Qumran Essenes and the Two Messiahs: In a sense the prophesy is true; this is how

This morning I woke up thinking of the Essenes. I was led to two esssays that brought an insight regarding the Two Messiahs prophesy found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Before your very eyes I can decipher this to show they were not wrong, just not quite right and detailed enough. This is an interpretation that can bind EVERYTHING together. It can clear up all loose ends. They were all right in a sense.

Here are two essays it would be a good idea to read if you need a background to my thread. My thread is directly inspired by these two essays.

The first is:

www.patheos.com...

The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Two-Messiah Theory No doubt much of the fascination that surrounds the religious group that produced the Dead Sea Scrolls has to do with the fact that they were roughly contemporaneous with Jesus of Nazareth. What is more, a cursory reading of the Scrolls reveals much of the same vocabulary that would come to define Christianity. Here is talk of God’s atonement for the sins of humanity, of the war between light and darkness, the redemption and future glory offered to those who believe, and the eternal pit of fire reserved for those who do not. It is hard not to see at least a superficial likeness to Christianity in their skeptical, detached outlook toward contemporary society, in their fear of the body and obsession with purity, and in their fervent belief that God’s guiding hand was behind the movement of history.

The second is:

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Natasha Pajda

The Essenes at Qumran:

The Concept of a Suffering Messiah The Essene community of Qumran has been of great interest to many people since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. Since people have been able to dissect and examine the writings of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the public has received a more detailed portrayal of the Essene community. This particular community is unique for the fact of their living conditions and beliefs, especially their belief of the messiah that is to come. Instead of the regular singular messiah that Christians celebrate, the Essene community at Qumran believed that there were two messiahs that will come and bring them through the end times . This essay will inform the reader of how the Essene community functioned and give insight to their belief of the two messiahs to come.

It is quite clear that in Christianity we have a Messiah that was and is to come. He doesn't come once, but comes twice. Revelation states that when He comes again it will be in a new name and He will wear many crowns as an Angel, not a human. There is quite definitely two carnations of Christ. Daniel states that the Messiah will come, then be cut off, then appear again,

"Daniel 9:26: After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed."

Do you see how Daniel is bang on here about Christ and what happened to Jerusalem and the Temple ordered by Beast Nero? The Beast also appears as multi incarnations. That is for another thread though. Daniel amazes me. I have an interpretation that fits perfectly, pointing to 2026-2027, again for another thread. I can't commit though as that would be wrong. Only God can authorize the time, place and hour.

So, before you, I have been able to show that the Two Messiahs prophesy is not wrong, but just not detailed enough in that it is the same Son of Man in both, just two incarnations; a human one born of woman and a Resurrected Angel ("They will be as the Angels", remember what Christ said? He is one already). The Two Messiahs lacks understanding that the two do not appear at the same time as two individuals, but stretched either end of the beginning of Revelation and the end of it as the same Son of Man in two incarnations and roles; the farmer as sower and reaper of the harvest.

In real terms He will return and make use of the evolution He first inspired in us to build His Kingdom upon the earth. The whole point of the first visit was to sow the seeds that would achieve God's plan of developing us as we were too barbaric and unconscious to work with at that time. We are coming to the time that is as good as any as much as the time of Christ's first coming was prepared very imperfectly by the Jews, but at least prepared. God can only work with us acording to our stage of development and evolution. We can still hardly perceive Him as it is in this time. If we continue without Him we will destroy us and everything else. The hour is upon us.

God sent the Essenes out into their isolation for a very good reason. He is keeping me isolated for a very good reason. Because of them we have these original texts of the Bible and the Book of Enoch and know it is all identical and authentic. The development of God's Theme has gone off in tangents, but all that is His returns to the Source in the light of the future and fulfilment after prediction. God had a reason for them and it has taken two thousand years for us to understand their significance and important purpose.

Do not doubt it is all real. I hope you appreciate the significance of what I have shared with you today. I am bringing the Essenes into the fold and telling you they were not wrong, but that they did not get the whole picture to see what had been put before their eyes (Christ), did not align their prophesies with Daniel correctly (it must fit the whole or it will divide the whole) and so were very confused in their visions and prophesies.

I have noticed that Revelation is written in an Essene like style in some parts. May be the John of Revelation was an exiled Essene or some other monastic sect in Israel? He was a Jew and was exiled at Patmos by the Romans. For them to exile him and not make him a slave or execute him means he probably had some friends in high places and/or had some importance of personage.

Daniel says twice. Christ says twice. The Essenes say twice. St John and all the Apostles say twice. I say twice. We are all agreed on that. The rest is just a matter of which interpretation can make all the others work too. I have done that for you here today. I asked the Lord if it is okay to share this and the vibe is a very big YES!

a reply to: Merman

Also, if you want to know the complete accuracy of Daniel's Sixty Two Sevens read this,

www.gotquestions.org...

As for our starting point, the Persian emperor Artaxerxes Longimanus (who ruled from 464-424 BC) issued the edict to rebuild Jerusalem sometime during the Hebrew month of Nisan in the 20th year of his reign, or c. 445 BC (Nehemiah 2:1-8). From c. 445 BC, 173,880 days brings us to c. AD 32.

I wrote that Nero destroyed the Temple. It was he who started the war that destroyed the Temple. It was Titus who actually gave the orders two years after Nero's death.

a reply to: Merman

I attended a lecture on the shroud at Sandia Labs brown bag lunch. A team had returned from examining the shroud and presented their findings in this informal setting.

This was in the mid 80s, when we had successfully cloned a sheep or two. When they said they found human blood and other body fluids on the cloth, I had an epiphany. What if science one day were to clone the man buried in the shroud. Would it be the anti-Christ, not born of natural reproduction. Or would it be the Second Coming of the Messiah?

It definately freaked me out.

BTW: I believe the evidence they discovered on the cloth verifies it as Jesus burial cloth. I believe it was left for US the science based believers.

Of course the prophecy was true. John the Baptist was the spiritual messiah. Jesus, Yeshua, was supposed to be the leader, the inspiring physical messiah. He went to John to be baptised. Symbolic.