How an interest in startrail photos got me wired into the Matrix to root out Agent Smith.

Hi ATS,

I appreciate that this thread is a bit difficult to categorise, but I’m going to put it in the ‘Conspiracies in Religion’ forum because the central premise is that the world we see is distorted by a fallen god who was permitted influence over the world, but not absolute control. That influence, in distorting the world, hugely interfered with any possibility of a true perception of God that Humanity would otherwise have possessed down through the ages.

I was going to put a bunch of photos in the thread to make it look interesting, but then I realised I’m not writing for Time Magazine, this is serious journalism here.

Read through the whole thing, I dare you. My sincere thanks if you make it to the end.

How does a photographer take long-exposure photos of Polaris-centred star trails? Either the universe is spinning around him with Polaris at the centre (we are assured by scientist-priests this is not the case) or he himself is spinning beneath Polaris, the central polar star which can be seen from everywhere on Earth. His middle axis would have to align with the middle axis of the Earth’s supposed axis, running from North to South – so a person standing on the equator could not hope to produce star trail photographs around Polaris because he is flying around at 1600km/h tilted at an angle, warping his perspective horribly. Furthermore, the Southern ‘hemisphere’ star formation Crux which is seen as the nearest equivalent to the pole star phenomenon in the Northern ‘hemisphere’ does not sit centrally in line with a supposed southern celestial pole, and neither can it be seen with star trails forming around it from the whole Earth in the same way that Polaris can – if not, why not? Surely what goes for one pole at all times & in all seasons must go for the other pole at all times & in all seasons? Furthermore, at mid-latitudes the only spherical star trails would be seen to move horizontally across the sky! Anyway. Is the Earth itself spinning to produce star trail photographs, the explanation we are given by the scientist-priests? No, that can’t be right either. Because after an 180° degree partial orbit around the Sun, Polaris would be millions of kilometres out of alignment with the Earth's actual North Pole.. And so we return to the original suggestion, and for many additional reasons not covered in the scope of this OP, we can ultimately determine that indeed, the sky above our heads is what is revolving around the North Star, Polaris, which is allegedly two quadrillion miles away from us, and itself does not rotate but stays perfectly fixed, the pin at the centre of the pin-wheel; year after year, decade after decade, century after century, millennium after millennium, aeon after aeon. For the Earth’s manic wobbling, spinning, revolving, spiralling & shooting motions through ‘space’ to be feasible, then from two quadrillion miles away, Polaris would have to be mirroring, in real time, the wobbling, spinning, revolving, spiralling & shooting movements that the Earth is making through the universe in the course of each year, to stay centred above the North Pole, as Earth allegedly revolves around itself, the Sun, the galaxy & the universe as a whole. And not only does this relate to Polaris, but to each & every other star too. This is because all stars are allegedly at varying distances from the Earth, according to scientist-priests, and therefore as the Earth moves in the various ways we are told it does, the stars MUST therefore move out of place due to our perspective – both relative to each other & relative to us here on the Earth as well. Yet somehow, the Zodiac asterisms have remained exactly the same throughout all time after at least seven millennia of the allegedly manic motions of the Earth through ‘space’. Sheer nonsense. The only way that the stars could maintain their fixed positions relative to each other, would be if the Earth is a fixed planar expanse with the ‘Sky’ (the visible universe) being a spherical shell which is rotating around the Earth plane, showing a greater or lesser part of its total expanse depending on where, when & how you view it.

