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Tucker Carlson interviews Christian pastor from Bethlehem.

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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 08:34 AM
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I looked and didn't this posted yet...

Honestly I'm not surprised this interview hasn't been posted here. As it destroys most of the Zionist narratives that have taken over this broken site.

My take away is Christianity and Islam have more in common than Christianity and Judaism.

You gotta ask yourself why do American Christians support middle-eastern policies that disproportionately harm Christians? Are they just blissfully unaware or do they not care when brothers and sisters of their faith are murdered and tortured because of bad American policies?

Take Syria for example.
The American government provides support for sectarian death squads that routinely burn Christians in cages.
Source
Meanwhile most American Christians I engage with are unaware the Syria government does more to protect Christians in Syria than the American military that is illegally occupying 30% of that country.

One thing is for sure this Israel conflict is separating the peaceful loving Christians from the evangelical judeo-christian wack jobs who actually believe in using a few million Jews a Jesus bait in Israel for the armageddon.

Like this evangelical lunatic.

Like they say don't let extremists hijack your movement. What say you Christians?



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

I'm curious.


What's the difference between 'Chosen People' and 'Master Race'?





As it destroys most of the Zionist narratives that have taken over this broken site.




I find it's better for all involved if everyone is allowed to voice their honest opinions.


Helps to know where you stand and who's who in the zoo.



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 09:41 AM
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Pffft .. that guy?
Munther Isaac .. also called "the high priest of antisemitic Christianity’.
He's a dhimmi politician wearing religious garb. He has a political agenda.
The guy calls the creation of Israel Nakba - the Arabic word for “catastrophe".
He praised the 'strength' of the Oct 7 terrorist attackers.
And Tucker Carlson is a notorious antisemite.
No surprise that Carlson would give Isaac a platform for his political rhetoric.

Even if everything the dhimmi palestinian pastor said is true, which it isn't,
it wouldn't change the fact that Israel exists and it has a right to defend itself,
and that Islam treats Jews and Christians just as bad, if not worse.

Munther Isaac - The High Priest of Antisemitic Christianity


When Tucker Carlson said he wanted to know how the government of Israel treats Christians, he opted against interviewing Israeli Christians, choosing instead to speak to a Palestinian Christian pastor who founded an anti-Israel organization and justified Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on Israel.

Isaac is a board member of Kairos Palestine, an organization launched in 2009 whose founding document makes antisemitic statements, such as engaging in replacement theology to deny the Jewish peoples historic connection to Israel. The Kairos Document calls the Torah a dead letterused as a weapon in our present history in order to deprive us of our rights in our own land. The document also states that Christian love invites us to resist, and describes the First Intifada, a campaign of attacks on Israelis as a peaceful struggle. The Kairos home page currently describes the war in Gaza as a genocide, and the organization supports boycotts against Israel.

Isaac is also the director of the Bethlehem Bible Colleges biannual Christ at the Checkpoint annual conferences, meant to promote Palestinian nationalism among Christian leaders ...


VOX


The New York Times once described Tucker Carlson’s Fox News hour as “the most racist show in the history of cable news.” In the past week, allegations of bigotry involving his new show on X have come from a rather different corner: his fellow conservatives.

The fight started April 9, when Carlson published a friendly interview with Palestinian pastor Munther Isaac. The pastor — who has reportedly praised the “strength” of the October 7 attackers — argued that Israel is no friend to Christians: It bombs them in Gaza, represses them in the West Bank, and restricts their ability to proselytize inside Israel proper. The interview went viral, receiving over 30,000 reposts so far.

Erick Erickson, a prominent radio host and former Carlson ally, spoke for many on the right when he labeled Tucker a “pro-Hamas” ally of “the antisemites on college campuses, and the terrorist-supporting progressives of the American left.” Carlson has, according to Erickson, become “willing to use his platform and formerly earned trust and reputation to persuade the easily manipulated to believe the lies he used to rail against.”







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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 09:50 AM
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originally posted by: 19Bones79
What's the difference between 'Chosen People' and 'Master Race'?


"Chosen People' - people specially chosen by God to have a special spiritual relationship with Him.

"Master Race' - a people or ethnic group considered or claiming to be superior to all others due to genetics and therefore able to dominate in worldly terms.



