Heavier blackhole pair found in the universe trapped in an endless duel for 3 billion years

Astronomers have spotted the heaviest black hole pair ever seen — a duo weighing the equivalent of 28 billion suns. The black holes' combined mass is so great that they refuse to collide and merge.

The black hole binary, embedded inside the "fossil" galaxy B2 0402+379, consists of two enormous supermassive black holes circling each other at just 24 light-years apart, making them the closest black hole pair ever spotted.

Yet despite their extreme proximity, the twin monsters are locked in orbital limbo: no longer drawing any closer, they have been repeating the same interminable dance for more than 3 billion years. Astronomers are still unsure whether the black hole ballet will continue without intermission or end with a spectacular collision

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Title of the Article: Astronomers find heaviest black hole pair in the universe, and they've been trapped in an endless duel for 3 billion years


The greatest problem in astrophysics which is still unsolved is how the first black holes were created. Most galaxies (but not all) have an a supermassive black hole at their centre or an AGN (Active Galactic Nucleus) commonly known as quasar, a supermassive black hole surrounded by very large amounts of gas orbiting the black hole and hence being very luminous due to thermal radiation caused by the enormous gravitational forces that suck the material.

There is only one way these supermassive black holes have been created and it's the same mechanism that applies to the formation of all black holes. The collapse of molecular clouds of hydrogen that include space dust and other heavier elements in much smaller quantities. However at the beginning there are no heavy elements because for heavier elements to exist there must be a collapse of molecular clouds, nuclear fusion, and hence creation of heavier elements.

It only leads to one scenario where at the beginning, a few hundred years after the big bang, very cold but massive amounts of hydrogen gas collapsed to form the very first generation of stars that must have been massive and gigantic in size in comparison to the most massive and large stars that exist today. It's not yet proven but there can be other logical explanation. These stars has a very short lifespan and died very quickly to form supermassive black holes.

Perhaps these two are like cosmic anchors. They are heaven and hell, good and evil, dark and light. They are the entities of balance, and if one of them wins the universe ends. So as long as they stay in battle, the rest of existence continues obliviously on with itself.

If you like that idea, please use it in a book. I would love to read a fictional narrative on that subject. It sounds like it could be fun.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
Perhaps these two are like cosmic anchors. They are heaven and hell, good and evil, dark and light. They are the entities of balance, and if one of them wins the universe ends. So as long as they stay in battle, the rest of existence continues obliviously on with itself.

If you like that idea, please use it in a book. I would love to read a fictional narrative on that subject. It sounds like it could be fun.

It's your own idea and you could use it the way you described it. Write a short story in the appropriate forums. This isn't the only pair of black holes but there are many similar pairs of supermassive black holes. It's the most heaviest from all so far we have discovered.

Just imagine what it's like in the centre. Time shifting backwards and forwards non stop.

Crazy to imagine.

I wonder if there is a way to calculate the amount of frame dragging that has occurred, and is that even they right way to ask a question about how much spacetime is twisted up between them... Could that region be traveled at any sub light speed without falling into either singularity? Would time dilation be a significant measurable amount being that close to 2 singularities? Would the frame dragging have any unique temporal qualities?

double post.

originally posted by: SomeStupidName
I wonder if there is a way to calculate the amount of frame dragging that has occurred, and is that even they right way to ask a question about how much spacetime is twisted up between them... Could that region be traveled at any sub light speed without falling into either singularity? Would time dilation be a significant measurable amount being that close to 2 singularities? Would the frame dragging have any unique temporal qualities?

The pair is 'just' 24 light years apart. That is the distance travelled by light in 24 earth years. Still an enormous amount of distance and space between them. For black holes orbiting one another we can detect gravitational waves (ripples in spacetime).

This stuff is interesting.

I cannot wait to see a new image of our earth of its entirety. Not a composite or blue marble photoshop art.

originally posted by: UnderAether
This stuff is interesting.

I cannot wait to see a new image of our earth of its entirety. Not a composite or blue marble photoshop art.

What do you mean by this??