Quick question regarding November 2024

I have a quick question regarding the upcoming US presidential election, one I have not seen addressed, yet (maybe I'm just blind?):


As a "Convicted Felon" (note the quotation marks...I'm not taking sides here!), would Donald Trump be allowed to vote for himself in the upcoming election?


Strange Times!

a reply to: Mantiss2021

In Florida, yes.

Governor DeSantis spoke on this recently.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

States Allowing Convicted Felons to Vote:

Maine and Vermont are the two states that allow convicted felons to vote even while they are incarcerated for a felony conviction.

District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Massachusetts, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Utah automatically restore voting rights upon release from prison.

California, Colorado, Connecticut, New York, and South Dakota restore voting rights automatically once released from prison and discharged from parole (probationers can vote).

Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Washington, West Virginia, and Wisconsin** restore voting rights automatically upon completion of the sentence including prison time and parole or probation.

In Alabama, Delaware, Mississippi, Nevada, Tennessee, and Wyoming, voting rights restoration is dependent on the type of conviction or the outcome of an individual petition or application to the government.

In Florida, Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia, voting rights can only be restored through an individual petition or application to the government.



Edit: I don't see how states have the legal authority to dictate who can and can not vote in a federal election though.


No federal constitutional guidelines. The authority to govern and regulate elections resides with the individual states.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

If they can’t disenfranchise 60% of the country they will disenfranchise the man himself at least….because democracy.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

Trump might vote for Biden. Will Biden accept Trump's vote?

a reply to: charlest2

I believe Trump claims Florida as his home state; the state in which he would cast his ballot.


So he would have to file a petition in Florida requesting to be allowed to vote this November. I suppose the question would then be, would his petition be handled the same as any other Floridian felon's request, or will it be given "special treatment" (two tier legal system?) to expedite its processing? And if so, why?

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Trump might vote for Biden. Will Biden accept Trump's vote?

If Trump's legal status prohibits him from casting a valid vote, Biden would not be able to accept that vote (not that it's up to the candidates, themselves, to accept or reject votes cast for them. Nor, since ballots are cast in secret, would a candidate even be able to identify any particular ballot as having been cast by a particular voter)

originally posted by: WeMustCare
a reply to: Mantiss2021

Trump might vote for Biden. Will Biden accept Trump's vote?

If he dies before November, I promise you he will vote for Biden.

a reply to: Mantiss2021

If he’s a Democrat yes, you can even vote from the grave, but as a Republican it’s no.

originally posted by: TheLieWeLive
a reply to: Mantiss2021

If he’s a Democrat yes, you can even vote from the grave, but as a Republican it’s no.

"A judge in Phoenix on Friday sentenced a Scottsdale woman who now lives in California to two years' felony probation, fines and community service for voting her dead mother's ballot in the 2020 general election.
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The case against Tracey Kay McKee, 64, is one of just a handful of voter fraud cases from Arizona's 2020 election that have led to charges, despite the widespread belief among many supporters of former President Donald Trump that there was massive voter fraud that led to his loss in Arizona and other battleground states.
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Both McKee and her mother, Mary Arendt, were registered Republicans, although she was not asked if she voted for Trump. Arendt died on Oct. 5, 2020, two days before early ballots were mailed to voters."

From:
www.azcentral.com...

And:

"LAS VEGAS — A businessman whose fake claim of voter fraud in 2020 became viral after Nevada Republicans advertised the case as proof of widespread election fraud has successfully completed a one-year probationary period, allowing him to avoid a felony conviction on his record and jail time.

As part of a deal with state prosecutors, Donald "Kirk" Hartle, an executive at Ahern Rentals, a company with close ties to former President Donald Trump, was allowed to plead guilty on Thursday to conspiracy to vote more than once in an election — a gross misdemeanor. A judge ordered him to pay a $2,000 fine.

Hartle was originally charged last October with two felony counts accusing him of using his dead wife's ballot in the 2020 presidential election. His spouse, Rosemarie Hartle, died in 2017."

