sorts. Don’t hold me to it though

a reply to: ChaoticOrder

Good OP.

You are somewhat mixing two topics however. Yea, there's the genuine "UFO"s that exhibit the traditional characteristics of Extraterrestrial craft, sudden acceleration to impossible speeds, appearing out of nowhere, then disappearing into nowhere, 90 degree turns at Mach 8, no obvious means of propulsion, etc. There may well be some recent sightings of these....I haven't kept up with this type UFO activity.

Then......there's this "drone" phenomenon. Some of these craft are reported to appear and sound like normal commercial drones; some are much larger and sound more like the conventional helicopter. Their movements appear to be synchronized...sometimes at least. They hover for over an hour in the same place, etc. These are the type phenomenon being reported over NJ and NY and the Naval bases in VA. They are clearly NOT extraterrestrial in origin; they're man-made.

Considering the proximity to military installations and the fact that the military has taken no defensive moves whatsoever, it's pretty obvious that these "drones" are US made and manufactured and are the property of the Military themselves. The most logical answer is that they're testing and rehearsing drone capabilities for future deployment in either Ukraine or the Middle East.

The "Government" (Political) doesn't know what's going on. The "Government", (Deep State/Pentagon) isn't talking and won't because as far as they're concerned, they don't owe us or anyone else an explanation. And it's very possible that these drone technologies are so deeply embedded in the SAP quagmire that even the Pentagon is out of the loop.

And all of this "drone" technology demonstrates one clear and present danger. It's in our face. It's in the Politicians face. It's in the Pentagon's face......all entirely ignorant as to the "source" of these machines; all entirely ignorant as to who's operating these machines. It's also probable that their being directed and based on US Military facilities and even the "Brass", (much less the grunts) don't know who's behind this. All they know is that a patch of the Base, operated by someone as a "Dark" site, as appropriated by some "Special Branch" is being used to conduct these operations. And the "Brass" can't even acknowledge that!

So quite clearly, the "Deep State" is accountable to absolutely no one, much less Congressman "Drivel" from BFE Iowa.

All of which raises an interesting question.........will even "Trump" be able to bring the Deep State to heel? I seriously doubt it.

a reply to: Cvastar

If the US government could identify them, they would say so, and if they were simple man made drones that would be easy. Yes, you are right, there are many man made drones in the sky, especially these days, and I often see a lot of crap footage which is clearly just a plane or helicopter. However, in the last month or two, I'm also seeing a huge amount of footage which I cannot easily explain, and neither can the government apparently.

A lot of people seem to be downplaying the importance of that, but it is important. These are not craft made by us, and if they are, you need to explain why they are appearing all over the place, and how they achieve the speeds and maneuvers they achieve. I'll say it again... this is not a new phenomena, it has been reported by humans for literally hundreds, if not thousands, of years. Perhaps one day we will accept their presence.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: CarlLaFong

Could be.

The other angle is possibly using some new drone technology to test and identify potential exploits on American infrastructure. In other words...'okay, you say you've protected your facility, but here's what we found!' Kind of like pen-testing except with physical assets.

Consider 'The Shell Game' strategy.
20 untrackable drones above your city/Which one has the suitcase nuke on board?

a reply to: ChaoticOrder
I am sure the governments know what these things are-but they sure seem to like looking completely incompetent and stupid by telling people a wide range of nonsense-Admiral Kirby says they are regular aeroplanes,others say Iran,now today this UK Intel guy is claiming its was Russia!
And they want to do it again..

Although those behind the mystery drone sightings have not been formally identified, intelligence analysts from both the US and UK have pointed the finger at Russian despot Vladimir Putin.
And, chillingly, a retired British spymaster has today said Kremlin intelligence services were potentially gearing up for a fresh wave of incursions into UK airspace.
Philip Ingram, a former British military intelligence Colonel, said the sightings had 'all the hallmarks' of an operation by Russia's secretive GRU spy agency

www.dailymail.co.uk...

They just can't seem to get their story straight.
Way to look like a bunch of blithering idiots guys!