To introduce this thread more broadly, I present the following comments:

I thoroughly expect the response to be brutal in the main, but I just want to get the thread up so it can be looked at by people smarter than me who can discern the general arguments I’m attempting to present, then beginning to see their way through the ninety years of propaganda since Professor Auguste Piccard descended from the seminal flight in a capsule & balloon rig he had designed himself, as he first described the Earth from 55,000 feet, in the stratosphere, higher than any man had ever hone before, as “flat, with a slightly upturned edge”. These smart people I’m thinking of will then recognise that we do not live on a magic spinning ball in a cold, impersonal, steel-edged & mechanistic universe that cares naught for us & our problems, but instead we have been lied to on a dramatic scale, and at a fundamentally & truly cosmic level, someone has messed with our environment too. Why do I care about this situation anyway? Surely Flat Earth theories are bunk which are only parroted by lunatics..? Well, it’s actually because I'm sick of people being dissuaded by disingenuous sophistry & technological manipulation of image data by the guardians of astral knowledge in powerful ‘scientific’ institutions from believing that we as sentient Humanity are wondrously blessed with the ability to get to know in person (in some small way) our infinite, loving & beneficent Creator God, who formed us in our mother’s womb & constructed the realm we live in, furnished it with incredible features & rules of operation, and filled it with all the wonders of vast Nature for us to enjoy & benefit from in this life, with a true homecoming to the divine Paradise promised when we reach the end of our material lives.

By understanding the world in the right context, we are gifted with sure knowledge; a direct & unassailable path to an awareness of God which is not in any way confusing or scary, because His existence is as matter-of-fact as apple pie. As it happens, we're currently occupying the tail end of the so-called 'post-truth' period of the burgeoning age of enlightenment which began in the 1500s-1600s. After that comes a choice: Do we permit that the fiends who run the demonic secret society which has lied to us in an organised, systematic, despicable way for over five hundred years, even back to Babylon & further, to antediluvian times, continue to lie to us right up until the time of the seemingly inevitable Apocalypse (literally, 'the unveiling'), or are we prepared to accept a true & righteous 'vaccine' against the harmful pathogenic scum responsible for our mass delusion? As you will no doubt understand, this will be the only vaccine developed in the last few years which has our best interests at heart.

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The people responsible for the 'P*andemic' are also those who are responsible (they & their antecedents) for the horrendously harmful disinformation which has led us out of the true enlightenment into what I call 'the Golden Age of Confusion', which has spawned so many horrific consequences; which simply would not have occurred if the plain truth about God had been revealed to us back when scientific instruments were becoming capable of supporting the scientists to potentially tell the common people the ‘plane’ truth about the world we live in.

God is not willfully terrifying to those who do not understand the world we live in, indeed one of the roles of the angels is that they explain the many deceptions which humans have lived under, when we finally do enter the world of spirits, before ascending to Heaven or (perhaps) throwing ourselves headlong into Hell (we go to those with whom we have an affinity, even to the point of choosing damnation & life as a demon, rather than being humble before God & asking forgiveness for wrongs committed on the Earth). Unwitting people may find themselves scared by the prospect of the existence of God, simply because they have not had the benefit of long earthly experience knowing with 99% near-certainty that He definitely does exist. Because if the world had been explained properly to them by their teachers (& by extension the scientists whose role it is to interpret the nature of the world & present its truths to the people who teach the next generations), then they would have no fear whatsoever, because they would realise that all of nature is purposed for the support & comforting benefit of Humanity & for enabling the upward ascending trajectory of their spiritual life here on Earth, to the point of salvation & entry into the Heavens upon the death of the physical body.

