Is It Time To Talk About Saying Goodbye TO The Federal Reserve and Maybe IRS?

This is a Gray Area thread and will be highly speculative, anecdotal, and accusatory not far from a rant, but with purpose.

Ever since I came on to ATS, one of the top biggest concerns of the CT community was the private ownership of the Federal Reserve, and of course that damned IRS Woodrow Wilson blessed us with a century ago in a very underhanded shady manner. Like he could not just refuse to sign it?? Anyways long has this damned privately owned Banking institution been responsible for the destruction of the value of our currency, but mostly through the corrupt politicians who have perverted its attempt at an independent monetary policy. I think so may patriotic Americans have long held this feeling of contempt for this institution, and especially the IRS.

Donald Trump is wresting back American sovereignty from the control of the cross Atlantic elite. Ever since NATO was formed, it really was more to serve the financial interests of the dominant central banking institutions of the world. We think of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank as American dominated institutions, but for many years this community documented the connections to the private ownership up to Basel, Belgium and the Bank for International Settlements. I think it has a slightly different name now in 2024, but I am just spitballing here on a whim right now .

I feel NATO is about securing the interests of the European elite, and ensuring all markets in the world conduct business and pay the fees through their financial system so they can collect the trillions in fees every year. Then they take that cheddar and whatever they make off the global drug trade and wash and invest it through the American war machine to utilize to conquer the next weakly defended market ripe for contracts after a healthy subtle propaganda campaign on the domestic citizenry for silent consent. These are the kinds of conspiracies I heartily remember being the center of discussion on Above Top Secret for so many years, and I would like to return to that discussion.

It is clear the attacks on Donald Trump are really about the end of the gravy train for the European elites as they have raped our society through the outright purchase of our elected officials and decades of passing financial laws and wars that served to make it more profitable to send our manufacturing overseas because ultimately the parents institutions own the supposed American corporations through cleverly hidden stock and shares ownership regiments at the institutional levels. And since all trading is pretty much done through AI algorithms everything has become so efficiently streamlined they know exactly how many pennies of ups and downs it takes in share prices to keep the pyramid scheme stable. Except it is not so stable anymore is it? We are witnessing a new era of independent domestic and foreign policy and it is causing a hiccup in Their Democracy and the stability of their cleverly crafted decades old system of domination and destruction sacrificing our weapons and citizens to venture around the world only occasionally accompanied by the citizens of Europe to wrestle control of physically weaker non-aligned markets so as to benefit the corrupted financial institutions.

Maybe we need to talk about here in America is ending income tax and going with national or state level sales taxes. If we are ending income tax, we may as well either get rid of the IRS or surgically neuter it to return some liberty to the citizenry. But I say go all in, and lets rid ourselves of the Federal Reserve as well?? We may as well start fresh since we are likely about to go through some serious financial reality checks soon all over the world. I say we discuss how we can legally end these institutions and the shackles they have attached to our labor for over a century now, and to our independent foreign and domestic policies.

What laws specifically have to repealed to begin the process of writing new law the end these private institutional ownership of our blood, sweat, and tears. # the Fed and the IRS they do not own me and should never have had the right to tax my existence or to make a living. #tard Obama wanted us all to pay an existence tax just for breathing in the form of that individual health care mandate. That to me was the ultimate humiliation of our people piled on to a century of getting reamed in the back by the IRS on our labor. The best way to prevent future idiots from abusing these institutions is to be rid of them now under new leadership that will be friendly and receptive to a more OG American way of Life. A version I never got to experience, and most people alive either. The version that brought the innovation and inventiveness that secured our industrial progress and lead over much of the world into the 20th century.

It would be interesting to see how America would progress when we get to keep all our money up front and if people would actually start saving again. Would be crazy if the only thing that was holding American citizens back from saving is the damned chunk of money the government keeps taking from us, like it was just the right amount to destroy the mental thought process of savings, or something.

Anyone else hate the IRS and Federal Reserve as much as me? Why don't they ever get attacked when rioters descend on an area? Those should be stop #1 always. I think the Fed is protected by the Secret Service though.

A wise man once said.
"The federal reserve is as "federal" as FedEx."

