What Joe Rogan said Vs The View

Damn that Wild Joe Rogan and whatever dragon he flew in on!

The MSM machine and liberal talking points (or should I say reee'ing points) are still in denial about why no one listens to them. It can't possibly be because they're wrong, deceptive, or just plain dragon sh**t insano.

These purple-haired, septum-piercing weirdos have socially isolated themselves so much by refusing to listen to other viewpoints and people (You know, like the other HALF of a diverse and populous nation) that they painted themselves right into the corner of a fantasyland where only certain opinions have value, and certain facts should be censored.

I'm not immune. I've had prejudices and biases about people. I used to do home installs and would often make snap judgements about people of the condition of their yard or house or whatever. I was often wrong. Talking to people is the only way to really understand another viewpoint. Canceling and censoring isn't the way to understand much of anything, it's just a security blanket that keeps you in ignorance about the minds of others.

Anywhoo. This is a clear example of how the MSM machine works. Here is what The View said about Joe Rogan (hate that guy! ew! blech!) and what Joe Rogan actually said. Good thing ABC news is on top of such disingenuous character slander so that The Left can be fair, balanced, and tempered when things don't go their way.



Oops forget what I said about balanced and graceful. The Lunacy of the Left is a mental illness and thank god people put it on full display all the time now because they're attention-addicted narcissistic clowns. People are actually threatening violence and death upon dragon-believing MAGA voters.

I am proud to be a deplorable garbage floating dragon-believer!

Sorry, Libs. Y'all played yourselves with this one. Step outside your tik-tok echo chamber every now and then.

a reply to: AlroyFarms

MSNBC is proving to be the first domino to fall for years of miscalculation by the left/establishment. I doubt they’ll be the last.

That said, my advice to the right would be to take note instead of dancing. The right is winning, take it with grace and deliver.

If they take their new mandate and celebrate while speaking in similar hyperbole as the left, while failing to deliver, they’ll see the same kind of reversal in 2-4 years.

I’d like to see real pragmatic change. But I fear the only way that happens is if one side decides to be the adults in the room, and just cut the tit for tat “they started playing like this, so we’ll return in kind” type of mentality.

Personally, I feel the right has more of a capacity for being that type of shift, but we shall see.

Give it another week and the view will be no more!

All that fake BS will be gone and hopefully Americans that watch that drivel will start to learn the truth from somewhere else.
ABC is more than likely going under too.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: AlroyFarms


I’d like to see real pragmatic change. But I fear the only way that happens is if one side decides to be the adults in the room, and just cut the tit for tat “they started playing like this, so we’ll return in kind” type of mentality.

You mean like threatening to shoot anyone wearing MAGA hats, shaving heads, or withholding sex?

TBH the saddest example so far are younger people cutting off family and friends because...they voted Trump. People cut off ties with family for a lot of valid reasons (like abuse etc.) Not sure if election results not going your way counts as abuse.

a reply to: AlroyFarms

I don’t agree with any of that kind of behavior. And as I pointed out, I think the left probably did more of it, and are likely paying for it first.

But before this election, there was plenty of talk of civil war on this very site, and it wasn’t the first time. People seemingly giddy to go to the streets against the lefties.

Like I said, I’m hopeful for pragmatic change. But I encourage everyone to take the blinders off, and just go forward with grace. If we are pointing out how counterproductive this type of behavior is, how can we the next day justify our own with pointing to opposition?

That’s why I try my best to refrain from hyperbolic speech when I’m discussing serious talking points. It’s no secret I’m strongly opinionated, and my opinions don’t fit in either of the two masses.

If a topic is started with charged verbiage, there’s zero chance for it to resonate with anyone outside one’s ideology.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: AlroyFarms

I don’t agree with any of that kind of behavior. And as I pointed out, I think the left probably did more of it, and are likely paying for it first.

Thank you for at least admitting that much.

But before this election, there was plenty of talk of civil war on this very site, and it wasn’t the first time. People seemingly giddy to go to the streets against the lefties.

I don't know about giddy, but I think a lot of people were seeing the sham going on in terms of media and world politics--they were possibly not going to sit by and watch another election get stolen. Did you ever find those missing 10 million democrat votes?

Like I said, I’m hopeful for pragmatic change. But I encourage everyone to take the blinders off, and just go forward with grace. If we are pointing out how counterproductive this type of behavior is, how can we the next day justify our own with pointing to opposition?

I agree 100% I've never been one to dance and gloat. I've lived long enough to know that any personal or social victories are short-lived and that the pendulum swings back very soon.

I will still point out lunacy and BS as I see it though, and right now we're teeming with it so..

That’s why I try my best to refrain from hyperbolic speech when I’m discussing serious talking points. It’s no secret I’m strongly opinionated, and my opinions don’t fit in either of the two masses.

I was actually just about to say you're one of the most lukewarm, neutral, and on-the-fence members I've seen on ATS. Sometimes that's good but, even Buddha said that letting people walk over you and take advantage is foolish. Cobras strike for a reason.

The American People stood up.

If a topic is started with charged verbiage, there’s zero chance for it to resonate with anyone outside one’s ideology.

