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Positive Impacts of a New Middle East War

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posted on Oct, 18 2023 @ 07:06 AM
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originally posted by: VulcanWerks


- Potentially damage China/Russia


Everything they've done recently has brought them closer together, made most of the world's population look to China as the future and strengthened Russia's ties with some very important allies. Of course the propaganda says otherwise, but reality doesn't care.


- Reimagine opec+


So far OPEC has backed Russia all the way. Every time the US asks a favour they do the opposite. Some of them (including the Saudis) are preparing to trade oil and gas for non US currency (some already have, to France for example). The wests push for renewable energy, along with the arrogance of thinking they could price cap Russian oil was probably the final straw.


- Dramatically reduce terrorism


The largest and most prolific terrorist organisation on earth is the US State Dept. As their power continues to fade, so will their terrorism in all likelihood.


- Unify the US and/or clearly weed out those who support terrorists.


As their elites find ever more inventive ways of siphoning wealth from the people, division in the US is likely to get worse.

A wider regional war in the middle east could also require direct US involvement and depending on who gets involved, it might not amount to the weakling forces the US usually picks on. Then again, they just lost a 20 yr war to a group of sandal wearing peasants brandishing antiques and home made weapons so...


- Eliminate rogue regimes


Assuming "rogue"= those who stand in the way of the US, they really have lost their mojo there. The last few regime change operations in Syria, Afghanistan and Russia have failed spectacularly.


- Build up our industrial base (maybe employ former UAW people)


That ship sailed long ago and you weren't even there to wave goodbye. Part of the plan to scuttle the German economy (by denying them cheap energy) also involves incentives to entice their industry to the US (lovely people aren't they?) but it's unlikely to amount to much.

India will be the next giant to overtake the US. Unfortunately what little (apart from weapons) the US does still make is overpriced rubbish. The days of the US being an industrial giant are gone.

The reason for this was short term corporate greed.


- Increase our income from arms sales and have reason to further arm NATO


Nato country leaders are obviously corrupt and inept, but they might have a difficult time swaying their public after the Ukraine fiasco and the sudden drop in living standards. The alliance is heading for problems.


- Spread Russia thin to where they may have to draw from their Arctic ambitions - while NATO expands


The Russians had little trouble thwarting the US in Syria without needing much in the way of forces. They also have countries like China and India (although there are many others) who have every interest in a stable and healthy Russia.


- Gives us a real test to see if Turkey should be in NATO.


You might not have noticed but Nato (and the entire western world) has been waging an economic war as well as pooling its military resources in a combined effort to collapse Russia. Not only has it failed to have much effect, but most countries are far worse off for their efforts.

Nato it is becoming less relevant by the day.


Done right, there’s a great deal of progress that can be made.


If it's done wrong, which is more likely, the damage will be irreparable. All that progress the US made by financing the last two European wars (and the sitting out until they were won) allowing them to enforce a ponzi scheme on the world is fast drawing to a close.

Richard Wolff has it correct here. It's not a matter of "if", because it's already happened. It's just a matter of how fast the decline will be. The "non west" has only had to sit back and watch the west implode. The US is in desperate need of sensible leadership, but going by the last few decades there's not much chance of that happening.

The next decade won't be a happy one for the west.





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