A New Birth Of Freedom

These words should be understood by all, no matter politic or belief. We The People, are not servants of the gov, visa versa.

Some things to be considered and reflected on;

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2 Corinthians 3:17

Greetings, everyone, and a very Happy 248th American Independence Day! Sorry to the delusional and misguided leftists: this is the day America was founded, not that insidious cultural Marxism crap about 1619. Now that we have established that fact, let us endeavor to understand the real foundational meaning of July 4, 1776.

America is unlike any other nation that the world has ever known. It was established upon a very integral theory: Natural Rights. It was English political philosopher John Locke, the father of classical liberalism, not this post-modern leftism, who introduced this concept in his Two Treatises of Government, circa 1689. It was in the Second Treatise that Locke challenged the prevailing divine rights theory, that certain members of so-called royalty were granted divine sovereignty over the people, really subjects. Locke put forth that it was natural that all rights of the individual—life, liberty, and property—were granted by the Creator God, the God of the Judeo-Christian faith heritage. It was Thomas Jefferson who studied Locke and invoked at the very beginning of our Declaration of Independence the “Laws of nature and nature’s God.”

Jefferson enshrined into the founding—establishment of these United States of America—that the individual is sovereign because their unalienable rights are endowed to them by a sovereign God. It was not man—the government (with the little “g”)—that granted us our rights. Therefore, it could not take them away. That is why the aforementioned verse from Paul’s second letter to the people of Corinth is important. If we ever become a nation where secular humanists reestablish their perceived divine right to rule over us, then we will have lost this incredible blessing, the birth of a new freedom.

In this system of self-governance, citizens are just that, citizens. They are not subjects who must seek a “bye of a leave” from someone of believed greater status. Today we call those people politicians. This thing called government does not have the enumerated right—power—to decide who gets life, it is an unalienable right granted from the Creator. They cannot decide what we have the liberty to do, say, and be. In other words, they can’t decide for us what to eat, drive, or have in our homes or usurp the liberty to raise our children. The government should not be taxing our property, as that is not enumerated to them. Yes, render under Caesar what is Caesar’s; I have no problem paying taxes for the right and proper functions of government. That is what a French economist named Frederic Bastiat clearly presented in his essay, “The Law.” It is the government’s responsibility to protect my life, liberty, and property, not by way of misconceived benevolence and philanthropy to create a system of legal plunder.

If you take the time, which I recommend, to read the entire Declaration of Independence, you will see Jefferson listing grievances against King George III, many of which we face today.

Of course, my dear atheist and agnostic friends are fuming, but understand, you have the right not to believe, and thank God the Founding Fathers read Locke. If this nation falls to a secular humanist-based socialist economic and Marxist societal theory, all will suffer.

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Alexis de Tocqueville, author of Democracy in America, said, “Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.”

Today, we call that a “mic drop” moment.

De Tocqueville traveled this nation and wrote about his findings in his book. He truly embraced the belief that it was our spiritual foundation that made America exceptional and good and, therefore, great. He commented on what he saw in our Churches. Sadly, today, we have too many charlatans, fakes, phonies, and frauds in our pulpits who are not preaching about that spiritual foundation in America (see 2 Timothy 4:2-5).

So, this Independence Day, read, understand, and comprehend from whence your nation was founded, and what makes it unique and special. Share it with your children and grandchildren because they are not getting this education in our schools. Psalms 11:3 says, “When the foundations are being destroyed, what shall the righteous do?” I say we go back and study our first principles, the blocking and tackling of the creation of America. If we do not adhere to and understand our fundamentals, well, then some chucklehead will come along and disseminate lies and deceit about our nation being founded in 1619.

A New Birth Of Freedom

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May God bless these UNITED STATES of America and the Republic!

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a reply to: ADVISOR
I agree with most of this except the author forgot the Republicans are equally to blame here. They have done nothing to help preserve our democratically controlled republic other than support the same wars and bow to the same donor class as the democrats.

