Is Putin bluffing

Many of Putins red lines have been crossed, NATO missiles are now attacking the energy infra structure of Russia in the hope that it will weaken their resolve in Ukraine. For all intense and purpose the war in Ukraine would be long over without NATO and American taxpayers supplying the weapons and targeting skills. The final red line is that if NATO troops openly put feet on the ground in Ukraine , Russia will be at war with the country that does it. It is fairly obvious to Russia that surrounding their borders with missile sites and NATO member states is telling them what the future holds as far as the western elites go as to the future of the present Russian state. It is no secret that the West wants it cut up into bite sized peices , and have planned to do this with every policy decision made and every dollar invested in continuing the war in Ukraine. As far as Russia is concerned a greater war is inevitable and they have planned for it being a nuclear confrontation, Civilian drills have taken place and nuclear shelters are stocked.
With the latest aid package to Ukraine, the problem will be the lack of fighting age men and now women to mount a sustained counter attack , this will mean bolstering the numbers up with troops from various NATO countries. But if this is done ,it will be a declaration of open war on Russia,which in any logical interpretation would require a fist strike from the Russian defence force. Among those targeted would be the build up of NATO troops on the Russian border who will be the spearhead of a Russian invasion.But more importantly as the threat implies a Tsunami bomb which will destroy British infra structure, with the civillians so totally out of the loop regarding the threat that they are oblivious.
Isnt it all a bit too handy as it is looking like a scripted depopulation drama,with those unable to read the signs being the ones offered up to the depopulation agenda which the supposedly beligerent countries have already signed up for many decades ago.
Then when peace is finaly declared, and borders rewritten what would have been achieved is a massive depopulation event...job done? Here is a vid laying out the Russian reaction www.youtube.com...

a reply to: annonentity

Poland better Watch Out ! They are in a Dubious Position Right Now with their " Leadership " that is letting NATO Turn Poland into a Sacrificial Lamb if Russia backs Up their Threats .

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

whats funny is you think poland would be a sacrificial lamb, its not ww2 its a modern well trained military that is watching everything russia does very closely.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

whats funny is you think poland would be a sacrificial lamb, its not ww2 its a modern well trained military that is watching everything russia does very closely.

Funny. And sad.

Russia (Putin) is stuck irrevocably in the last century, in terms of philosophy, strategy, and logistics.


They are busy fighting their last war, while the West has planned, prepared for, and practiced the next War.


The proof is in what Ukraine has been able to accomplish so far with little more than the West's surplus.

a reply to: annonentity

Actually they're Ukrainian missiles.

Russia couldn't conquer a nation with around 1/4 of their population and a 'weak' military in comparison. All they have left is weak ass threats of nuclear annihilation. Do you not think western nations are also preparing or are you under the impression we're all thick as # with the foresight of a bat?

Because some strategically donated assets such as javelin systems absolutely messed up Russians and if I remember correctly you were part of the crowd that said "Ukraine will be steamrolled by mighty glorious Russia" I'm not wrong about that am I?

Apologies if I am.

a reply to: annonentity

Link to Article that the video is talking about as well as those that can't/won't watch the video

Nuclear Threat Issued to US by Russian State TV - LINK

"American decision-making centers and launch sites on land and sea are already in our crosshairs," said Kiselyov. "France, as a nuclear power, will have to be disarmed in an instant. The British Isles will simply go underwater. We have the technologies for this. And we've spoken about them before."

Putin ally makes chilling threat to sink UK under nuclear tidal wave if NATO sends troops - LINK

a reply to: annonentity

Umm...paragraphs are a beautiful thing.

Many people tend to avoid reading walls of text. But put it in paragraphs and people will read it.

That's my way of saying I just scrolled past your post. And that's a shame.

a reply to: RAY1990

The only win that Ukraine has, is in the Western propaganda bin. In the real world if it was all rosey they wouldn't need French troops let alone other NATO nations with boots on the ground.The reality is that NATO has to put up or shut up. If they put up it means a nuclear confrontation. If you were backing a horse and went on its form. You would have to admit that the USA is great for starting wars , but not that great on finishing them.

a reply to: annonentity

Depends on your definition of winning a war.

It's public sentiment at home that stops the US war machine. I'm not aware of anyone actually defeating them for a very long time.

I'm open to be proven wrong.

Yeah, Ukraine shouldn't be this far into this conflict but it is, maybe it's all that 19th century thinking with 20th century warfare...

a reply to: annonentity

Putin can frighten his own people, but he don't frighten The West and the free world.

The way to treat a bully is to stand up to them.

originally posted by: annonentity
Many of Putins red lines have been crossed, NATO missiles are now attacking the energy infra structure of Russia in the hope that it will weaken their resolve in Ukraine. For all intense and purpose the war in Ukraine would be long over without NATO and American taxpayers supplying the weapons and targeting skills.

And yet, its perfectly acceptable for Russia to receive weapons from Iran, and North Korea.

I'm starting to think there is a double standard being applied here.

I think that Putin is the kind of guy who, if he was going to lose, would use nukes to take the other side down with him. I don't think he bluffs anything. He may not be as strong as he claims, he bloviates, but his threats are not bluffs ... IMHO.

a reply to: annonentity

The tsunami bomb wont do what it says on the tin annonentity so there is that.

And if Putin should be stupid enough to launch any sort of nukes it would provoke article 5 where we would respond in kind, same as the rest of the nuclear-capable NATO nations.

Feck Putin's red lines, by the looks of it, its the white ones he's sniffing.

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originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: annonentity

Poland better Watch Out ! They are in a Dubious Position Right Now with their " Leadership " that is letting NATO Turn Poland into a Sacrificial Lamb if Russia backs Up their Threats .

Russia moved nukes to Belarus didnt they ?

They are doing the exact same thing....

They had them for decades in Kaliningrad.

Poland has a history with Russia involving lots of dead polish citizens on mulitple occasions throughout history.

Some of you Americans are funny , obsessed with the right to self defence but god forbid some poor S.O.B half a world a way wants to do the same.

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: annonentity

The way to treat a bully is to stand up to them.

So what do you think should Germany do next?