In Spain, pilot Kuzminov, who hijacked a Russian helicopter, was allegedly found dead.

a reply to: Xtrozero

Those two were not so much traitors as sworn enemies?

a reply to: Xtrozero

So how do we compare this to let's say Abu Baqir Al-Saadi or even Bin Laden?

Or Muammar Gaddafi, it did not end very well for the likes of him either.

The killing of Abu Baqir Al-Saadi is causing problems if we are honest, whether or not one agrees with the action of the US or not. And will probably continue to do so for a while.

Now where Bin Laden is concerned, there was the international coalition led by the USA and the invasion of Afghanistan to destroy Al-Qaeda, which Bin Laden was the founder of and the recognised leader.

George Bush made a public vow to capture or kill Osama bin Laden live on TV which i imagine the majority of us can still remember happening.

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Good news is they still lived longer than being sent to the front

Set an example, come to the front yourself. True, I do not guarantee that you will return home in a bag, like all mercenaries)))

Including your own Wagner Group?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: RussianTroll

as an apologist for a regime that has deliberately targeted civilians for two years now

Ummm..."Extraordinary claims...require extraordinary evidence"...Citations...Proof...Quotations...Sources...

Your claim of...

deliberately targeted civilians

...is specious...disingenuous...and...unsupportable by fact or truth...

Your obviously confused and conflating the IDF and Israel deliberately targeting the Gaza civilian population...with Russia...

Please...no MSM three letter mouthpiece of the three letters...everyone knows how propaganda rich those...ahem...entertainment programs are...






YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

So, Russia has not continually bombarded Ukrainian cities with drones, kalibers, s300's, glide bombs, cluster munitions and the rest for the past two years?!!!


Citations? Proof?

Hardly extraordinary claims.

What do you think they are using, love bombs?

As for IDF, post in another thread.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: RussianTroll

originally posted by: Xtrozero
Good news is they still lived longer than being sent to the front

Set an example, come to the front yourself. True, I do not guarantee that you will return home in a bag, like all mercenaries)))

Including your own Wagner Group?

Ummm...what Wagner group...?

?



YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

Not keeping up?

This one:

www.britannica.com...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: YouSir

So, Russia has not continually bombarded Ukrainian cities with drones, kalibers, s300's, glide bombs, cluster munitions and the rest for the past two years?!!!

Ummm...There are no provable...verifiable...or truthful claims of intentional targeting of civilians by Russia...

Again with the conflation...

Your obviously confused...again...


There are however proven accounts of Ukraine intentionally targeting civilians...with cluster and other munitions...


Ukraine even targets their own POW's...which they've done on multiple occasions...The latest mere weeks ago...with a pair of patriot missiles...








YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

"Ummm..."Extraordinary claims...require extraordinary evidence"...Citations...Proof...Quotations...Sources..."

Extraordinary claims?

Like this hasn't happened?

Knock knock.

Reality calling?

a reply to: YouSir

Several Ukrainian cities and towns might want to have a word with you.

Like Kyiv?

For example.

a reply to: YouSir

How's about "indiscriminate '?

Or do you want proof, citations, sources, links like a keyboard warrior who can't see the obvious when it's blindingly obvious?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2


Ummm...well...you really don't think I'm just going to...take your word for it...Right...?


Right...?





YouSir

a reply to: Oldcarpy2


Ummm...you made the claim...

Now back it up...

Prove your...ahem...opinion...







YouSir

a reply to: RussianTroll

So a traitor who killed two fellow countrymen and stole a very valuable piece of equipment that he deliveredto the enemy gets taken out by the special service unit of Russia.

Well that is karma for you RT do bad things and bad things happen back , I would have made him suffer longer and poisoned him

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

So, Russia has not continually bombarded Ukrainian cities with drones, kalibers, s300's, glide bombs, cluster munitions and the rest for the past two years?!!!

The difference between Russia and others like America IDF and even Ukraine is that Russia is 100% indiscriminatory in their actions as to whether civilians are killed or not. Most of what they use is not guided in any way, just aim in some direction and fire blowing up everything as they rain down 1 million artillery without a thought.

Who else in this world would build this just to do mass casualties?

a reply to: YouSir

Here you go

www.ohchr.org...

"From 24 February 2022, which marked the start of the large-scale armed attack by the Russian Federation, to 24 September 2023, OHCHR recorded 27,449 civilian casualties in the country: 9,701 killed and 17,748 injured"[

www.reuters.com...


The "tip of the iceberg" according to the UN
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