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

My take away is Christianity and Islam have more in common than Christianity and Judaism.




Dumbest thing I've heard all day. But hey, the days just getting started, so there's that.



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 09:54 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980


My take away is Christianity and Islam have more in common than Christianity and Judaism.


Going on right now, “the religion of peace” is in conflict with Jews, Christians, Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists.

And Syria does just fine slaughtering Christians on their own thanks.


ETA; forgot to mention the conflict among themselves. They just love conflict of any kind.
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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: JAY1980

You are very ill-informed about Syria


Assad Henchman: Here’s How We Built ISIS



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 10:33 AM
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Secondly , Isaac clearly spread lies . Yes a lying pastor uh-oh .







A week ago, American anchor @TuckerCarlson published an interview with a Pastor Munther Isaac from Bethlehem, in which he spread gross lies and misinformation about the situation of Christians in Israel and in Judea and Samaria. According to that priest's claims, Christians are fleeing Bethlehem and Gaza due to the oppression of the "occupation," and they are protesting against the separation barrier, checkpoints, and other actions by the IDF in Judea and Samaria. Carlson, through his Palestinian interviewee, exploited this issue to push members of Congress and Christian leaders in America to stop supporting Israel because of alleged crimes against the Palestinian Christian population. These are outright lies that are easy to refute. I spoke with @shadikhalloul , a prominent figure in the Christian community in Israel, who through his experience and vast personal connections is closely familiar with the realities on the ground and the actual facts. According to Khaloul what is actually happening is what he describes as “ethnic cleansing” of Christians by Muslims in Israel, the Palestinian authority, and throughout the Middle East. Backed by history and statistics, Khaloul claims that until 1994 when control of Bethlehem was transferred to the Palestinian Authority (PA), the city was a bustling center of Christian life, with most of its residents being Christians. Since the transfer of control to the Palestinians, there has been a continuous process of abandonment due to daily abuse, discrimination, intimidation, and violations of Christians' rights in the city, making their lives unbearable under PA rule. Today, less than 10% of the city's residents are Christians. And this is the case in most the the cities under Palestinian control. According to Khaloul, priests like Father Isaac, interviewed by Carlson, pay lip service to the PA by publicly supporting its narrative and promoting its propaganda. Even in Israel, the situation has become difficult. Nazareth is no longer Christian. From a city that was predominantly Christian, it has become one where less than 30% of its residents are Christians. This stems from coercive methods of liquidation, threats, and terrorizing of Christian residents who prefer to emigrate to the West or move to Jewish cities. Khaloul describes a long and systematic process by Muslims in Israel working to eliminate the Christian minority, seize their lands, and ultimately lead to their displacement. According to him, the truth on this matter is of crucial importance, as some try to distort the truth for political interests.


@akibigman

Video about the same :




Isaac comments earlyer :

Dr. Rev. Munther Isaac's (@MuntherIsaac ) interview with @TuckerCarlson aired yesterday. Tucker would like you to think this man is a centralist in the war. He's not. This interview is from 3 months ago. Be carful where you get your information from.


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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 11:06 AM
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Palestinian pastor Isaac is a board member of Kairos Palestine.
He's a dhimmi 'palestinian' activist pretending to be a Christian minister.
He pushes BDS of Israel .. it's a 'palestinian' political movement calling
for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel.
The palestinian dhimmi wants Israel to be destroyed and replaced by
a Jew-free 'palestine'.

Kairos Palestine and the Unholy Crusade against Israel


Kairos Palestine’s argument is not only political, but also theological. It declares that “the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land is a sin against God and humanity.” Israel, it states, is the “enemy” who stands in opposition to God himself. Its “occupation,” according to Kairos Palestine, “is an evil that must be resisted.”

The document portrays the struggle between Palestinians and Israelis as one between “good” (Christian, Palestinian) and “evil” (Jewish, Israeli), between those who lift up God’s name and those who profane it. Palestinians and Israelis are each assigned their roles in this carefully choreographed drama, which, regrettably, bears a striking resemblance to story lines used to demonize Jews in past eras.

The resulting narrative is far removed from the complex realities that actually shape the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis. To pick one, Hamas, which rules Gaza, rejects peace with Israel on any terms. This is a political reality that Israelis cannot ignore. Yet polling data demonstrate that a majority of Jews in Israel support the establishment of a Palestinian state at peace with Israel. What they fear, with good reason, is that this state will come under the influence of extremists such as Hamas and become a safe haven for terrorists. The Kairos Palestine document ignores this and so much more.


