Secret Service Agent Who Was With JFK Raises new Questions About Assassination

originally posted by: Observationalist

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Observationalist
What did Jackie grab off the trunk of the car, detonator?.

From what I read, she grabbed part of his skull that shattered off.
In the frenzy of the moment, she said she was going to put it back on.
I read that somewhere long ago.

What type of bullet can explode a head and launch skull fragments.
She moved more like an agent trained for crisis and less like a cute little woman in a cute little pink outfit.

Any high velocity projectile striking the skull will do what was seen. Hydrostatic shock is the reason. Snipers call a head shot a "canoe" as it will often empty a skull of contents.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: FlyersFan

You can clearly see from the Zapruda footage (not sure how it’s spelt) that JFK is shot from the front as his head and body slams backwards upon impact, before slumping forwards…

Anyone who has looked even slightly into this knows Oswald was a patsy and the CIA teamed up with the Mafia in the assassination. America has been rotten at the core ever since, it’s not alone in that assessment however, there is a global criminal network pulling the strings in world affairs.

JFK was special & stood for all of us . MLK stood for all of us & you see where that led to .
The JFK assignation is a real conspiracy & tragedy in our country.

It's too bad we lost our resident expert on this subject. I'd love to know what he thinks of this story.
At least he knows the truth now.

I've never believed the "official" story.
Thanks for bringing this to us.

a reply to: FlyersFan

I'm surprised they didn't make Pete Buttigieg head of the FBI since he is a modern day J. Edgar Hoover born again. That's how bad its become, and the CIA is even worse.

a reply to: Observationalist

any bullet fired from an ar-15 would do that, hell, JB said it would blow your whole lung out!

originally posted by: MrPillowpants
a reply to: Observationalist

any bullet fired from an ar-15 would do that, hell, JB said it would blow your whole lung out!

I’m sure it’s possible too, I’m not a gun guy though.
If you watch the Z film free of guns and bullets as a context would you instantly think a bullet from a distance made that big of an impact?

If so..
What caliber and at what range?
Would the explosion be at the entry point or exit point?

a reply to: surfer_soul

I'd love to hear your thoughts on this global criminal organization controlling world affairs. No sarcasm intended I'm generally interested.

a reply to: Lurker81

You could try watching the Godfather trilogy for some clues. Or consider who it was that said “Give me control of a nations money supply, and I care not who makes it laws”
You might want to consider who Epsteins clients were and why they aren’t being investigated. Or you could ponder who was being referred to when a certain president said “there is an organisation so powerful, so pervasive, that they have infiltrated every institution we have, that one dare not speak openly against them”
It could be that our struggle isn’t so much “against flesh and blood but powers and principalities”

So it’s not one or even a group of individuals, but some other force or motivating factor driving their goals and ambitions. What that is exactly is where it gets tricky.

I would like to hear your thoughts?

a reply to: surfer_soul

Sure. I've watched the Godfather movies, albeit that was some time ago.

I'm familiar with the rabbit holes of Epstein's clients and have thought critically about that whole situation. I think that was a great way for people to finally become awake and see some of what the "elitists" are taking part in.

My thoughts are......usually "out there" in regards to what is accepted by the mainstream. My ideas are out there, because like many on this forum, I've gone down one rabbit hole to another, time and time again. But what I've started to notice is a pattern of connectivity and operability between certain people, families, groups and agencies; and how this pattern of interconnectivity has operated throughout recent history.

Because of this I do agree though that there does seem to be some hidden type of group driving world affairs, a group no one knows or talks about, even within this forum.

I've even begun to think that many actual global criminal groups operate outside that particular hidden group and are autonomous in their illegal activity. Perhaps though, there is some bleedover from one criminal underworld to another underworld. I wouldn't be surprised.

A critical or analytical mind surely has to see that, yes indeed there is some force driving that wackiness that has been occuring for possibly hundreds of years. That particular President, in my mind, was right on the money in his statement.

The big question is why? Control? Money? Hidden history? Knowledge Otherworldly reasons? I don't know.

a reply to: Lurker81

I think it’s about control, but not only that, a need to keep the masses down and in their allotted place, to prevent us from achieving our potential. Because of bloodlines they look down on us as inferior on the one hand but on the other they fear us.

a reply to: surfer_soul

I agree with this. Although by keeping us away from our potential they are keeping themselves from theirs as well. Odd. Perhaps, it's part of the control aspect, allowing us to achieve "our potential" only in their terms.

a reply to: Lurker81

I was going to expand on the the previous post I made and will do, I’m just really busy at present.

But just curious to know why you think by keeping us from achieving our potential they are also stopping themselves from doing so as well?

a reply to: surfer_soul

Well think about it, the "elite" are still human just like the rest of us. And throughout history it has typically not been just the elite pushing humanity forward. Humanity as a whole collective in certain societies pushes forward, and slowly.

I guess what I am trying to convey is that by holding us, "the rest of us" back, they are essentially holding themselves back as well. Because they are us and as you stated above they are afraid of what WE may become and that is a reason for controlling us. But ultimately enacting control over us and not letting us, or mapping us in their preconceived view of where we should head towards in terms of potential is ultimately keeping themselves in the dark too.

If that makes sense?

Well think about it, the "elite" are still human just like the rest of us.

a reply to: Lurker81
Are you sure?
They seem more like demons, they certainly don't act human. Imagine if we had kind hearted humans representing their constituents best interest, instead we have generational creatures ruling us in the name of democracy. They manufacture consent through phony polls and propaganda. The alphabet agencies have spied on Trump and whomever they so choose, they lie to the courts or even worse most courts will just go along knowing it's a sham. This goes on in the highest levels of local, state and federal governments..media and corporations unite to as well. Human? Not sure if they are or if they are being guided by non-humans. What they are doing to children, trans gender, sex trafficing. One has to wonder.

a reply to: Lurker81

I remember someone putting it like this, it’s not that powerful have gained power, rather that they taken it away from the rest of us. By various control mechanisms such as finance and education, they have deprived us of our agency manifest our true potential.

What is our true potential? Well we our co-creators of our reality, we have latent abilities that we our told aren’t real, let alone encouraged to develop.
We were born into this system so it’s difficult to imagine another way, most people think the various institutions are there for our benefit when in fact the reverse is true.

As an example we think it’s amusing when a stage hypnotist performs their act and manipulates people to do foolish things, but have we ever considered the majority of us might in fact be in a kind of hypnotic state most of the time? This is particularly evident when we see the reactions in people to certain trigger words or phrases, exactly how hypnotist operates…

In short we are under a spell, and not only do we not realise it, we are unaware that we too are latent magicians with the power to break it.

The so called elite know this, they hold us back because it benefits them to sustain or gain their power, which is what megalomaniacs crave above all else. We can say they are sociopaths or that they in turn might be under the influence of dark forces.

Could this be why they wanted to keep the records sealed?
Because he actually testified this back then, but it didnt fit with the narrative they chose...

Opening the records would expose the misconduct of the entire case and place a lot of "important" people in jeopardy