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Traveling the world with no passport

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posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 02:49 AM
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This is interesting a guy from New Zealand, Gets on his boat who's flag was issued by King William of England that gave the right to the tribes of New Zealand to travel as sovereign citizens wherever they wanted. On first thought one would think good luck with that. But apparently, he has already sailed from New Zealand to the UK and is now completing the next half of the circumnavigation.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 03:28 AM
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a reply to: annonentity

Yeah? Well, just wait until some Somali pirates capture his ass and hold him and his boat ransom; I'll bet he'll cut all the sovereign citizen crap and magically find his passport lickety-split and instantly become a flag waving New Zealander!! Good luck trying to explain all that sovereign citizen rigamarole to those back-asswards savages; they don't give a sh!t about any of that stuff!



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 04:37 AM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
I thought exactly the same!🤣
...I haven't watched the YouTube though, I got bored with the 'sovereign citizen' # years ago, because not one single claim has ever been successful.

Just pipe dreams of crazy cranks lol



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 06:06 AM
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English royalty giving Freedom of, usually land, to commoners. For instance, Elizabeth I giving Freedom of the Common in Perpetuity to the gypsy family who helped her whilst she was incarcerated at Ashridge.

I'd like to see written historical record of Freedom of the Oceans and how this was granted and for what reason/s. Not going to bother watching the video because one man's take on what this actually is or means does not satisfy my curiosity or need for factual information in support.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 06:16 AM
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Too long to watch an not really interested in those two blokes, but from what I glimpsed is that he talked himself out of an encounter with Thai authorities and some place in India. Hardly proof of anything imho. Of course I might have missed some info.
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posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: annonentity

It seems easy enough to apply for emergency travel papers. I just went through most of the process to test how easy it would be. My journey would have taken me by sea on a two month voyage here to the UK. I got as far as being told where to go to pick up the documents. That is the proof that passports aren't a legal necessity for travel.

The rule-stickers often get very emotional when you point out it's all made up, and you can make up your own counter-version, which they have to engage with.

This is really about the difference between those whose find security in dominant rules and those who find security in throwing themselves to the winds of destiny.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 12:12 PM
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I remember reading a book years ago, sell up and sail it was called.
There was a neat little passage about the trouble that one of the authors had trying to explain to the tax man that he was emigrating. They couldn't understand how he could emigrate but not to anywhere.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 03:31 PM
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a reply to: TimBurr

That's all fine and good if your time and effort means nothing to you. Getting caught up in hours, days, weeks and months of a bunch of legal red tape is all fine...so long as you just don't have anything else to do in your life, but sit on a boat and...wait.

Me? Well, it's never been that much of a hassle. However, I do agree with the guy's covid posture, but that doesn't have anything to do with a passport or any other travel document. So, I'm not sure I understand his anger, or if he just used that as the platform to announce his sovereign citizen crusade.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The flag in question is seen flying at many places if you travel around NZ , especially up north where the main trading centers were set up during the early days. An awareness seems to be spreading that a Government and agencies registered as a Corporation in Wall street does not have a lot to do with the problems of daily living of ordinary folk. Hence the kickback.As far as the pacific peoples are concerned their is already a treaty that allows them to continue their customary rights without hassle, and why not they were going inter island long before the colonizer's were a thing. Who needs permision to travel as a free person ,its only recently immigration seems to have become a thing , it isnt like you are going to stay as you only want to travel through without getting hasseled.
There is already provision for a sailor to land anywhere if it concerns the safety of the vessel and crew, they might need water a food. Infact a lot of places give you twenty four hours to register, which means disembarking and finding the relative office in town.Just to ask for permission to do what you already have done, and pay for the privilege.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: annonentity

Funny the idea of one authority, supersedes another authority, therefore ...

Personal sovereignty needs no exterior "authority."

Won't stop uniformed goons from stomping you though.

"We stomp you under the authority of the King."
See how silly that sounds ?




posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 07:58 PM
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a reply to: annonentity

Lemme' tell ya' what a 'sailor' with no documentation is gonna' get if he comes into coastal waters in the United States. He's gonna' get food alright, and he's also gonna' get rest (but not on his boat). His vessel is going to be seized, and he'll never see it again. This is why I say he will give a very, very, wide berth to US coastal waters. These guys don't screw around with any of that bullsh!it!

Now, you may say...But, But...Biden lets in millions of illegals. Yep, that sad bastage does exactly that, BUT...the US Coast Guard isn't so nice, and they don't follow his directions. So, what's the difference? This dude has an 84' foot sailing yacht which is a big asset, and something which can be auctioned off...which is exactly what will happen too.

I will bet you an expensive steak and lobster dinner, Mr. sovereign citizen will NOT be making any videos from the US! And, if he does, it will be from jail.



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posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

The USA is a full blown Kleptocracy with the goons getting paid to be Goons, that's why it is failing on every level.It might have had something once. But either way best to be avoided like you say.



posted on Nov, 28 2024 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: annonentity

All we need is a 40ft sailboat each boy's and its freedom and sovereign citizenship all around!

Wayhay.

Crack the Champagne, open another tub of Beluga caviar, and splice the mainbrace!

Ile buy that for a dollar.

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posted on Nov, 29 2024 @ 01:20 AM
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a reply to: annonentity

As a New Zealand resident myself, this whole sovereign citizen is a fantasy.

To quote Monty Python:

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

LOL. The whole idea that governments have to be registered in some corporate office in Wall Street USA is equally farcical.



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