New green alternative fuels

This might be a game changer, I have been following "Project Farm" for a while and some of the alternative fuel experiments that he has done are an eye-opener, which no doubt fuel companies would not be too happy about. He ran a bearing test on veggie oil compared to mineral oil, which showed no real difference. So then logically if a diesel engine can run on straight cooking oil, and if castor oil was used with alcohol in the motor cross bikes, then theoretically a two-stroke might run on straight veggie oil. Of course the carb. jetting might have to be adjusted, so searching the web to see if anyone had actually tried it I came up with this, which strongly suggests that far from there being a fuel shortage, the planting of olive trees might be the better way to go, if this experiment in Canola oil is anything to go by.

When you use these kinds of fuel, you are taking oil compounds out of the soil to create oils. You are still increasing greenhouse gasses. Most of the stuff that they are proposing to make Carbon neutral energy actually causes stress on the environment. Those solar panels cause lots of damage of the environment to get the rare earth metals and their lifespan is not that long. They are now working on creating some panels that are efficient yet do not need as much rare earth metals to create, but that will be a while before they can perfect them.

Seems to me we should all start living within our means both financially and environmentally. There are so many people driving around these days and a real lot of people traveling now compared to years ago. Why do people need to fly all over the world, why do people keep buying so much of things they want but do not really need. Why are things either death dated or have planned obsolescence to them...remaking everything so often is hard on the environment. And of course our pocketbooks and credit cards.

I know a couple of guys who burn frier oils from restaurants and store delis in their specially calibrated deisel trucks. It needs to be strained and you can tell it is fryer oil when you are around the running truck, sometimes it smells like fried chicken. I have put vegetable oil in my garden a few times, but not in the potato field.

a reply to: rickymouse

You should also consider that the solar panels put rare earth metals into the area where they are installed as they break down. Some more toxic than others. Also it takes at least 120 tonns of coal to make each wind generator. Mainly to make the metal and concrete for the structure.

The suggestion of olive oil is again toxic. You can't burn the used up plants without releasing toxic gasses and they have a limited productive life. It will make a use for extra vergin olive oil without selling it to fools. The Greeks use it for ludricant and lamps as each first pressing is to clean out the gunk form the machinery.

Consider almond milk. It takes hundreds of almonds to make a gallon. It takes over a gallon of water to make each almond. Not very efficient.

All the green ideas are in no way clean. They all have there toxic and other environmental problems that none of the green religion is wlling to even talk about.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge2
a reply to: rickymouse
All the green ideas are in no way clean. They all have there toxic and other environmental problems that none of the green religion is wlling to even talk about.

As long as it isn't in their backyard, they don't care to much about the environment. Out of sight out of mind ....

a reply to: beyondknowledge2

All forests burn at some time, we try and stop it but can for only so long, the result is that the fuel which will ignite just builds up. To say olive oil is toxic when it oxidizes is not correct.

a reply to: anonentity

I said olive wood is toxic when burned. The olive trees only produce fruit for a few years then have to be removed and disposed of. This makes toxic gas when burned as that is the best way to remove the danger from the wood. Nothing very large is made of any form of olive wood for this reason. No olive wood particle board for example.

I bought some olive wood items a few years ago and they came with a warning card saying do not burn or allow it to burn indoors. It will kill you with the toxic fumes. The total was less than a couple ounces of wood.

Now multiply this problem to the extent needed to replace our current fuel and it becomes an environmental disaster. Your proposal will cause what to you is an unforeseen consequence of increased olive oil production. I am warning you of that so it can be avoided.

a reply to: beyondknowledge2

It doesn't say online that olive wood produces toxic smoke when burning....

Our olive firewood is ethically sourced from biomass waste during the olive-picking season in the Mediterranean, providing a planet-friendly way to heat your home. In addition, these olive wood logs are sustainable, super dense and aromatic, giving your fire a long, beautiful burn.

Are the olive wood items you bought stained or painted with toxic chemicals?

Green ideas would require a green industry to support them. Totally green is not possible. Lithium batteries are poisonous. Solar panels are poisonous. Wind energetic, the gear box in each is manufactured on large machines that requires oil based coolants and oil to operate. The alternatives don’t work in these applications. Tires on an electric car are oil based. Are you going to gonna k to rubber made from trees? To make tires? Modern housing requires modern building techniques…..unless you want a foam house (toxic).