In the fullness of time, the world was found to present an appearance of POSSIBLY being a 'planet' rather than a plane to people who are without certain tools of discernment, without access to or understanding of detailed historical beliefs & arguments, or lacking access to high-power scientific instruments capable of ranging over the entire Earth & Sky at every extent & altitude (which is what the post-war Nazis & then the Americans did abundantly after discovering ‘electrogravitic’ drives in the 1950’s, which was originally the talk of the military-industrial complex’s own journals & editorials until the ban hammer of ‘national security’ was brought down upon the projects in operation at the time). This furthering intent to deny the truth of the nature of our world to all the people who did not have access to high technology is why the Antarctic Treaty was signed in the late 1950s, so that people who weren't there on official government business for one of the signatory nations could not simply sail to Antarctica & start investigating whether the rumours of a mysterious 'wall' extending infinitely, apparently running all the way East to West forever were true, rumours which began after ship’s captains like Captain Cook discovered that no matter what they tried, their dead reckoning was off by several miles each day as they attempted to sail around the landmass they perceived as the Antarctic continent, which had allegedly been described to them by scientist-priests of the day as a vast island continent existing on the underside of the globe, which one could allegedly sail all the way around in some 11,200 miles, so we are told by Wikipedia (by the end of the journey, on reaching their start point again (having sailed clean around all the landmasses in the world, because Antarctica & the South are simply the furthest extended realm distant from the magnetic North Pole that our ships can penetrate) they had sailed over 61,000 miles, which clearly made no sense if they were allegedly sailing around this little island continent on the bottom of the planet. It only made sense if Antarctica was in fact almost entirely a wall of impenetrable ice mass which encircled the world entirely, with the only magnetic centre on the ‘planet’ being at the North Pole, which could in fact actually be reached on foot – any claim of reaching a magnetic South Pole was early disinformation, because compasses are unreliable in that region. These rumours of a second, vast & esoterically mysterious ‘wall’ BEYOND the supposed ice wall of the circular extent of Antarctica surrounding the world’s landmasses told of a place that could only be reached after one had managed to trek through the ice to beyond the 80th parallel. It was said to be made of ‘liquid sky’. Anyway, putting that aside for a moment; low power scientific instruments will incidentally furnish the appearance of a planet to people who don't really understand what they're looking AT or what they’re looking FOR, invariably these are people who were already operating under the illusion that we live on a planetary body rather than a planar expanse surrounded by an ice mass, further surrounded by an impenetrable & weirdly mysterious revolving ‘wall’ (the base of the ‘dome’) further out towards the global ‘South’ as far as it is possible to travel across the ice fields.

As noted above, there is no southern polar star, and the SCP (Southern Celestial Pole) is a fiction; the star trails prove out the fact that perspective is the only thing at play when people think they are seeing stars rotating around the supposed SCP. All stars in fact orbit the Earth's domed sky from East to West, slowly when orbiting close to Polaris above us, and more quickly as the domed firmament extends all the way out to its furthest extremes, just before touchdown in the wild winds of Antarctica. Polaris remains fixed above the central North Pole on Earth, all stars orbit around this point, either within or projected onto the dome by means that are not well-understood by people outside of black research projects in the world's most advanced militaries & military-industrial corporations. Even astronomers don't realise that they are looking at am esoteric ‘living planetarium’ when they look out into 'space', with the results of their use of massive viewfinders (telescopes) being that they are able to observe ‘further out’ into what is almost certainly a sort of holographic projection of the appearance of stellar objects onto/into the stable yet fluid surface of the dome itself, and that all of the distance to impossibly far-off stars (as so they seem to be) is nothing more than an illusion, an aspect of the world that has somehow been bent out of shape.

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Having said that, it is an illusion which God clearly permitted somehow as an optional pressure point that could be exerted in disinformational ploys against the populace of the world we live in; for those who controlled the world this was the possibility of deceiving the masses in an appalling injustice which has to date seen so many people living without the sure knowledge of God that they would have had were the Earth revealed by the leaders in its true nature to the population. This is a hard one to understand. Why did God permit the persistence of an illusion which could be manipulated by the leaders of Humanity’s military-scientific investigations teams & the political mouthpieces who parrot the intentions of the elites in bite-size, easily digestible forms for the masses to consume…? One must now take a deep breath, as I believe that I know why this occurred.