At this point I would love it to be actual sophisticated aliens about to overthrow our goon filled governments for our own good.
That would be great.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Definitely a helo. I can see the enclosed tail rotor and one of the skids. Give me a few and I can probably even give the make and model. Looks like a small experimental of some type. Now, that said, it could still be some sort of an autonomous vehicle, but it's definitely a helo.

I'm not saying they're all helos, and this would make sense, but that first picture is definitely a helo. The reason I would say it makes sense is because there's likely one control point local to the group. The rest are networked off of that point. This last part is speculation on my part, but that would be my take.

After nearly a century of denying UFO's exist there seems to be a massive public push to convince us they do. When the gov. does an about face like this you can bet it's agenda driven.

We have become a highly divided and fear-driven society that has transfered the control of our lives to the government and its regulations; the two main ingredients needed for ultimate control.

Let's not forget the march towards a One World Government. The majority of humanity is vehemently opposed, but under an existential threat from a hostile extraterestrial army people would change their stance in a heartbeat.

Whenever the gov. tries to hand out a new belief system you can bet the underlying motives are money and power.

a reply to: nugget1
Exactly Nugget.
They are trying to willfuly destroy our society and lock us down into a net zero authoritarian WEF nightmare while the secret elite have most likley been sitting on alien tech for decades.
Had they released the truth,science may well have unlocked the secrets to unlimited free energy by now instead we are looking at a sick dystopian future ruled by soulless evil ones who treat us worse than cattle.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: KrustyKrab

Definitely a helo. I can see the enclosed tail rotor and one of the skids. Give me a few and I can probably even give the make and model. Looks like a small experimental of some type. Now, that said, it could still be some sort of an autonomous vehicle, but it's definitely a helo.

I'm not saying they're all helos, and this would make sense, but that first picture is definitely a helo. The reason I would say it makes sense is because there's likely one control point local to the group. The rest are networked off of that point. This last part is speculation on my part, but that would be my take.

I can see that too but… the other pics I saw of that particular event didn’t look like a heli, didn’t look like a quad copter drone either. You could be right about them being a heli that’s unmanned. I know the military has heli drones.

There’s so much footage out there that it’s difficult to keep up with them all.

The puzzling part of all of these drone sightings is, small drones just don't have trans-oceanic range, or even mid triple digit range, not battery operated ones though. And, if they're not battery operated, then there would be a big heat signature and a lot of audible noise down low like that. Sure, UAV's like the Global Hawk have trans-oceanic range, but Global Hawk can't move in directions other than forward (i.e. it can't move up, down and sideways). Plus, the faster a vehicle can change directions, the more powerful propulsion it needs, which translates into significantly larger fuel requirements and both noise and heat signatures. These drones seem to be defying some of these rules...OR, they're really not defying any of these rules and they're locally based to where they're being observed and we, the people, are just being lied to by our government.

I am inclined to believe it is the latter of the two, and I believe this for a couple reasons:

1. A significant hazard to aviation like that would be thoroughly investigated using numerous technologies (i.e. thermal, RF, audio and ELINT). "We don't have any idea what it is"...simply wouldn't cut it (at all) for an explanation. Additionally, multiple agencies would be investigating at the local, State and Federal level. This wouldn't just get some casual pass and shoulder shrug as a response (like it's getting).

2. In order to operate these vehicles and not pose a significant aviation hazard, these operations would need to be coordinated with agencies such as the FAA and others to avoid midair incidents. Operators would also need to know where to to operate; in other words, what areas would have the least traffic.

3. Because these sightings are taking place at night, it's a pretty sure bet someone (some "earthling") is trying to keep something secret. If this was E.T. visiting Earth, he wouldn't be worried about day or night; he'd just show up. So, it's definitely not E.T.

The explanation given by federal authorities to date is unacceptable and quite frankly, it's insulting.

They need to explain this, and they need to do it soon. I can tell you one thing, the airlines have not been informed what these things are, and you can tell this because commercial airline pilots wouldn't be reporting this stuff if there were NOTAMs issued for it. That, and ATC would be referring pilots to the subject NOTAM even if they were.