From:

www.rgj.com...

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
I have a quick question regarding the upcoming US presidential election, one I have not seen addressed, yet (maybe I'm just blind?):


As a "Convicted Felon" (note the quotation marks...I'm not taking sides here!), would Donald Trump be allowed to vote for himself in the upcoming election?


Strange Times!

Not yet, and Florida has very strict rules that DeSantis put into effect making it very difficult for felons to vote. Even after they are out of prison, there are many steps until they can get their voting rights back.

Lucky for Trump though, this was a NY case and NY has rules about getting people back on their feet faster. Also good news for Trump is that Florida has a rule that says that if a conviction is cleared in another state, they will honor that.

So basically, he has to pay all his fees, figure out the jail term, if any, and then do everything he can to get reinstated under NY law. When that happens, Florida will automatically honor what NY says.

So he's on a fast track to having guns and voting rights again, thanks to the state the lawsuit was brought in.

a reply to: Boomer1947

Red Herring cases to make people automatically think the vote ballot cheat massacres in many States is false. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

a reply to: Mantiss2021

And can he register, and vote in multiple states because he has residential property there?

a reply to: chr0naut

No. Only one state can be claimed as your "home State", or, for Federal (tax) purposes, your "State of residence".

You therefore can only register to vote in one State.


I am suprised that the MSM has not, yet, played up this potential irony since Trumps conviction. Seems like just the kind of "grist" they would crave for their mills.....but, "crickets".

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: chr0naut

No. Only one state can be claimed as your "home State", or, for Federal (tax) purposes, your "State of residence".

You therefore can only register to vote in one State.

I am suprised that the MSM has not, yet, played up this potential irony since Trumps conviction. Seems like just the kind of "grist" they would crave for their mills.....but, "crickets".

But Federal taxation is different than state elections. Also, don't corporations have similar legal rights as people now? Couldn't a state based corporate entity claim the right to vote?

52 U.S. Code § 10101 - Voting rights

How the 14th Amendment Made Corporations Into ‘People’

a reply to: chr0naut

Bit of clarification;

You can only register to vote in one State, persuent to the voting regulations of whichever State you choose. That State the becomes your "home State", and is recognized by the Federal government as your "State of residence" for official purposes, including taxation.

When I worked as a state (as opposed to federal/IRS) agent, this distinction was a common point of confusion among taxpayers who maintained their primary residence in my state, while also having a "vacation" home in a different State (or country). It was also a matter of concern for active members of the military who, although stationed in my State, actually entered their chosen branch of the services from their "home" states; and vice versa.


The point about corporations being "people", and thus the right to vote in elections is interesting....and a bit terrifying!

If it can be taken away it is a privilege not a right.

a reply to: Mahogani

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: chr0naut

Bit of clarification;

You can only register to vote in one State, persuent to the voting regulations of whichever State you choose. That State the becomes your "home State", and is recognized by the Federal government as your "State of residence" for official purposes, including taxation.

When I worked as a state (as opposed to federal/IRS) agent, this distinction was a common point of confusion among taxpayers who maintained their primary residence in my state, while also having a "vacation" home in a different State (or country). It was also a matter of concern for active members of the military who, although stationed in my State, actually entered their chosen branch of the services from their "home" states; and vice versa.

The point about corporations being "people", and thus the right to vote in elections is interesting....and a bit terrifying!

What if you had an alias or differently spelled name in different states where you also had residences? This fake identity stuff is easier than identity theft and probably harder to prosecute, too?

Also, imagine the number of shell companies with voting rights someone could make! If they were good at it, they could sell them to the highest bidder, too. And they couldn't get busted because it's in the Constitution and overrides all other law!

Gotta love that country's totally 'f'd up and immutable document's history of supporting dream scams like this.

Also, how did this get shoved under the rug: What Did Cambridge Analytica Do During The 2016 Election?. Surely it was a foreign group interfering in US elections. Their data was used to target millions of Facebook accounts who were notably gullible and trusting of social media, with content specifically designed to radicalize them.