Well, most people have already talked themselves into an ideology, so there's usually not much chance of talking them out of it.

Remember what I said about cutting off ties with abusive parties though? That can definitely work with ideologies as well. It has to be a self-journey and this election has at least showed that many voters are parting from MSM and the Ideologies being pushed by them.

It's very easy to go to abc dot com, scroll all the way to the bottom and click contact us. Then find the button that says submit programming feedback. After you enter in the normal information, you can select the view and make a comment about the show.

If enough of us do this, this show will be gone and we can stop griping about the misleading and false information these women spew on a daily basis. I'll shed one tear for the YouTubers that make money making videos about this show but it really needs to be taken off the air immediately.

a reply to: AlroyFarms

I think the way I post often gets misunderstood as being moderate, probably a mix of me avoiding charged language and my views often challenge both sides.

But I’m not really moderate, I’m vehemently opposed to the two party structure, and the damage both have caused. I’d like to see real systemic change, and on the political compass I’m heavy libertarian with a slight right lean heavy economically right with the exception of education, and probably in the middle on social issues with the caveat I don’t think the government should play much of a role).

On Reddit I’m viewed as right wing, on here I’m considered left/moderate.

In reality, it doesn’t really matter. I think the problem is we all look to identify someone’s bias, and aim at that instead of the context of the discussion. I think things should be discussed issue by issue. If society could comfortably get there, we wouldn’t see ourselves locked into issues we don’t even agree with or feel strongly on purely because it’s put into the left vs right wedge issue context.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
But before this election, there was plenty of talk of civil war on this very site, and it wasn’t the first time. People seemingly giddy to go to the streets against the lefties.

I agree. But as I recall, it was always the Lefties that kept saying it was the Right that was going to start the civil war. The blame for that lies strictly at the feet of the Left.

a reply to: Station27

I’m sure we could both find different instances in which we both remember correctly.

In either event, I don’t think it’s worth re-litigating.

What’s done is done, my point is rather what can be done to move forward.

We’ve all been in professional situations where we see obvious wrong, and we still have to sell our case. If you get flustered or defensive, it’s harder to stay on good footing. If you approach it from a fact based stance calmly, you’re instantly in better standing than any opposition.

Politics is the same. If the winner right now just calmly states their case and gets to work, it will be noted. In fact, it’s already recognized evident by the election and MSNBC being spun off and likely dismantled.

The left is going to kick and scream, there’s already a whole subreddit claiming the election was rigged.

If the right uses the same retaliatory toned arguments, I think people will take note. If the right suddenly becomes the adult in the room, the left will just be humiliated.

Obviously, this is all just my opinion.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
I’m sure we could both find different instances in which we both remember correctly.

In either event, I don’t think it’s worth re-litigating.

Then I wonder why you brought up what you thought wasn't worth re-litigating in the first place? I didn't consider my response to it to be "re-litigating it," but rather just trying to set the record straight.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
We’ve all been in professional situations where we see obvious wrong, and we still have to sell our case. If you get flustered or defensive, it’s harder to stay on good footing. If you approach it from a fact based stance calmly, you’re instantly in better standing than any opposition.

And I agree with this as well. Which is why I stated my response in a calmly manner. I'll admit that it's sometimes hard to tell that in the written word on an internet forum.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
If the right suddenly becomes the adult in the room, the left will just be humiliated.

The Right always was the adult in the room. They didn't go around spouting they were going to start a civil war if they didn't get their way. They always knew what they were going to do. And they did that by going into the voting booth and voting to end what we've all experienced these last four years. And that's not my opinion - it really happened.

a reply to: Station27

I didn’t perceive your point as trying to re litigate it.

I just didn’t want to derail the thread too much by getting off topic.

I don’t question one bit that the sort of rhetoric was used by the left. We could probably still find examples now.

Lul Joe Rogan changed his social media status to "Dragon Believer."

I did too.

Here we go, folks! Make Dragons Real Again!

a reply to: AlroyFarms

I'm not interested in "the view" getting canceled. I'm interested in credible reactionaries shattering the rose tinted boudoir mirror they admire themselves in. It's called accountability, you don't get that from simply unplugging the program, they have to answer for mistakes and that requires a camera and studio. Hence the hilarious legal note scene where they are gently reminded that laws do apply to elitist 3rd wave feminists who think it's clever and sophisticated to diagnose the broad spectrum of inconvenient facts as misogyny. I'm surprised they didn't call their own department phobic for daring to correct them on live television.

The View is comedy gold. There is humor in seeing people way out in left field that think they got it all together. Some of the crap they come up with just solidifies my belief that this country has some of the stupidest people on the planet. Although, to think people actually watch this garbage and believe it, is somewhat disturbing to me.

Only dragons I see are those old reptile brained lizards on the view.

They have learned nothing. They don’t even realize how irrelevant they and they double down on the insults. Not only is Joe stupid to them so is everyone who listens. I don’t personally listen to Rogan but I respect him for having a very open mind when approaching subjects and is able to do so with candidly with humour.

If they can’t understand now why people would prefer an open minded, true to self and funny person over what ever they are trying to sell they never will. But it’s not about that they know full well they are nothing more then morning propagandists.
a reply to: AlroyFarms