There was no mention of our late stage capitalist society as it consumes itself in a never-ending cycle of endless wars and unchecked corruption. Just more people pointing out how bad Marxism is meanwhile our infrastructure crumbles down around us and our elected leaders show more support for foreign countries than their own.

How is Americans paying for the universal Healthcare of isralies and Ukranians patriotic?

But Americans paying for the universal Healthcare of other Americans is Marxist?

People need to understand "late stage" everything sucks. We are not the greatest nation on earth. However it wouldn't take much to regain that title. But emulating Rome is definitely not the way to do it. We are currently illegal occupying at least 5 different countries and we are funding a genocide and numerous other conflicts that are killing millions.

How on gods green earth is supporting any of this a Christian value? Honestly Jesus would be ashamed with the stances most American judeo-christian evangelicals take...

It's a farce...

then i guess you conservative's are in for a bad time if its true that where the spirit is there is freedom, especially with how you speak gods name in vain to push your own political and personal ambitions onto others.

and how does this thread have anything to do with history?

what's up with all these off topic threads all over the place? why have i only just noticed this issue after being here for 22 years? *sigh* what has this place become?

a reply to: JAY1980

Jay I agree on that R part. I cannot let them slide just because the D's are pure evil and they claim to be against them when seen in public. The proof that you are right is when they end up voting to give more power to the gov and less to the people in small incremental steps that destroy us. There are only a Cruz or Paul type percentage wise. Those types get whack a mole treatment and Trump gets worse for wanting to clean out the scumbags most of us see today in the "swamp". I don't want them dead, I just want them out of power forever. If they get to keep their wealth would be on a case by case basis of their crimes and the victims rights to restitution.

No longer should be called a Hate crime. Truly, all criminals hate their victims or they wouldn't do it to them. They sure don't love the victim and hurting them proves the could care less for them. Those of us here in this cauldron need to climb out of it.

a reply to: ADVISOR

As I have pointed out in previous posts, the level of incarceration in the USA is excessively high, but its crime rate is median in the world.

By those real-world measures the USA is one of the least free countries in the world.

Incarceration Rates by Country 2024

Crime Rate by Country 2024

Take the hint that something is going very wrong with notions of 'liberty' in the USA.

And what of the hypocrisy of the USA Constitution in regard to its treatment slaves and the first nations by this 'free' and morally self-righteous country?

a reply to: chr0naut

Well they must have been reading this too because now they let em out after they rape or murder someone in just hours.

originally posted by: Justoneman
a reply to: chr0naut

Well they must have been reading this too because now they let em out after they rape or murder someone in just hours.

The sixth amendment guarantees the right for "a speedy trial" but does not define time limits. Generally, these limits are set by the states, but is often taken to mean that the trial must occur within 72 hours of arrest. Some states have different limits.

Generally, the first time a person is brought before the court is the arraignment where they are told the charge, given the chance to plead, and their right to an attorney is explained. People can be released at the arraignment if they will not go to a court trial (e.g. if they are clearly not guilty and/or it is established that it was a wrongful arrest). At the arraignment, a preliminary hearing date is given. For misdemeanour crimes, the charged who does not pose a flight risk can be released on their own recognisance. For felony crimes, the judge can only release the charged who do not pose a flight risk or danger to society and can post bail.

Bail, however, does let malefactors out if they have the money, or someone pays it for them. It is a hole in the justice system that favours the wealthy and disadvantages the poor.

In trial court cases, the prosecution has to have sufficient evidence to try the case and there is also time allocated for legal discovery. I doubt very much that they let anyone charged with these crimes out in just hours.

Please post links to actual cases where people charged with these serious crimes have been 'let off' in hours.

a reply to: ADVISOR

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2 Corinthians 3:17

Nice. That's written by the same guy that wrote this:

Romans 13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

I don't know what to tell you other than to "VOTE! VOTE! VOTE!