You may have heard reference in Christian theological treatises to the so-called ‘Fall of Man’. This event is conveyed in the Book of Genesis, in the Christian & Hebrew Scripture as the act of a serpentine figure who was later revealed to have been formerly one of the highest angels in all Creation, if not the very highest himself. He was a Seraph by type, a mightily powerful angel who walked amongst the fiery stones in the Kingdom of Heaven, in the very throne room of God, and his default appearance & nature was deliberately serpentine in accordance with the will of God when creating the varied creatures that would populate the Heavens & the Earth at the beginning of everything, time included. When the first royal family of Israel were basking in the paradisical Garden of Eden, enjoying the wonders of the Creation, enjoying the glories of communing with God on a near-daily basis as He walked in the cool of the afternoon to meet with them; the serpentine creature, this mighty angel which had so much power as for it to be inconceivable to the human mind, made an appearance in a form that deceived the royal progenitors of Israel (he was clearly able to ‘shapeshift’ into new forms at will, as most angels can), and he tempted & tricked these unwitting hierarchs into accepting a deal that threw the entire created order into a cocked hat, in one fell swoop, resulting in an exchange of the sovereign authority over the Earth, from Adam to this angelic being, Lucifer. Being made aware of the now disgraced condition of these regents in the garden, the Lord came down & levied judgment on the pair for their misdeed in not trusting His Word. For not trusting Him, the sovereign Lord of all Creation, whom they knew to be absolutely trustworthy in everything He had ever said to them previously.

As a result, everything on the Earth changed. The humans were found to be in a newly degraded condition – rather than remaining immortal, the prophetic word of God came to pass; in the day that they ate the rarefied fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil they became mortal. Though they would have a lifespan of nearly a thousand years, the genetic clock started ticking down, and human lives became progressively shorter over the still many long generations in those antediluvian days, long before the increasing wickedness of the sons of Adam in tandem with the behaviour of dark angels who were cast down to the Earth or into a prison-like Hell during the course of the Luciferian rebellion (there was supposedly more than one rebellion event, which is why two separate moments of corruption are noted in the Genesis narrative; initially the Luciferian rebellion, then the rebellion recorded at great length in the Book of Enoch, led by the dark angel Samyaza (Hebrew transliteration) in which previously obedient angelic beings decided to descend to Earth to take power over that societal order & have their way with power, wealth & women..)

Once the initial Luciferian rebellion had occurred, the Earth’s rule was turned over to him, taken from Adam, everything about the Earth itself was now subject to Lucifer’s creative desires, to a certain extent.

He was permitted to bend, but not break, the created order. He was permitted to sow illusion & confusion, so long as a possibility remained that diligent searchers would discern the truth behind the deceptions created by Lucifer’s interventions. You will already be well aware of the rather ubiquitous & prominent conspiracy theory that a race of serpentine beings has assumed control over the Earth & its people; and indeed this actually lines up perfectly with scripture. Many of the angels cast down to Earth with Lucifer would have been Seraphs, the serpentine beings originally created to be the warrior protectors of God’s throne room, permitted to revel in His glories on a constant basis – and yet they threw it away for a frivolous ‘bowl of stew’ inheritance, much as Adam did the exact same thing - throwing away the regency over Earth in exchange for something that he didn’t even understand at the time, save for the fact that he knew it was not permitted – and this was the diabolical attraction that was the cause of Original Sin, the fact of disobedience for the sake of disobedience, essentially simply on the promise of knowing what colour the grass on the other side of the hill happened to be. Lucifer’s angelic brothers & sisters, and the angels of the second rebellion, all now fallen, all having lost most of their glory, some having been imprisoned to prevent egregious harms that they would otherwise have the power to commit, yet most still retaining the power to create illusions in the world of Man, spent successive generations building powerful cultic secret societies which were able to hide within the operative world of Man in positions of great power, wealth & authority, ruling over thousands, then millions & then billions as the millennia passed, having just about survived the flood (referred to as Nephilim in the Scripture) to spread their influence throughout the world as civilisation was rebuilt; and to this very day they are manipulating us, spreading illusions, deception, devising temptation gambits to snare foolish young souls & ensuring that warfare has remained the number one priority of Mankind no matter what the century happened to be, cloaking their true appearances & pretending at being human so as to pass themselves off as rulers rising naturally from within the ranks of Mankind, rather than they who seized absolute power by deceiving & murdering their way to the top of every pyramidal societal structure, using their unique advantages as apex predators in order to do so. They exist today in powerful positions within all sorts of industries & institutions, and at times they slip up & through pride reveal their true nature to subservient humans. But generally they stay hidden & rule by secrecy, knowing that if Mankind became truly aware of what was occurring within their various orders & societies, there would be a revolution by morning..

