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Originally posted by WalkingHolic
Case 6 from the Gateless Gate is about the original Buddha:
Once upon a time when Shakyamuni Buddha was in Grdhrakuta mountain, he twirled a flower in his finger and held it before his congregation. Everyone was silent. Only Maha Kashapa wholeheartedly smiled. Buddha said, "I have the eye of the true teaching, the heart of Nirvana, the formless form, the mysterious gate of Dharma. Beyond the words and beyond all teachings to be transmitted, I now pass this on to Maha Kashapa."
It fits the pattern of the koans that Kashyapa found perfection in the silent gesture of the flower. A more common appreciation of the flower is of its beauty, which is motivated by love of the object.
I consider the symbolism that most of Buddha's close (disciplined) disciples understood the silence aspect of the teaching, or do by modern times, but only Kashapa reacted with simple, unconditional love.
Buddhism is not really considered rooted in Kabbalah in any way, shape, or form, but it is interesting to me that Case 6 corresponds to the Sphere of the Sun as the heart on the Tree of Life.
Originally posted by WalkingHolic
Then Ananda asked the Buddha, "What did he realize, to admire you so much?"
The world-honored one replied, "A fine horse runs even at the shadow of the whip."
This is another instance wherein one might assume the philosopher attained inner peace, and perhaps he did. I believe this inner peace is the shadow of the whip, and the fine horse symbolizes how this achievement is actually not much better than being an animal. Animals don't have an internal verbal dialogue, they exist in a just be state.
The whip could symbolize actual Nirvana, a secret not revealed.
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Gospel of Thomas Verse 50
Jesus said: If they say to you: Whence have you come?, say to them: We have come from the light, the place where the light came into being of itself. It [established itself], and it revealed itself in their image. If they say to you: Who are you?, say: We are his sons, and we are the elect of the living Father. If they ask you: What is the sign of your Father in you?, say to them: It is movement and rest.
originally posted by: Nothin
a reply to: WalkingHolic
Hi HalkingWolic,
Am not good with understanding koans, and such.
In my view : a flower is wonderous, as it grows, in it's natural state.
The human ego, wanting to possess, plucks this living thing to hold, thusly killing it.
While there may be opportunities to glimpse beauty in death, am not sure about any of it.
originally posted by: WalkingHolic
A non-Buddhist philosopher said to the Buddha, "I do not ask for words; I don not ask for non-words."
The Buddha just sat there.
The philosopher said admiringly, "The World-honored One, with his great mercy, has blown away the clouds of my illusion and enabled me to enter the Way."
And after making bows, he took his leave.
Then Ananda asked the Buddha, "What did he realize, to admire you so much?"
The world-honored one replied, "A fine horse runs even at the shadow of the whip."
This is another instance wherein one might assume the philosopher attained inner peace, and perhaps he did. I believe this inner peace is the shadow of the whip, and the fine horse symbolizes how this achievement is actually not much better than being an animal. Animals don't have an internal verbal dialogue, they exist in a just be state.