I feel the reason the federal reserve and IRS get by largely unscathed is because of misdirection and misinformed. If people were sat down and explained that our currency and monetary system was under the control bunch of unelected (Jewish)bankers.

Who have and still are funding every war in the last 100 years. Who have used that system to devalue our dollar and rob the American treasury and people. If you think Fort Knox has any gold in it anymore you are dead wrong.

This country is a corpse being consumed by maggots The Democrats are rooting for the maggots and the Republicans are rooting for the corpse...

Possibly one of the best documentaries ever made on the subject.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

The Federal Reserve - it's not Federal, and it has no reserves! Another perfect example of Orwellian naming conventions (other great examples are these sweeping bills they pass like "The Patriot Act" & "The Inflation Reduction Act", etc. that in practice actually counter the stated purpose of the bill)

Taxes are suffocating hardworking Americans, meanwhile the US wastes over $120 billion on Ukraine, and more recently another $230 million on a pier for Gaza that provided zero food/resources & was quickly destroyed (I believe they just approved another $225 million for Ukraine as well...)

# no, not unless you want excessive inflation and instability, and a huge loss of revenue, and another depression. following that path would be our downfall as a great power/superpower, china would become unrivaled in power, wealth and influence while we would become a poor third world has been that nobody wants to trade with because its out of the way, do you want the US to become a Chinese tributary zone, without any agency of its own?

freedom requires 3 things, wealth, power and friends, without NATO, federal reserve or a powerful military how would we expect to be left in peace? we would be exploited by many no doubt.

With the axis of evil from George Bush, one thing all those nations had in common was an economic system that was not part of the international banking community.

When looking into what caused the conflict between the Jew and Nazi in WW2, economic policy after WW1 and the nationalization of the German economy outside of the international backing community when Hitler got elected was one factor.

With the US Federal Reserve and its compounding debt issues, you might get your wish with a currency reset as inflation goes out of control trying to keep the economic machine running. As for what will rise out of the ashes? It took Russia about 3-10 years for the average person to find some economic stability again with their reset.

Their 99 year charter expired and was never renewed. Their power died in 2012, and they should have been phased out.

Never happened because the con is still going on. a reply to: worldstarcountry

This thread reminded me of a headline saying Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen sees the U.S. Dollar becoming worth less and less.

The Article: watcher.guru...

I have no clue if it's good or bad for the U.S. dollar to decline in value.

They should have been dismantled the day after they formed.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Hell yes, it is. I have been harping on repealing the 16th and 17th amendments for the past 7 years. If you look at when and why the first income tax was levied you will find that it was first levied in 1862 to finance the Civil War and it has been the financial source for every war since then. Before it's first implementation, the federal government was financed by duties and tariffs on international trade. Income taxes have allowed the federal government to become so bloated it is now out of control.

Several states don't have an income tax and even my state is taking steps to get rid of it. If the states can do without it why the hell can't the entire nation?

When they have their hands in every person's pocket no person is free. What better way to control people?

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The first income tax was levied primarily to help finance the expenses of the Civil War. President Lincoln signed into law a revenue-raising measure in 1862 to support the war effort, which created a Commissioner of Internal Revenue and introduced the nation’s first income tax. The tax was intended to generate revenue needed to fund the war and cover other government expenses during that time.

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originally posted by: theatreboy
They should have been dismantled the day after they formed.

Gen, then POTUS Andrew Jackson was against them from day one too.

Some people forget Jackson did this. But because he was hated by the liberals who took over the party after he died over the Indians having to be moved after they joined the British in the war of 1812 he is not remembered for his good deeds to protect us from the English Army AND the European Bankers. He was a Conservative who started the Democrat party of the people He challenged the bankers on a Federal Bank then and had to survive the 1st assassination attempt on a sitting POTUS.

During the war of 1812 Tecumseh captured Daniel Boone and took him to the British in Ft Detroit. He escaped after hearing of a plan to burn down the western pioneer villages and Fts. They were getting money for scalps again like in the French and Indian War early 18th Century fought with some of the same Indian tribes that we call Iroquois still holding on strong just to the west of the Appalachian Mtns.

To think I had it all wrong. No power, wealth and very few friends.

Yet I can do what I want when I want and do so despite those with power, wealth and friends.

Perhaps you are confusing freedom with control?

a reply to: namehere