The truth about all this was something that for long ages past has been a secret, and one which God has surely intended for Humanity's leaders to share with the people when true civilisational & scientific maturity was finally found to be in the ascendancy.

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THIS is the truth that the world's leaders are afraid to share with the people, it has nothing to do with whether 'aliens' exist. Former military & military contractors are now carefully revealing that 'non-human intelligence' exists, and that it has been interacting with Earth's leaders for generations, with announcements from highly placed former military commanders being put out every few months to soften up resistance to this truth; indeed the latest announcement was only a few days ago, though the guy’s name escapes me. But 'non-human intelligence' doesn't necessarily mean 'alien', and indeed it could only mean two other possibilities: angelic, or demonic. If you had to bet on which form has been openly manipulating the governments, particularly the US government since the days of Roswell (indeed, overall we’re talking since before the fall of Babylon), which would you bet on? I know that angels are sent to minister to those who will inherit salvation, so the Good Book tells me. Pulling cloak & dagger stunts with members of the military-industrial complex; abducting humans in ways that are deeply traumatic CANNOT be the work of angels. It is simply an extension of the Luciferian/Enochian rebellions, the work of fallen angels, the most powerful of which damned himself at the birth of Humanity & bent the world out of shape in the process, in order to ensure that most people in the End Times could be deceived by the scientist-priests which he would put in place during the inevitable period of rapid scientific & technological advancement which we would come to know as the late medieval to Enlightenment period. By putting his stooges (selected from the ranks of his various secret societies & academic orders) into positions of relative authority & influence, at just the right time in each instance, Lucifer was able to gin up support amongst unsuspecting Humanity for the prospect that somehow we were living on a magic spinning ball which flew around the bright Sun which lit up our skies, with that being the only light in existence, being as we were living in a cold, mechanical, spiritually dead & entirely materialistic universe ripe for nihilism & hedonism (his two favourite things) – a universe with no supervising agency, a universe which cares naught for any human who ever lived.

Do you see how things would be different if we had been taught the truth about the shape & natural order of our world over the past 90 years? Can you imagine if the news media had accurately & honestly told the story of Auguste Piccard’s perception of the true shape of the Earth when viewed from the stratosphere? Instead Lucifer’s stooges (or perhaps some of his brothers & sisters working in news media organisations) claimed that Piccard had NOT said: “It looks like a flat disc with a slightly upturned edge” but instead reported that Piccard “had seen evidence for the curvature of the Earth”, They blatantly & unashamedly LIED flat-out, in a completely contemptible manner. His words were recorded by multiple journalists, but the only story that went out on the news wire was that he had seen evidence for the curvature of the Earth. Total deception from start to finish. But that was the starting gun, which doubtless the god of this world had well prepared for, launching a brutal campaign of disinformation which intensified & grew more & more complex ^ far-reaching over the next ninety years. Every kindergarten class had a globe in it, because as Nazi war criminal Goebbels knew during WW2: “Get them while they’re young, and they’re yours for life.” Conversely, if we had heard the truth of Piccard’s statements, had the media not been stacked with stooges & literal agents of Lucifer to control the developing narrative, then we the people acrodd the developed world, would immediately have understood that such a marvellous self-sustaining realm, was clearly designed to give us every benefit under the sun for our advantage (both materially but ultimately also spiritually). Ultimately, this would have gone a long way to ensuring that we had no psychological trauma over whether God existed or not, because every eye would see & every tongue would confess that there was clearly a loving Creator God responsible for this wonderful realm, the One who formed us in our mother’s womb, to whom we would ultimately return one fine day when our travelling days on Earth were done.

