originally posted by: Untun
Creation is yours. Do let you do you.
Once again, you are on the right path
In Illumination, we are taught:
Let God be, as God is
Unto you, as to your divinity
It is an extension of the teaching
I am what I am
Which I will explain below
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a reply to:
Theuncutblock
You are also on the right path, but you seem to have the perspective key backwards
I'm not sure if that is because you are trying to explain it to someone else, or you yourself view it backwards
My apologies if you are presenting it that way for someone elses benefit
It should be
"Know self, know God". Not the other way around
There is no other possible path to knowing "God". Because self is the only thing in this world that is ever truly knowable to the individual
In the illuminated teachings, they refer to this as
the primary truth
The only thing which can ever be known for certain in this world, is that you exist
Everything else is up for debate
Personal belief, is not the same as knowing
Initiates are taught:
Without the creation to reflect and consider its source, there would be no source. Or at the very least, it would be pointless
The first seed of any consideration, knowledge, understanding, or even belief and faith, can only possible come from within the mind of "self",
through which such is able to be considered
All that could be considered under terms such as "God", needs no help from deterministic will, in being nominated, named, or defined
God, will be as God is
It does not need our help
Other than to fulfill our own purpose within the creation, and attend to the creation whilst we are here, to pay for our own price and place within
it
To live within
creation, is to give back more than you take from the world
To live in
decay, is to take more from the world than you give
Everything else is redundant
Let God be, as God is
Unto you, as to your divinity
The next answer, may also be relevant to your response
originally posted by: Merman
a reply to: Untun
I want to open my reply to you by stating what G-D is. It is very simple. HE told Moses and Moses told ...
Someone told someone, who told someone, who told someone else who wrote it down ... See the problem with presenting this as what "is"?
There is a difference between knowing something that was passed down and written, and understanding it
HIS Name is I AM in English.
No. You misunderstand the answer that was given, as being a name. It is not a name
This teaching is a riddle of sorts, which is given to those seeking to understand the mysteries
Illuminated initiates need understand the correct meaning behind this, before they undertake any teachings
If you ask someone who, or what, they are, and they answer "
I AM WHO I AM", why would you consider that to be their name?
The answer "I AM WHAT I AM", means that the question itself is irrelevant
Even if the Hebrew God were to explain exactly who, or what, they are, when asked. The person asking the question has no way of knowing such thing for
certainty
It is impossible to know for certain that what they are telling you is correct
Because the only thing which can ever be known for certain, is "I AM"
So what would be the point of ever offering anything more? If indeed, it were even possible for us to understand more, within our own realm and level
of development
Understand?
Think of it like a child asking you about advanced physics, when they barely have a working understanding of the basics in this world
The only answer you can really offer them is,
Physics, are the way things are in this world
Likewise, when they are asked "Who" or "What" they are, the only answer that could be given by the Hebrew God, which was truthful and could be
understood, was "I AM WHAT I AM"
Everything beyond that, would be divisive and confuse the considerations that are really relevant
Which are not who, or what, they are; but what they offer
If one is too concerned with who, or what, God is, then they are not ready to be taught to understand the mysteries
The only people who are accepted as illuminated initiates, are those who understand that the question is irrelevant
Believing you can know, name, or understand God, is the ultimate ego within this world
People who are concerned with such things, are offered the path of order. Things such as religion, spirituality and philosophy
Even the Freemasons are path of order. Though their degree system is based upon the process of illumination, they are not genuine illuminated. Their
understanding is backwards, based upon alignment to a determined belief/version of God and the orders of man
"Christ" that you refer to, defines the ability to reflect creation within this world. Things such as emotion and conscience
Jesus Christ is not a person. It is a state of being
Understanding, comes from experience
A person needs to crucified, in order to ascend
What it is supposed to teach you, is that all the darkness and negativity you experience within this world, is what makes all the joy and beauty seem
so sweet
In the illuminated teachings we say:
Without having tasted lemon, could you still say sugar sweet?
Baptism is fluid nature of the experience. The waters of creation. Such as time
Revelation is not a curse.
The book of Revelation when correctly translated is a book about spectrum and frequency
The Biblical 7 seals of apocalypse, are the same as the Sumerian 7 sages of Apkallu
Which are the same as the 7 notes of the octave (the 8th is a repeat of the 1st)
Which is the same as the 7 colours of the spectrum
It is no curse, it is frequencies, both positive and negative in which we exist
The "Christ" you are waiting for, is not what you think it is. It is already here. It has always been here
What has been missing for all these years, is the understanding of what it is
The teachings you have so much love for, are the latest incarnation of the same illuminated teachings that have been taught since the dawn of time
When you understand what is behind them, all the versions align, to show the same (vastly misunderstood) knowledge
Norse, Sumerian, Egyptian, Greek, Romans, Roman Catholic, Judaism and Islam
They are all the same
The descent and re-ascent of Kore (Persephone) to/from Hades, is exactly the same as the Crucifixion of Christ
Which also align with mathematical principles, and the creation of matter within a sphere (torus)
This is literally what the TORAH is about. How a torus/sphere/cell is created. El'ohim means "Equilibrium"
Which also aligns with our number system and its symbols
Which aligns with the alphabet. Which aligns with the planets
You can literally write them all out, so they intersect with each other
The sun in the sky is what you refer to as "stargate". It is the same as a neuron in the brain, receiving and firing synapses
When you look at the sun, you are looking at your own conscious mind
When you look at the moon, you are looking down into your internal body, at the tip of your spine
Jesus Christ is not the gateway. You are
We are all Christ. We just need to learn to understand our ability to reflect the source of creation, within the cycles we exist within
Hope this helps