How Trump Can Pardon Himself in Georgia

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: WingDingLuey

You may want to re-read your Constitution.

i just did

what did i miss?

originally posted by: olaru12
I wonder who leaked the names and addresses of the Jurors.

www.usatoday.com...

leak had to come from courthouse right?

all sealed right?

how we know if real?

who own courthouse?

a reply to: WingDingLuey

all sealed right?

Nope. Georgia law stipulates that grand jurors' aren't sealed.

Lol
The same chumps defended protesting scotus judges at their homes.
But but but …..


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originally posted by: WingDingLuey

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: WingDingLuey

You may want to re-read your Constitution.

i just did

what did i miss?

A sitting president can be impeached for just about that anything that Congress disapproves of, like lying about getting a blow job.

But, the Constitution doesn't protect a sitting president, or anyone, from civil or criminal prosecution. In fact, the 14th Amendment guarantees just the opposite.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

the us president still has some royal porogatives, the us sc set those powers eqiv to the crown in 1787 something, so Biden has similar powers to king George in that regard, its informally known as the prerogative of mercy and incoporated into us law, its actually a very interesting read if you have the time, the 1970s where an interesting us presidential period, as similar periods the idea a pres can commit treason and pardon themselves has been discussed many times but no limits have been set on the prerogative of mercy.. so as yet its one of those progatives thats not ben tested.

Chief Justice Marshall 1755 to 1835

The Constitution gives to the President in general terms, "the power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States."

As this power has been exercised, from time immemorial, by the executive of that nation whose language is our language, and to whose judicial institutions ours bear a close resemblance; we adopt their principles respecting the operation and effect of a pardon, and look into their books for the rules prescribing the manner in which it is to be used by the person who would avail himself of it.

A pardon is an act of grace, proceeding from the power entrusted with the execution of the laws, which exempts the individual, on whom it is bestowed, from the punishment the law inflicts for a crime he has committed. It is the private, though official act of the executive magistrate

to throw this out there this is one one the PDFs I've read from the 70s.. the preamble goes like this highlighting similar concerns for what is a presidential power thats been unchecked since the birth of the USA.

The Constitution of the United States specifically invests the President with the power "to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."' This power is not among the most awesome powers of the American Chief Executive; it is, at best, his most benevolent power. This capacity for benevolence, however, has not inspired this study.

The Article was prompted, rather, by the complacent acceptance of an apparently benign executive gift that cannot be checked by the other branches of government. This lack of restriction on the exercise of the power suggests that it is time to consider alteration of the President's pardoning power.

the extract come from here, William and Mary law review..
The President's Power to Pardon: A Constitutional History

a reply to: nickyw

Yeah.

But I was addressing this comment from WingDingLuey:

only congress can exercise a remedy against a president

all these charges were incurred by a sitting president

The impeachment process is remedy only Congress can use. However, the US Constitution doesn't protect a sitting president from indictment. For example, if (sitting) President Trump shot someone on the sidewalk on 5th Avenue in New York, there's nothing in the Constitution that proscribes the State of New York from arresting and charging him with homicide. In fact, the 14th Amendment requires it.

I'm amazed anyone even cares about Trump at this point.

originally posted by: Degenerabalus
I'm amazed anyone even cares about Trump at this point.

I'm even more amazed that new accounts keep popping up complaining about all things Trump.

Wait, no I'm not. Seems to happen every election cycle.

a reply to: JinMI

If Trump Is Indicted , What Do THEY Do ....Hmm......

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

At least they are consistent?


I guess?

a reply to: JinMI

Serious Question , Is Mr. Trump Smarter than Adolf Hitler ? ...........Hmm.........

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

At least they are consistent?


I guess?

WRONG . Top Answer Was ................NOTHING...........(

a reply to: Sookiechacha

yes thats what i said
your point was?

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: WingDingLuey

all sealed right?

Nope. Georgia law stipulates that grand jurors' aren't sealed.

oh so that means a setup frame can be true

a reply to: WingDingLuey

My point is that, even though the crimes that Trump is being accused of were committed while he was a sitting president, Trump can still be indicted for those crimes.

Mitch McConnell made it clear that Congress couldn't be impeached Trump for crimes he committed while in office while he was out of office, but that the Judicial Branch could still hold him accountable for those crimes.

What was your point?

anybody have idea why the da never asked to seal grand jury names???

they always knew high case like trump

smell like frame set

a reply to: Sookiechacha

point same as you

why repeat?