Green is not green.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge2
a reply to: rickymouse

You should also consider that the solar panels put rare earth metals into the area where they are installed as they break down. Some more toxic than others. Also it takes at least 120 tonns of coal to make each wind generator. Mainly to make the metal and concrete for the structure.

The suggestion of olive oil is again toxic. You can't burn the used up plants without releasing toxic gasses and they have a limited productive life. It will make a use for extra vergin olive oil without selling it to fools. The Greeks use it for ludricant and lamps as each first pressing is to clean out the gunk form the machinery.

Consider almond milk. It takes hundreds of almonds to make a gallon. It takes over a gallon of water to make each almond. Not very efficient.

All the green ideas are in no way clean. They all have there toxic and other environmental problems that none of the green religion is wlling to even talk about.

If I remember correctly, it takes about seventy gallons of water to grow one avacado. We have a problem with ground water depletion in some areas of the country, especially in California reservours. Yet they promote avacados as super foods. There is little sanity these days.

Just like taking all the cornstocks and turning them into pellets for fuel. Removing the biomass from fields is not good, but it is common practice nowadays. They used to just plow the corn stalks into the field andd that gave bulk to the soils for future crop security. Now what are they adding to those fields, probably sewer sludge which they could turn into fuel instead of using it to replace the biomass in the fields. It seems like all the eco-friendly stuff they are doing is actually economy friendly.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

No, the olive wood items are wood sewing thembles. They are not finished in any way other than turned and sanded. Not chemically treated in any way. Just natural wood.

I worked at a plastic recycling company. Years ago, I was sent across town to pick up some plastic for recycling. It was about a 5 mile round trip. The plastic was about a pound and a half and could fit in a shoe box. It was part of a contract that we had to pick up the recyclables at that companies sales office to get the contract for their production recyclables.

The gas for the truck would have been more than the plastic but I was out getting maintenance supplies at the time which made it convent to pick up the box of plastic. I thought it was totally ridiculous because they were more interested in being seen to recycle than save resources and recycle where it really counted.

When it is more important to be seen as green, they often loose the point entirely.

a reply to: beyondknowledge2
Sounds more like a standard 'cover everything' warning to me. You know like 'may contain nuts' in the tiny warning script, on the wrapper of a bag of nuts!🤣

I've never heard of olive timber being any more dangerous to burn than regular trees...and Google agrees lol

originally posted by: beyondknowledge2
a reply to: anonentity
The olive trees only produce fruit for a few years then have to be removed and disposed of.

This is misinformation, the trees live for around 1500 years (unless they are in a pot), and produce olives from the fifth year onward.

Humans have grown olive trees for thousands of years. The oldest known olive tree is 1500 years old, but the average life span is 500 years. Olive trees are loved for their fruits, eaten fresh or brined and pressed into oil. But not all olive trees bear olives. So called “fruitless” olive trees are sterile and function as beautiful ornamental trees in a landscape setting. With many varietals of olive trees to choose from, you can narrow it down to fruitless, olives for brine and oil producing. To decide between different varietals, a trip to a tasting room or deli can determine quickly which type will fancy your palate. Then, confirm that your growing and climate conditions will accommodate the tree's specific needs. If space restrictions are a concern, you can choose a dwarf tree, or grow a compatible variety in a pot. You can even care for a potted olive tree indoors. The tree's lifespan in a pot is about 10 years. Olive trees have a high tolerance for drought and do well in CA's Mediterranean climate – sunny dry summers and mild winters. Trees can survive long periods without water, but they will drop olives during times of drought. For established trees, deep watering once per month is sufficient during the summer months.
Olive Trees

The average olive tree starts to produce olives at the age of 4-5 years and they will continue to eternity. There are findings suggesting that in some cases 1800 years old trees still produce sprouts. The olive tree responds greatly to irrigation and fertilization, while pruning is necessary at least every other year. Provided you take care of your olive trees, you will harvest an average production of 50-200 pounds (22 to 90 kg) per every mature healthy tree. Having a good understanding of Alternate Bearing is essential for cultivating commercially olive trees.
How to grow Olive Trees – Olive Commercial Cultivation