They Are Not From This World. Elohim 'The Powerful Ones' Scary Truth of the Bible

a reply to: TTU77

If worshipping and loving God for all eternity is the highest Gift and wonder God, for his namesake and glory provides, it is right and loving for Him to command it upon His creation and children He loves, who, having free will, certainly require the instruction and precepts and more, notwithstanding ample amount of grace and mercy and longsuffering, in this fallen corrupt world.

I see no problem. For our thoughts are not his thoughts. He is holy far beyond and sees the end of all things. This is where faith, trust, and hope come in. Look to the totality of the word I say before judging anything.


If an infinetely worthy being created you and put you into an infinite universe on earth, holy being the only place of life in its entirety, with all the wonders of creation (physics, chemistry, biology) life and loves you enough to die for you - is it right or wrong to not love him after he has given you free will to choose?

What authority do you have to question or judge what God commands when looking at the totality of His word and the attributes contained therein? For he further states, He has created clay pots for use and for destruction as the maker, is that not his perogative?

Man o man I thought I was good at reasoning out our Holy Fathers intentions.
But what you wrote here blew me away. Excellent!

a reply to: Visiting ESB

Well I hope you find the wisdom to see beyond the lies the world has taught you.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: TTU77

If worshipping and loving God for all eternity is the highest Gift and wonder God, for his namesake and glory provides, it is right and loving for Him to command it upon His creation and children He loves, who, having free will, certainly require the instruction and precepts and more, notwithstanding ample amount of grace and mercy and longsuffering, in this fallen corrupt world.

I see no problem. For our thoughts are not his thoughts. He is holy far beyond and sees the end of all things. This is where faith, trust, and hope come in. Look to the totality of the word I say before judging anything.


If an infinetely worthy being created you and put you into an infinite universe on earth, holy being the only place of life in its entirety, with all the wonders of creation (physics, chemistry, biology) life and loves you enough to die for you - is it right or wrong to not love him after he has given you free will to choose?

What authority do you have to question or judge what God commands when looking at the totality of His word and the attributes contained therein? For he further states, He has created clay pots for use and for destruction as the maker, is that not his perogative?

Man o man I thought I was good at reasoning out our Holy Fathers intentions.
But what you wrote here blew me away. Excellent!

Thanks for your kind words, friend.

Made me feel quite happy.

If given a thousand years, I wouldn't come close to articulating just my mere understanding of his intentions from what I was able to gather through His word and many sermons on YT, let alone his true intentions, and no where near as beautiful as it deserves. Indeed, there are no words. It's those moments in prayer and meditation upon the word where one gets most close to perceiving and understanding.

I adore His righteousness and delight to no end when I see it in people in action. His word too is my great delight, and most of all the time in meditation and prayer.

Cheers

I came back to read if any interesting posts here, besides the Christian bashing OP.

And after reading a bit, I just have this feeling I need to say this. Drugs are bad.

Oh my!
Got here late but in all honesty having the Bible tossed at both ET's & Crypto Creatures ensured I walked off quickly every time. Add that to knowing the Bible we have now is NOTHING like the original texts plus my stint of forced Catholicism in childhood pretty much ran me right off. I don't knock anyones belief or interest in the Bible but I couldn't comment either since I simply haven't cared.

Then Dr. Michael Heiser happened to me.
Oh FFS!!! Friends & family are now having the last laugh despite my protestations that none of them could explain the material sensically like Dr Heiser has done. The prodigal kid has now been hauled back kicking & screaming by the shirt collar. Sigh.

To be fair it's also been awkward since I'm not a fan of explaining everything as inter dimensional either. Altho Heisers explanations of God ( a Elohim) having created a non-corporeal "spiritual family"(more Elohim) first before Humans leaves me no wiggle room. At least I'm still left with Bigfoot as not Nephalim altho probably they're part of one of their reiterations. Vid's aren't imbedding correctly for me these two of Dr.Heisers YT's cover things.

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a reply to: TrueAmerican
appreciate your OP video & the additional presentations linked at end of OP video

Sumer encounters with the Annanuki Pantheon seem to have established the 'Matrix' before 'Christianity' claimed that Human paradigm featuring the creation of 'Adamic Mankind'....by the Creator known as WORD

Hamlet's Mill and Joseph Cambells' Hero with a thousand faces i find are also compelling reads


5 star recommendation, TYVM

A general observation……

In Annunaki lore …. Enki and Ninmah were the creator gods of humans.

In Bible lore….Genesis 1:26

26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”



Typically Angels, painted of the time of Michelangelo (Cherubs, Seraphim) were depicted having wings…….notice no wings on any of the bodies.

Did Michelangelo pull a “in plain sight” secret?

Did he know of the Annunaki lore and painted the idea of them …..in human form?

And of course the gods are airborne and arranged in an overall orbish oblong arrangement….within an unusually large cape (craft) for flight.

Hmmmm

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Undoubtedly the subject of religion continues to inject into UFOlogy.

Let’s try this on for size……..

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a reply to: TrueAmerican

David Grusch, Aliens and The Vatican: the beginning of the video recaps Grush's and the New York Times journalists and Ufologists (George Knapp) qualifications and claims.

Jump to mark 11:35 where they start discussing what the Vatican knows - jump to Grusch clip at 12:05 mark. Or jump to mark 22:10 for specifics of what ufologists may be want to view in the archives.

Jump to video in video at mark 27:00 (6 min. video) from News Nation clip of a journalist trying to get information from the Vatican.

Mark 40:00 explains the Vatican archives; that perhaps not all text there were ever looked at.



I find it suspect that the Vatican will not allow ufologists access to the archives. Why not open the archives and then open up discussions?

Pope John Paul II quote about aliens - "Always remember, they are God's children too."