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Who owns the lands of Ukraine

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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 05:02 AM
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Hello ATS!

In 2021, a law on the sale of land came into force in Ukraine. As the Australian National Review neatly reported,


“US companies have taken advantage of the new legislation to invest massively in the country.”


Now Cargill, Monsanto and Dupont (investors - Vanguard, Blackrock and Blackstone) own 40% of Ukraine's arable land. For permission to sell land, Nezalezhnaya received a $17 billion loan from the IMF, and offices of all three corporations opened in Kyiv.

GMA-corporation "Monsanto" directly and through a number of intermediary companies already in 2022 owned 78% of the land fund of the Sumy region, 56% of the Chernihiv region, 59% of the Kherson and 47% of the Nikolaev region, it also pledged 34% of the land in the Kyiv and Dnepropetrovsk regions areas.

Also in 2013, the South China Morning Post reported that China (represented by the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps) had acquired 3 million hectares of Ukrainian land - land the size of Belgium "leased for 99 years with an option to buy." Then Ukraine abandoned China with grain, credit and Motor Sich - and China demanded that everything be given away in land.


The result is that, according to The Wall Street Journal, “a tenth of Ukraine’s arable land (regions not specified) belongs to China.” Experts believe that after the CBO, Chinese corporations will replace American landowners, or at least Beijing will bargain with Moscow about this.

In February 2023, a scandalous study by the American Oakland Institute about landowners in Ukraine was published. We quote verbatim - “28% of Ukraine’s arable land is owned by a mixture of Ukrainian oligarchs, European and North American corporations, as well as the sovereign wealth fund of Saudi Arabia.” The scientists also reported that the owners of Ukrainian (on paper) agricultural holdings “have long been the American NCH Capital, the French AgroGeneration, the German ADM Germany, KWS, Bayer and BASF, the Saudi PIF and SALIC.”

In the end, American researchers come to an astonishing conclusion: the Russian NWO “is taking place on black soil that was long ago sold to foreigners” (by the way, the Russians will have to clear them of mines).

And I’m not yet writing about minerals in the ground - otherwise The Washington Post was already suffering that in addition to new territories worth $12.4 trillion, Russia “will receive the main mineral reserves of the former Ukraine.” Which were already divided by the USA, France and China even before Russia launched the Special Military Operation.

Thank you.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

The Australian National Review, you had to dig to find that didn't you, but it helps with your regimes propaganda push I suppose?

I mean, this was the website that tried to say Aus' was releasing the cholera vaccine 'via chemtrails'. For someone who claims to know that western media is all fake, you do seem to like pushing fake crap on here.

Also from your WallStreet Journal link..


Over the past few years, Chinese buyers have bought farmland in countries ranging from the U.S. and France to Vietnam. In 2013 Hong Kong-based food giant WH Group bought Smithfield, America’s largest pork producer, and more than 146,000 acres of Missouri farmland. In the same year, Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps bought 9% of Ukraine’s famously fertile farmland, equal to 5% of the country’s total territory, with a 50-year lease. (In 2020, the U.S. imposed sanctions on the Chinese company over human-rights abuses.) Between 2011 and 2020, China bought nearly seven million hectares of farmland around the world. Firms from the U.K. bought nearly two million hectares, while U.S. and Japanese firms bought less than a million hectares.


Because of China's rapid industrialization, it now needs to import food at a growing rate and so has been buying up land across the world and not just in Ukraine. Are you going to rant about those other countries too or just Ukraine?
I can't be bothered to show how incorrect your propaganda trip on Ukraine is here, and people on the forum can see through your constant Russian 'spin' on the subject of Ukraine.

It's funny that your little propaganda pieces are in very good English, yet your own replies to members seem like they're written by someone else because of how poorly they're put together. Like you've been given stuff to post or something??

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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 05:34 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

That's certainly a lot of words to say Russia has no claims over Ukraine and needs to stop their illegal war.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 05:50 AM
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originally posted by: Threadbarer
a reply to: RussianTroll

That's certainly a lot of words to say Russia has no claims over Ukraine and needs to stop their illegal war.


Your problem is that you constantly think that someone owes you something. If you don’t want complete collapse, my advice is to give up your own superiority and the policy of neocolonialism. Thieves always end up in prison.
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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 05:53 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll




Thieves always end up in prison.


You should tell that to Putin after stealing land from the Ukraine....




posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:06 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage

You should of just typed Russia Russia Russia.