So finally then, the star trails issue which I had the most trouble understanding at first: Why does it appear in the southern ‘hemisphere’ that one can witness rotating star trails apparently forming out towards the ‘global’ south ‘pole’…? When timelapse imagery of the motion of stars is taken at or near the equator, the star trails become straight lines, gradually seeming to cross over into stars apparently rotating west to east around an invisible ‘southern celestial pole’. The ‘plane’ truth, is that this is nothing more than a fascinating illusion – again, initially formed due to the relatively immense power of the malevolent god who distorted the truth of the Earth realm as far as he possibly could, in readiness for springing this illusion upon unsuspecting Humanity towards the end of the Messianic age which he knew would come. I strongly suspect that at the beginning of the Fall of Man, Lucifer & his compatriots had incredible magical power over the created world – but just in the same way that the lifespans of the sons of Adam gradually decreased during the antediluvian age, the powers which Lucifer possessed also were minimised over time, so that ultimately he rules in secrecy, perhaps even self-limiting to a certain extent so as to remain hidden from the eyes of the race of Man that he had assumed a rulership over when Adam gave up his birthright for that deceptive bowl of stew. Only when the Lord Jesus appeared on the scene did Lucifer & all the others get the shock of their lives, as the Lord systematically dismantled their hold over Humanity through the specifics of His ministry on Earth which we are supposed to emulate as Christians - & especially through His self-sacrificial death on the cross, and of course His resurrection & ascension to glorious eternal & indestructible LIFE thereafter, at the right hand of God. It is said in Scripture that when He had actually died on the cross, He spent two days ministering to the spirits of those who had been imprisoned in darkness having died prior to the deluge. Essentially I’m convinced that He also saved all the other souls who had found themselves trapped in the Hellish realms that Lucifer had created as places of punishment & control over his Satanic kingdom. Being the Alpha & Omega, the Lord of Time itself, I’m fairly sure that He worked miracles which liberated them even from the memory of suffering, so they were totally psychologically healed as well as spiritually saved. Indeed it is said that the Lord led a “train of captives” to freedom in the Heavenly realms, releasing them from their confinement & gifting them with eternal life.

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However, the message of the Heavenly Kingdom is ‘Now but not yet’, in that the act of Salvation has already occurred in the death, resurrection & ascension of Jesus – but the world itself is still under the rule of Lucifer, until the time of the Apocalypse, the ‘unveiling’ of the Truth regarding this world & all its illusions. The Enemy’s activity is getting particularly intense in the so-called ‘post-truth age’ we currently occupy, as his plans for the chaotic corruption of Mankind begin to reach fever pitch. All of the evil he has perpetrated in the world we live in, all the suffering he & his demons have caused over the hundreds of generations since this all began, has been solely designed in order to get revenge on the Creator, sullying the virtues of Humanity in successively more terrible ways as the generations progressed, getting very excited for the inevitable age of high technology, when his plans to corrupt Mankind at the deepest possible level could really go into overdrive (the corruption increasing over successive recent generations is something that any intellectually honest thinking person will accept has occurred, whatever the ultimate cause may be).

Finally, to preface the following video (which explains this problem of perspective with handy diagrams), I will return to the non-theological aspect of the premise of this thread & show you a video that helped me to understand the mystery of southern star formations & how they are subject to illusory patterns of operation currently:


