Great Zulu Shaman and Elder - On Alien Abduction & Reptilians

Ok, I won't copy the text, but here's the link. Please read all an keep an open mind. LINK

Sorry I can't help it, but when I came to the name David Icke, My eyes couldn't focus anylonger!

But as of the title, Yes I believe the elders of the elders of the elders knew a lot of cool stuff, but all(?) of it has been lost, since storytellers always changes their histories over time to beef them up, to make them more interesting. And the ones that learns the stories from the elders often has the ability of loose the point of perspective which would make the story correct... You might refer it to modern religion... People start analyzing things out of its sense...

Originally posted by Ulvetann
Sorry I can't help it, but when I came to the name David Icke, My eyes couldn't focus anylonger!

But as of the title, Yes I believe the elders of the elders of the elders knew a lot of cool stuff, but all(?) of it has been lost, since storytellers always changes their histories over time to beef them up, to make them more interesting. And the ones that learns the stories from the elders often has the ability of loose the point of perspective which would make the story correct... You might refer it to modern religion... People start analyzing things out of its sense...

Anyways, it's well worth reading.

I haven't read the story. But there's lots of weird stuff going on with these ancient shamans. I have read of a tribe in Africa that got starmaps on which stars and clusters were drawn which are only recently discovered using telescopes. And to think that tribe had trouble making fire. There are lots of other examples. Take the Maya, they were a very intelligent bunch, they counted in a base-20 system (we count in a base-10 system) and had a complex cosmic calendar system (one longterm and one shortterm). They also calculated the duration of a solar day (or something like that) to 11 digits after the decimal point, whereas using computers we have only calculated it to the 15th digit or so.

Again, there are plenty of other tribes with peculiar information and stories.

Interesting story. I think that this is the same one covered here...

A conversation with Credo Mutwa

Originally posted by mpeake
Interesting story. I think that this is the same one covered here...

A conversation with Credo Mutwa

The link on that thread is dead, but it probably is.

Fantastic Link in the OP, I am reading this right now and it is mind blowing. A great read for a foggy full moon night. I am really enjoying this rare interview and hope you do too.

Please forgive me, but I must share this story with you. It is one of the strangest stories that you find everywhere in Africa in shamanic secret societies and other places where the remnant of our ancient knowledge and wisdom are still preserved. It is that, originally, the Earth was covered by a very thick blanket of fog or mist. That people could not actually see the Sun in the sky, except as a nimble of light. And they also saw the Moon at night as a gentle claw of light in the sky, because there was this heavy mist. And the rain was always falling in a steady drizzle. There was no thunder, however. There were no storms.

The world was thickly covered with great forests, great jungles, and people lived in peace on Earth at that time. People were happy and it is said, at that time, we human beings did not have the power of speech. We only made funny sounds like happy monkeys and baboons, but we did not have speech as we now have it. And in those centuries, people spoke to each other through their mind.

A man could call his wife thinking about her, thinking about the shape of her face, the smell of her body, and the feel of hair as a woman. That a hunter would go out into the bush and call out for animals to come, and the animals would select one of their number which was old and tired, and this animal would offer itself to the hunter so that he may kill it quickly and take it as meat to his cave.

There was no violence against animals. There was no violence against Nature by human beings at that time. Man used to ask for food from Nature. He used to come to a tree and think about fruit, and the tree would allow some of its fruit to fall to the ground, and man would take it.

And then it is said, however, that when the Chitauli came to Earth, they arrived in terrible vessels which flew through the air, vessels which were shaped like great bowls and which made a terrible noise and a terrible fire in the sky. And the Chitauli told human beings, whom they gathered together by force with whips of lightning, that they were great gods from the sky and that from now on they would receive a number of great gifts from the god. These so-called gods, who were like human beings, but very tall, with a long tail, and with terrible burning eyes, some of them had two eyes-yellow, bright eyes-some had three eyes, the red, round eye being in the center of their forehead. These creatures then took away the great powers that human beings had: the power of speaking through the mind only, the power of moving objects with their mind only, the power of seeing into the future and into their past, and the power to travel, spiritually, to different worlds.

Here is the link again if you need it here:
www.metatech.org...

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Well I just finished both pages, what a trip. Either he has been prompted to say certain things or what he says really pulls together my personal views and perspectives based on my research finds, experience and over 30 years in UFOlogy.

His heart wrenching pleas for his people of Africa broke my heart and he is so right about how when it happens there it will also be happening elsewhere if you just look and feel the same signs Africa faced that many other Nations are now experiencing.

I saved it to bookmarks.

A great read if you have the time, just bumping this up for anyone who missed it. Really gets one thinking...

Cool thread
I love reading about shamanistic practices and Credo's exposure of the rites and the connections to todays ufology and his recounting of Zulu history and African history is just facinating..
great Sunday reading.

Fand S