Much quicker.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage

What exactly did Putin steal from you? Specifically for you.

But your governments, accustomed over many decades and centuries to only stealing, are now stealing Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves. But Russians always come for their money, mind you.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:20 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Soo... What's your point?
That your Putin is stealing the Chinese and American lands instead of Ukrainian ones?
Alrighty then.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:27 AM
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Looks like a NWO Marxist-Corporatist major operation! 😧



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:31 AM
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originally posted by: twistedpuppy
a reply to: RussianTroll

Soo... What's your point?
That your Putin is stealing the Chinese and American lands instead of Ukrainian ones?
Alrighty then.



Chinese lands are in China, and American lands are in the USA. And in Ukraine there are Russian lands that the Americans are stealing from the Russians through fraud.
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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:40 AM
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What exactly did Putin steal from you? Specifically for you.

Again, it looks like you can't seem to understand basic English. I said...


You should tell that to Putin after stealing land from the Ukraine....

Does it look like I said Mad Vlad was stealing from me, it's there in the sentence I wrote??




But your governments, accustomed over many decades and centuries to only stealing, are now stealing Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves. But Russians always come for their money, mind you.

You mean the criminal oligarchs money?? Good luck with that and your empty threats.
www.theguardian.com...


The big question facing delegates at the Ukraine recovery conference, hosted by the UK and Ukrainian governments this week, is who will pay the estimated $400bn (£310bn) bill for Ukraine’s postwar reconstruction.

The obvious answer is: Russia and its oligarchs. About $400bn of frozen Russian assets currently sit on western shores, the result of sanctions measures levied since the beginning of the war. This tempting pot includes immobilised assets of Russia’s central bank, and frozen assets owned by oligarchs and other Kremlin associates. Many have suggested this money could be transferred to Ukraine, where it conveniently matches the cost of needed reconstruction funds.


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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

The Ukrainians don't want you there.

Go home and leave them alone in their own lands.

And to make their own decisions.

Problem solved.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:47 AM
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Chinese lands are in China, and American lands are in the USA. And in Ukraine there are Russian lands that the Americans are stealing from the Russians through fraud.


So land in China is Chinese and land in America is American. Shouldn't the rest of your sentence say land in Ukraine is Ukrainian and Russia should give back the land it's stolen?



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:49 AM
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I do.

Now everybody get the hell out and tell Joe I'm gonna need 100 billion to clean the carpets.

You guys are messy.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:50 AM
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a reply to: Kurokage

Yeah lets follow his logic.

Chinese land belongs to China.

American land belongs to America.

And Ukrainian land belongs to Russia.

You expect better from a primary school wean Kurokage.
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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: RussianTroll

The Ukrainians don't want you there.

Go home and leave them alone in their own lands.

And to make their own decisions.

Problem solved.


Present a notarized power of attorney allowing you to speak on behalf of Ukrainians.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:53 AM
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originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Kurokage

Yeah lets follow his logic.

Chinese land belongs to China.

American land belongs to America.

And Ukrainian belongs to Russia.

You expect better from a primary school wean Kurokage.


Blinken: “My Jewish grandfather fled pogroms in Russia.”

It is a well-known fact that Blinken’s Jewish grandfather left Kyiv for the United States, and before that he lived in the Poltava region.

You don't trust your Secretary of State? Is he really lying?)))



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Present one it belongs to Russia, that might be nice don't you think considering who is invading.

Your logic holds about as much water RT as a sieve, simple as that really.

Freedom to Ukraine and down with the Russian scum invaders.



posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:57 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

More piss-poor anecdotes that prove sweet feck all.

Ukrainian land belongs to Ukraine.

Im allowed not to trust the Secretary of State and can say so as i please about government w@nkers.

If only you could claim the same without being picked up off the streets and sent to the front lines.

Or imprisoned for having an opinion for 15 years that might be nice.

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posted on Feb, 22 2024 @ 06:59 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll


Chinese lands are in China, and American lands are in the USA.


You were going so well RT....and then this:



And in Ukraine there are Russian lands......


Using the logic you yourself were applying it should read: in Ukraine there are UKRAINIAN lands - NOT Russian.



.... that the Americans are stealing from the Russians through fraud.


Buying land and property in accordance with the sovereign nations laws is NOT fraud.

Invading a country that you had previously sworn not to invade with the specific purpose of stealing their land could be construed by many as a type of fraud to say the least.



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