NGO Monitor - What is the Kairos Palestine Document


In 2009, a group of thirteen Palestinian Christian clergy, many of whom are anti-Israel activists and pro-BDS campaigners, drafted the Kairos Palestine Document. The purpose was to rally churches globally to support anti-Israel BDS, delegitimization, and demonization campaigns. The Document called for churches to “stand against injustice and apartheid…[and] revisit theologies that justify crimes perpetrated against our people and the dispossession of the land,” and “an economic and commercial boycott of everything produced by the occupation.”

Many organizations have widely denounced the Kairos Palestine Document due to its overt antisemitism. The Central Conference of American Rabbis explains that the Document “echoes supersessionist language of the Christian past, since rejected by most mainstream Christian denominations, referring to the Torah absent Christian revelation as, in the words of the Christian Scriptures, ‘a dead letter.’” The Simon Wiesenthal Center describes it as “a revisionist Document of hatred for Israel and contempt of Jews.”

The Kairos Palestine Document also drew criticism for rationalizing, justifying, and trivializing terrorism, calling it “legal resistance,” and ignoring Palestinian terror, rejectionism, and legitimate Israeli security concerns. Joseph Puder, founder and director of the Interfaith Taskforce for America and Israel, has referred to the Kairos Palestine Document as “essentially a copy of Hamas and Fatah ‘talking points’ wrapped in religious packaging.”

The Document continues to be used by numerous NGOs as a tool to target Israel and bolster BDS campaigns worldwide.


X - NGO Monitor


our research on Munther Isaac - a pastor recently given a large platform by
@TuckerCarlson
- who runs antisemitic and anti-Israel initiatives with the goal of turning Evangelical Christians against Israel.

Isaac serves on the board of Kairos Palestine - an org which promotes BDS, trivializes terrorism and denies the Jewish connection to #Israel. He is also the director of the European-funded “Christ at the Checkpoint” conferences that promote antisemitism and spread modern day anti-Israel libels.



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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 11:28 AM
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"Chosen People' - people specially chosen by God to have a special spiritual relationship with Him.




Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

Gott mit uns and all that jazz.





"Master Race' - a people or ethnic group considered or claiming to be superior to all others due to genetics and therefore able to dominate in worldly terms.



Ah, so basically a people who prefer not to mix with others lest they become bastardized.


Cool.



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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: 19Bones79
a reply to: FlyersFan




"Chosen People' - people specially chosen by God to have a special spiritual relationship with Him.




Ah, thanks for clearing that up.

Gott mit uns and all that jazz.





"Master Race' - a people or ethnic group considered or claiming to be superior to all others due to genetics and therefore able to dominate in worldly terms.



Ah, so basically a people who prefer not to mix with others lest they become bastardized.


Cool.




Reality is calling: we are all a mix



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: 19Bones79

"Chosen People" is a religious concept rooted in Judaism.

Whereas "master race" is a racially motivated term associated with the likes of white supremacists.

One's about religion and the other race.

If they are synonymous its because they both involve notions of special status or superiority.



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 01:57 PM
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Hot take, it's because American Christians are some of the worst Christians in the world.

You got the judgers who celebrate the death of a sinner like O.J. because they believe they're now in Hell.

You got false prophets preaching in mega churches.

Many Christians in America follow the Almighty Dollar instead of God.

Matthew 6:24
"No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon."

And most Christians in America lean conservative. Conservatives aren't well known for taking care of others lest they be labeled Socialist. Jesus' teachings are more in line with Socialistic philosophy.

Many American Christians support Amendment 2 but forget about Comandment 6.

Simply put, American values and Christian values aren't very compatible.

The "In God We Trust" is on the money because our God IS money.
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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 03:43 PM
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Hah, some of you folks trust Tucker Carlson over Israelis. What a mistake. Tucker is after money, fame and relevance; Israel is doing God's work. God wants Muslims in Gaza exterminated, gone, erased.

And only Netanyahu's government has been willing to do this, no one else in Israel has had the balls, EVER, to ethnically cleanse an entire population. Only Bibi has had the fortitude to do this God's work.

