Over 19,000 Unguided Rockets Fired Into Israel Since Oct 7

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: JAY1980

And you get your info from hamas.

lol

Wait, what? You don’t think hamas is a credible source of news and reporting? gtfoh. 😁

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: FlyersFan


After all, Israel killed almost 40,000 people in Gaza, two thirds women and children.

How many Hamass fighters have been killed?

We don't know yet.

In January, Israel claimed it has killed OR injured about 9,000 fighters. Link

By February, that went up to 10,000. Killed or injured. The journalist agencies did their own research and showed that up to 4,000 out of that 10k figure may still be civilians. Link

By April, Israel said they killed or injured up to 13,000 fighters. Link

By now in June, that may be up to 15,000. But once again, as reported, Israel has a hard time distinguishing between civilian population and fighters, so that number may be lower by a quarter, or a third.

The 40,000 dead are just the bodies of the dead that have been counted and identified. 25,000 to 30,000 out of that are innocent people, mainly women and children, people trying to survive and save their families.

Many others are not counted or identified, many have been vaporized using 2000lb bombs, others are dismembered and unidentifiable, and yet more are buried under the rubble of the attacks, waiting for their remains to be found.

Hope that helps!


eta: I would estimate, with no concrete evidence, just from reading and doing some basic math, that considering the famine that's been going on for at least 2 months now, the actual death toll of the civilians is about 50-70k people currently. Each month of war, if things don't change, will add about 12-15k deaths of civilians.

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: CarlLaFong

originally posted by: Mahogani
a reply to: FlyersFan


After all, Israel killed almost 40,000 people in Gaza, two thirds women and children.

How many Hamass fighters have been killed?

We don't know yet.

In January, Israel claimed it has killed OR injured about 9,000 fighters. Link

By February, that went up to 10,000. Killed or injured. The journalist agencies did their own research and showed that up to 4,000 out of that 10k figure may still be civilians. Link

By April, Israel said they killed or injured up to 13,000 fighters. Link

By now in June, that may be up to 15,000. But once again, as reported, Israel has a hard time distinguishing between civilian population and fighters, so that number may be lower by a quarter, or a third.

The 40,000 dead are just the bodies of the dead that have been counted and identified. 25,000 to 30,000 out of that are innocent people, mainly women and children, people trying to survive and save their families.

Many others are not counted or identified, many have been vaporized using 2000lb bombs, others are dismembered and unidentifiable, and yet more are buried under the rubble of the attacks, waiting for their remains to be found.

Hope that helps!


eta: I would estimate, with no concrete evidence, just from reading and doing some basic math, that considering the famine that's been going on for at least 2 months now, the actual death toll of the civilians is about 50-70k people currently. Each month of war, if things don't change, will add about 12-15k deaths of civilians.

Those are bs numbers. There is no “official” death toll numbers with the exception of the very first weeks. You can parrot those numbers all you want but there’s nothing official about them. The death toll numbers for most of the war has been done by media and journalists making up the numbers. I’ve posted this information a couple of times. Surely you’re not so ignorant that you’d believe that the media would be capable of accurately counting the deaths. There’s articles online explaining this and I’m not doing your homework for you, if you want to know the truth you’ll dig deeper instead of parroting the msm that fits your narrative.

a reply to: Mahogani

But look at all them pretty stars our resident sock moron gave you in just a couple of minutes 😂😂😂
That alone tells you how inaccurate your post is, it’s all msm propaganda and lies.

a reply to: KrustyKrab

Not to mention the “famine” which the UN Famine Review Committee failed to verify.

And the totally ignored FACT here on ATS that the civilian to combatant fatality ratio is in line or better that other wars of this type.

War is crap, but to argue that this is anything but a war is Terrorist Propaganda.

a reply to: NorthOS

It's Joos.

It's different.

Sadly.

a reply to: DBCowboy

This image on X is a good infographic of Israeli “aggression”.

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originally posted by: Mahogani
The 40,000 dead are just the bodies of the dead that have been counted and identified. 25,000 to 30,000 out of that are innocent people, mainly women and children, people trying to survive and save their families.

Totally Hamas propaganda. Dead wrong.

They have not 'been counted and verified' at all.

I already posted the correct information.

16,000 dead civilians. 16,000 dead terrorists.

And those dead civilians who are adults, applaud, approve of, and aid Hamas.

The dead civilians are 50% male ... not 'mainly women and children'.

Educate yourself ... and not with Hamas propaganda.

originally posted by: JAY1980

I just love how you speak with such conviction like you actually know what the **** you are talking about.

You are full of **** and you know it!

Sweetie ... every single time you post you are debunked.
You might want to stop talking now.
You embarrass yourself.

Report - Hamas Exaggerated Civilian Deaths in Gaza

The Hamas-run health agency has systematically overestimated the number of women and children killed in Gaza, according to an Associated Press analysis of the agency's fatality reports.

The AP's Friday report shows the Gaza Health Ministry persistently overestimated the death toll, providing inaccurate daily counts. Most daily death tolls released by the Gaza Health Ministry, the report says, were "provided without supporting data."

"As Gaza’s hospital system collapsed in December and January, the ministry began relying on hard-to-verify ‘media reports’ to register new deaths," the AP reported. "Its March report included 531 individuals who were counted twice, and many deaths were self-reported by families, instead of health officials."

In February, the Hamas-run ministry said 75 percent of fatalities were women and children, "a level that was never confirmed in the detailed reports" it released, according to the AP. The Gaza Health Ministry's overcounting reportedly persisted in March, when it inaccurately claimed 72 percent of the dead were women and children.

In reality, the AP found, roughly 54 percent of fatalities in Gaza by the end of March were women and children.

AP News - Women and Children Killed Less Frequently in Gaza

JERUSALEM (AP) — The proportion of Palestinian women and children being killed in the Israel-Hamas war appears to have declined sharply, an Associated Press analysis of Gaza Health Ministry data has found, a trend that both coincides with Israel’s changing battlefield tactics and contradicts the ministry’s own public statements.

The trend is significant because the death rate for women and children is the best available proxy for civilian casualties in one of the 21st century’s most destructive conflicts. In October, when the war began, it was above 60%. For the month of April, it was below 40%. Yet the shift went unnoticed for months by the U.N. and much of the media, and the Hamas-linked Health Ministry has made no effort to set the record straight.

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: Mahogani

But look at all them pretty stars our resident sock moron gave you in just a couple of minutes 😂😂😂
That alone tells you how inaccurate your post is, it’s all msm propaganda and lies.

Same place your stars come from, bud... we've already discussed this on ATS.

Russians don't like the US, and they don't like Israel.

The same Russians that star and flag you when you say something against the USA or against American democracy, are starring posts that are critical of Israeli war.

If you don't like these ones, why do you like the ones you get?

originally posted by: Mahogani

originally posted by: KrustyKrab
a reply to: Mahogani

But look at all them pretty stars our resident sock moron gave you in just a couple of minutes 😂😂😂
That alone tells you how inaccurate your post is, it’s all msm propaganda and lies.

Same place your stars come from, bud... we've already discussed this on ATS.

Russians don't like the US, and they don't like Israel.

The same Russians that star and flag you when you say something against the USA or against American democracy, are starring posts that are critical of Israeli war.

If you don't like these ones, why do you like the ones you get?

Nah, that isn’t it. I guess you haven’t been paying attention to the hamas threads. It’s not a Russia thing. Carry on…..