Firstly, I will state that ALL stars rotate around the central north polar star of the firmament sky (Polaris) from east to west, spinning more quickly the further away from the central pole star each star happens to be (in the same way that the Sun spins faster above the Earth plane when it is circling in the Tropic of Capricorn, in the southern ‘hemisphere’, which is why the temperature gets much colder the further south you go from the Tropic of Capricorn even during the ‘summer’ when the Sun is more readily above you – because the sun passes very quickly overhead, not providing sustained heating to the Antarctic land mass..) Concurrent with this understanding, you will now understand why the northern Arctic region is less brutal in summer, indeed many plants & animals are readily found in the Arctic latitudes generally, but especially in summer, whereas Antarctica supports barely any life at all, except for penguins & sea birds on the edges by the ocean, even in the summer. Antarctica is well known by explorers to be far more cold & inhospitable compared to the relatively ‘fresh’ Arctic region, which receives longer exposure to sunlight in the summer because the Sun is moving slower through the sky when it is in the Tropic of Cancer, being closer to Polaris at the centre of the spinning firmament. Antarctica meanwhile receives merely a very quick overhead pass of the Sun during the southern ‘hemisphere’ summer. Getting back to the point of this paragraph, the illusion of an apparent southern celestial pole around which star trails seem to be forming, is caused by a combination of where you are on the plane of the Earth realm; the direction you are looking in; as well as the varying distances to both the land & sky horizons visible from your location (which is also based on the direction of your view)..

Please review the Rumble video at the linked page below, which uses diagrams to explain what the southern stars get up to at the edges of the world. You may need to watch it a couple of times to get all the geometric images properly stored & rotating correctly in your mind’s eye; myself, I had to watch a few times to get a hold of exactly what was being said.

But hey, nothing worthwhile is ever easy.

RUMBLE.COM video explanation (with diagrams) of star trails/ star behaviour in the southern skies


So that’s everything I have for now. I appreciate that this thread is a bit difficult to categorise, but I’m going to put it in the ‘Conspiracies in Religion’ forum because the central premise is that the world we see is distorted by a fallen god who was permitted influence over the world, but not absolute control. That influence, in distorting the world, hugely interfered with any possibility of a true perception of God that Humanity would otherwise have possessed down through the ages. Particularly in the Age of Enlightenment, stooges operant within cultic secret societies were placed strategically to control the developing narrative concerning the science which describes the nature of the world that we live in, particularly in regards to any & all astronomy that has been done since telescopes first came into being. Indeed, there were globe-earthers in antiquity who are referenced even today, despite the easy falsifiability of their so-called enlightened experimentation to ‘prove’ that Earth was a globe. I’m looking at you Eratosthenes – suspiciously powerful man for his time, chief librarian at Alexandria, almost certainly a Luciferian cultist owing to his high position as a ‘guardian of knowledge’. He will likely have looked at the Hebrew mythology as skewing the character of Lucifer, who is seen by his cultists as a Light-Bearer, a bringer of knowledge. Indeed, he caused Adam & Eve to eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil. So yeah, nothing suspicious about the polymath chief librarian of the most famous library in the entire history of the world, guardian of the most esoteric knowledge that existed in all Creation somehow deciding on a whim that he could measure the size of & predict the shape of the Earth as being a globe of ‘X’ dimensions, according to his alleged ‘sticks in the ground’ experimentation. Not suspicious at all, in terms of his impact on the nascent narrative that Lucifer was pushing, even back in 250BC. Oh, and Eratosthenes allegedly wrote a book about star constellations too. Strange how he wrote about the two subjects that would later be used so blatantly to distort the narrative concerning Mankind’s conception of the world we live in, and the otherwise obvious conclusion that there is a Creator God operating behind the scenes, who provided a wonderful habitat for us to develop spiritually within while engaging in our material world travels. Not suspicious at all.

Anyway, thanks for reading the thread, I hope it provokes further research & an interest in understanding how the theological information I have incorporated into this woven blend of science & magic could potentially have an impact on how you view the world, God, your life as a sentient human in a world which contains apex predators who walk amongst us in disguise, and so on. There are even ‘perfectly possessed’ humans, who have given themselves over to be possessed by disembodied demonic spirits of high rank, which are even more dangerous than the embodied seraphs who remain a very real part of the deepest layers of conspiratorial activity in this otherwise wonderful realm with all the bounty of nature prepared for our enjoyment, for our rulership & sovereignty – if only we can deal with the problem of the Devil’s presence. Could we avoid the Apocalypse, a predicted future time when all of this will be revealed in a very dramatic way, by powerful government figures coming out & talking about the fact that the Earth is not a globe?

