Possible Gain of Function Research being Conducted in the UK

I personally advocated for a global moratorium on gain of function research, but it seems like some humans are set on destroying humanity.

UK scientists preparing vaccines for mystery ‘Disease X’

British scientists are already developing vaccines for a future ‘Disease X’ pandemic, Sky News reported on Monday. After Covid-19, the researchers believe that deadly animal-borne pathogens – including bird flu, monkeypox, and hantavirus – may evolve to infect humans.

The research is being carried out by the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) at the high-security Porton Down laboratory complex in Wiltshire.

Must not be that secure, if we know about it.

Sky News did not specify whether the scientists were conducting so-called “gain-of-function” research on these pathogens.

Can the development of modern "vaccines", for diseases that have not yet been created in a lab, be done without gain of function research?

And if you missed this, a couple of weeks ago, an illegal bio-lab was discovered in California.

‘I’ve never seen anything like this’: Illegal medical lab discovered in Reedley

REEDLEY, Calif. (KSEE/KGPE) – An investigation into a Reedley warehouse uncovered a large-scale illegal medical lab complete with bioengineered mice, infectious agents, nearly 30 refrigerators and freezers some of which were non-operational, incubators, and more leaving officials shocked and the public worried.

Like the quote in Stephen King's the Stand

" This is how the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper"

Even if it is innocently believing we have to save humanity from all viruses and bugs, they push the envelope till...

Not to mention isn't it ironic we can see when a disease hits a species of animal, and rationalize it's because their population is too big for their immediate environment, ie because it's a self-adjusting system

We never look at humanity in that light.

originally posted by: putnam6
Like the quote in Stephen King's the Stand

"This is how the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper"

I'd just like to point out that your quote was first uttered in 1925 in a poem called "The Hollow Men," written by T.S. Eliot. The full quote reads as thus:

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."


TCB

originally posted by: TrulyColorBlind

originally posted by: putnam6
Like the quote in Stephen King's the Stand

"This is how the world ends, not with a bang but a whimper"

I'd just like to point out that your quote was first uttered in 1925 in a poem called "The Hollow Men," written by T.S. Eliot. The full quote reads as thus:

"This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper."


TCB

Yes indeed you are correct, and King attributes the quote to T.S. Elliot in the book

But the opening theme of King's book itself, being mankind playing around and accidentally mega-dosing itself with a mutating virus that kills 99.97%, seems even more germane to the thread's topic than TS Elliot's The Hollow Man where the quote originates.

FWIW IIRC correctly some COVID correlation was brought up because of the passage about prickly pear appearing in The Hollow Man. but to me it appears dubious at best

originally posted by: putnam6
But the opening theme of King's book itself, being mankind playing around and accidentally mega-dosing itself with a mutating virus that kills 99.97%, seems even more germane to the thread's topic than TS Elliot's The Hollow Man where the quote originates.

So what you're saying is you should have just mentioned the theme of Stephen King's book and not introduced a quote from a hundred-year-old poem? I had no criticism of you when you did that. But if you don't think the quote from T.S. Eliot's poem was germane, why did you include it? All I did was to make sure people knew where the quote originated from. It was not a criticism of anything you did. I'm just big on poetry and wanted to set the record straight for others that might be interested as well. I'm really not criticizing you, so please don't take it that way.


TCB

Gain of function research is still going on all over the place, the China lab leak did nothing to deter it. There are still lab leaks happening even with more stringent security practices in these places. The Wuhan leak is where the first find on the covid virus showed up officially, but more labs in the world were also working with this virus and there was travel between labs. Most likely it occurred in the Wuhan lab, but there is still a small possibility it just wound up there, carried by someone from another lab carrying an active virus when they went there to share knowledge.