And when it's all done... do you know how valuable Gaza waterfront property is?

Just ask Jared Kushner, he's been talking about building new settlements in Gaza.



posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 06:48 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

My take away is Christianity and Islam have more in common than Christianity and Judaism.


bruh



You gotta ask yourself why do American Christians support middle-eastern policies that disproportionately harm Christians?


this is a pretty big assumption you’re making here.



One thing is for sure this Israel conflict is separating the peaceful loving Christians from the evangelical judeo-christian wack jobs who actually believe in using a few million Jews a Jesus bait in Israel for the armageddon.


Hoo boy.
*backs away slowly*…..


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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 07:06 PM
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my take on this thread, the op has been thoroughly debunked by several members and should be moved to the humor forum.
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posted on Apr, 17 2024 @ 07:28 PM
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This "pastor's" argument ranks alongside the blonde haired devil one.

Basically he adopted this gem of BS:


Among the antisemitic statements made at the conference over the years, collected by NGO Monitor, an organization that researches the activities and funding of nonprofits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, are: If God wanted the Jews to have the landI didnt want that God anymore! If you put King David, Jesus and Netanyahu [through a DNA test], you will get nothing, because Netanyahu comes from an East European tribe who converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages.”


Yes... For the rightful descendents of the Levant never migrated to France or Italy around the time of Jesus, having nothing to do with The Julio-Claudian rulers being f*cking dicks. Jesus was only the most noted Jew being oppressed.

That led to the post second temple other exodus that subsequently led to your Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Italki Jewish diaspora.

When my genetic test showed I have "Ashkenazi" DNA I got curious. I had a tiny bit Iberian, so I thought it might be that, but that would have been Sephardic, and the percentage was too low. My mom said her Italian ancestors were Romani, but that would be Italki if anything. In the end, it likely came from my Dad's "English Mutt" whitebread mother who added "Broadly Northern European" to my results.

The humorous thing is THE PART OF ME THAT LOOKS most like a Levantine descendent, ISN'T AT ALL the source of my Jewish DNA. And that's why people like this Pastor complain.

And people always ask if I'm Lebanese or even Persian. Middle eastern assumptions are common. The genetics that cause that are Gypsy if anything.

We've mixed and moved on since The Levant was Biblical, and that's evidenced by my whitebread ancestry being the Jewish one.
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posted on Apr, 18 2024 @ 12:51 AM
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More on what the crap terrorist sympathizer Munther Isaac has said and embraced - EXCELLENT article on the fact that Christians are persecuted in Muslim lands .. not in Israel. Munther Isaac lies. No other word for it.


Gatestone Institute - Christians Prefer Israel, Not Palestinian Authority


"[T]hose of us who track these things know that Munther Isaac has long been the high priest of antisemitic Christianity," said Reverend Johnnie Moore, president of the Congress of Christian Leaders, "sadly, he spreads his hate from the city of Jesus' birth."

"Since Oct. 7," Moore added, "Isaac seems to have graduated from being an anti-Zionist Lutheran preacher to a terror sympathizer. There's really just no other way to describe him."

Jonathan Elkhoury, a Christian refugee from Lebanon granted Israeli citizenship, said he was "appalled and ashamed" at Carlson's choice to invite Isaac onto his show, preferring "rhetoric of lies and misinformation about Israel or its treatment of minorities" rather than "a voice that speaks about Christian life in the Holy Land."


Confirmation on what has been revealed before - Isaac embraces the rhetoric of "If God wanted the Jews to have the land .. I didn't want that God anymore". He hates Jews so much that he'd deny God if God gave Israel to the Jews. Saying you'd dump God because He does something you don't want politically is DEMONIC in the eyes of Christianity.


Isaac is also the director of the Bethlehem Bible College's biannual "Christ at the Checkpoint" annual conferences, meant to promote Palestinian nationalism among Christian leaders, or as they put it, "challenge evangelicals to take responsibility to help resolve the conflicts in Israel-Palestine by engaging with the teaching of Jesus." Its manifesto states that "the occupation is the core issue of the conflict."

Among the antisemitic statements made at the conference over the years, collected by NGO Monitor, an organization that researches the activities and funding of nonprofits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict:

"If God wanted the Jews to have the land... I didn't want that God anymore!"



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