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I think it’s possible – but it’s HIGHLY unlikely that it will happen. Unfortunately, I think that when these evil beings of various type & rank are exposed as being in control of this world, we will see an explosion of true chaos being laid upon us. Could we rebel against the slave-driving demonically-controlled elitists who rule this Earth in as far as they can no longer continue to corrupt people to follow in their ways? If people generally across the world stopped being willing to be corrupted at the risk of their very soul, then we might expose & overcome Lucifer’s minority rule by secrecy in a near-bloodless coup.

What say you ATS, is this thread weird enough to inspire radical changes in the way we view ourselves & our potential in relation to the complexities of this world’s esoteric heritage?

Thanks for reading the whole way through.


FITO.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Just write a book already about this crap and be done with it.

If the god of the bible you believe in was so great why would he let all this crap happen in the first place? None of it makes sense, you and your flat earth nonsense. For an otherwise intelligent guy it’s a shame, a classic case of cognitive dissonance.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Great thread and great points. I love how people who are normally open minded just refuse to even do research. They just draw the line it seems.

Anyways, I’m sure someone will be along soon to say that the stars and constellations are ‘so far away’ and that they do move along with us, while we are spinning and hurtling through space as we spin around our sun and our galaxy spins around a larger center, etc. and, you know, the constellations are ‘just so far away’ that they ‘appear’ to always be the same.
Oh, and same answer for comets and their predictive paths, etc.



People need to wake up! Or not.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Polaris remains stationary in the sky despite the Earth's wobble (axial precession) and orbit around the Sun because:

Alignment with Earth's Axis: Polaris is almost directly aligned with the North Celestial Pole, the point in the sky where the Earth's axis of rotation intersects the celestial sphere.

Great Distance: Polaris is approximately 433 light-years away, making its apparent position largely unaffected by Earth's motion. Even though Earth wobbles and moves, Polaris's distant position means it remains nearly fixed relative to our sky.

This combination of alignment and vast distance is why Polaris is always visible and appears stationary in the Northern Hemisphere.

Polaris will gradually move away from the North Celestial Pole. It will remain the North Star for several centuries, but in about 12,000 years, the bright star Vega will take its place as the North Star. In a few thousand years, the position of Polaris will noticeably shift due to Earth's precession, eventually making it no longer the North Star.

These spirals are based on the rotation of the Earth. The center point in the sky lines up with the rotational axis of the Earth.

With all this evil stuff, comes along with living in a world of free will. All we really have control of is the things we do. One place where an everlasting life does exist is in the repercussions of our actions while we are here. We cannot change the past, so choose wisely while here.

a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

the constellations are ‘just so far away’ that they ‘appear’ to always be the same.

Who is claiming that? Even the ancients were aware of precession. Where the constellations appear to shift in the sky. You know the age of Taurus, age of Aries and Aquarius. These are the shifting constellations in the sky.

Flat earth has been proven over and over again to be complete bunk. Invented by 3 letter agencies to discredit conspiracy theorists.

Just reading your thoughts on the fall of man and it occurred to me that Adam and Eve didn’t become mortal, they forgot they were an extension of immortality.

A veil of good and evil. Pick a side;black and white;illusion of choice.

Back to your wonderful thread I go.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

When you begin to doubt what has been observed for millennia, and that you can verify for yourself, and the reason you give is that you believe "they" are all lying to you, because "they" are evil, then the delusion is very strong.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

You put the effort in FlyInTheOintment.

Even if i dont agree with the claims you make.

There is no doubt about that fact.

Go to 9:42 to see how the stars move within the galaxy and universe.








a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

I could not muster the courage to read beyond the first part of the first part. I can say that because there is no evidence of the God of which you speak. It is only Nature if you want a solitary point of reference. You cannot condemn modern views on everything that is by blaming it all on a God. But I guess you can try with a few thousand words. Thanks, but no thanks.