Men who stare at goats

I just heard a radio interview with Jon Ronson, the author of a book on the US military's efforts to develop super-powers. It's called Men Who Stare at Goats because a part of the story deals with the military trying to see if soldiers could make the heart of a goat stop using only their mind -- the soldier's mind, not the goat's.

Anyway, as the interview was ending, they mentioned that the author wrote Them: Adventures with Extremists. Among other things, he spends time with Icke and sneaks into ultra-secret, and evidently ultra-adolesent, Bilderberg rituals.

Has anyone read this book? Seems like perfect fodder for our sort.

I'm also wonder about people's impressions of Ronson's agenda. He seems wide-eyed innocence in the interview, but I can easily see some group (Bilderberg?) paying someone to talk to a bunch of silly people, then include an absurd account of their activities in with the rest of the harmless loons. That way, everyone can smile and nod, feel superior to those who think there is something sinister about Owl-worshiping world leaders, and move along.

I think, during the interview, Ronson even halfway suggested this. He pointed out that he thinks the military deliberatly leaked that they were using the "Barney" song in music-torture (play it loud, over and over for 48 hours while flashing a strong stobe light in the subject's eyes). Everyone would laugh at the idea of the Barney connection and suddenly torture is cute, amusing, and not something you feel outraged about.

It is, in a way, the same pattern I'm suggesting his first book might follow.

Anyway, your thoughts?

Yeah, I got 'Them' in 2001. It's all about lizard-men, conspiracies and (of course) includes visits by Ronson to both the Bilderberg conference and Bohemian Grove. It's an interesting read and Ronson to his credit doesn't state conspiracy as fact but 'asks the 'question' quite a lot. His writing style is easy going but one is left with the lingering belief that he's just a journo trying to make some easy money on a subject that is known to sell books.

Ronson has also done programmes on the BBC along these and similar lines.

And so much for masons not reading this sort of stuff - it's read and been on my bookshelf since it was published.

perhaps the following might give some insight into the mind set of " Journalists"

News anchors, Dan Rather, Peter Jennings and Cokie Roberts, along with their Marine aide, were captured by terrorists. They were all to be killed.

The leader of the terrorists asked if they had a last request.

Dan Rather said, "Well, I'm a Texan; so I'd like one last bowlful of hot spicy chili." The leader nodded to an underling who left and returned with the chili. Rather ate it all and said! , "Now I can die content."

Peter Jennings said, "I am Canadian, so I'd like to hear the song "O Canada" one last time." The leader nodded to a terrorist who had studied the Western world and knew the music. He returned with some rag-tag musicians and played the anthem. Jennings sighed and declared he could now die peacefully.

Cokie Roberts said, "I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe someday someone will hear it and know that I was on the job till the end." The leader directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder and Roberts dictated some comments. She then said, now I can die happy."

The leader turned and said, "And now, Mr. U.S. Marine, what is your final wish?"

"Kick me in the ass," said the Marine.

"What?" asked the leader. "Will you mock us in your last hour?"

"No, I'm not kidding. I want you to kick me in the ass," insisted the Marine. So the leader shoved him into the open, and kicked him in the ass.

The Marine went sprawling, but rolling to his knees; he pulled a 9 mm pistol from inside his cammies, and shot the leader dead. In the resulting confusion, he leapt to his knapsack, pulled out his M4 carbine, and sprayed the Iraqis with gunfire. In a flash, all the Iraqis were either dead or fleeing for their lives.

As the Marine was untying Rather, Jennings, and Roberts, they asked him, "Why didn't you just shoot them from the get-go? Why did you ask them to kick you in the ass?"

"What," replied the Marine, "and have you three ass-holes call ME the aggressor?

Originally posted by driley
Everyone would laugh at the idea of the Barney connection and suddenly torture is cute, amusing, and not something you feel outraged about.

I wouldn't laugh at that. That song is torturous. Add in some strobe lights and I would go into a psychotic rage like somebody high on angel dust!

BTW, what does "ultra-adolescent" mean exatly? Does that mean they like to play with Legos or something??

Peace

driley, if you do a search on ats there is already lots or at least a fair ammount on The men who stare at goats good luck with the search.

Is there? I've never heard of them before. What sources are good?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This one for a start plus a few links not much I never realy spent to much time looking into it all properly but I do have all the episodes on tape intresting stuff to say the least.

[edit on 16/4/2005 by SE7EN]

Stalkingwolf -

Haha, that was a great story. Yet it is so very, very true in the real world =/

-wD