Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

Originally posted by sleeper

The ETs in charge of this planet have a mandate, and they are carrying it out

What is this mandate?

By all means, spill your guts. Tell us on this board every fact and detail you know, no matter how miniscule.

Just like the Ghostbusters, We're ready to believe you!

Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

Are extraterrestrials real? As real as the nose on your face.

When Michael Jackson read this, he assumed extraterrestrials where not real.

I saw Michael Jackson on MIB, his nose has nothing to do with anything, his face is melting. He really is a closet extraterrestrial.

So Sleeper......

do you believe that when capitalism finally collapses, and a peoples socialist society begins to rise from the chaos.... when resources are finally shared, when class structures and poverty are understood as VIOLENCE....

then will the aliens show?

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Frith
While there is little here to give your story veracity, can you go into any more detail on what you personally have seen and know about ETs and their vehicles? Also, how could anything be "imaginary" inside a UFO? Wouldn't everything inside be real? Why would ETs put fakery in their own vehicles? To amuse themselves?

[edit on 10-4-2005 by Frith]

Perhaps everything is real, but while inside the ship the atmosphere is like a drug induced experience and difficult to differentiate between reality and imaginary. The minute you step out of the craft the mind goes back to normal.

Perhaps the surreal effect is caused by the massive emfs produced by these crafts

Originally posted by nullster
People have no faith or trust in mankind so they pin all their hopes on altrustic creature or beings to fix all that ails us. It doesn't matter that there is not one shred of evidence beyond anecdotal stories to support an almost zealous beliefs. By pegging the hopes on aliens for righting wrongs and fixing problems this looks more like an excused resignation to accept that nothing really can be done. So it will be their (Aliens) fault for allowing it to happen.

Aliens are not a religion or a faith. People should learn to stop treating them as if they are.

Nevertheless without extraterrestrials humans are nothing. The difference between humans and ET is that ET needs not to have recognition----they do everything while keeping themselves hidden in the background.

Why then don't they fix all the problems?----answer---they have fixed many problems millions of them---look at human history---look at today----big difference.

How long does it take us to fix our personal problems? The world is a big and complex place and problems are being fixed at the appropriate pace.

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by pantha
As others have said, I think we are missing some detail here. When you relay an experience to people, there is usually a beginning a middle and an end to the tale. I think this is what is making this so hard for people to take in.
It might be a good idea to start again from the very beginning and tell us exactly what you experienced start to finish.

[edit on 10-4-2005 by pantha]

I'm sure you would agree that this is not a run of the mill tale; It's to say the least very complex phenomena. There is a reason people like me don't tell their stories, much cannot be told, and what is told has to be done delicately.

Sleeper is telling the truth...I can tell. Dont ask me how, I just know.
Thanks Sleeper for coming forward and sharing your experience.

Originally posted by lensphlere


So Sleeper......

do you believe that when capitalism finally collapses, and a peoples socialist society begins to rise from the chaos.... when resources are finally shared, when class structures and poverty are understood as VIOLENCE....

then will the aliens show?

Capitalism is not going to collapse; resources are created as they are needed by industrialized and free countries.

ET doesn’t need to show themselves openly, they haven't for thousands of years.

However, they have contact with thousands of people every day----those people don't talk about it.

Originally posted by magnito_student

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Frith
While there is little here to give your story veracity, can you go into any more detail on what you personally have seen and know about ETs and their vehicles? Also, how could anything be "imaginary" inside a UFO? Wouldn't everything inside be real? Why would ETs put fakery in their own vehicles? To amuse themselves?

[edit on 10-4-2005 by Frith]

Perhaps everything is real, but while inside the ship the atmosphere is like a drug induced experience and difficult to differentiate between reality and imaginary. The minute you step out of the craft the mind goes back to normal.

Perhaps the surreal effect is caused by the massive emfs produced by these crafts

Emf is very strong but there are other factors, the human senses are much more keen and we humans are not use to keen senses, which creates confusion as the brain is bombarded with new information.

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by magnito_student

Originally posted by sleeper

Originally posted by Frith
While there is little here to give your story veracity, can you go into any more detail on what you personally have seen and know about ETs and their vehicles? Also, how could anything be "imaginary" inside a UFO? Wouldn't everything inside be real? Why would ETs put fakery in their own vehicles? To amuse themselves?

[edit on 10-4-2005 by Frith]

Perhaps everything is real, but while inside the ship the atmosphere is like a drug induced experience and difficult to differentiate between reality and imaginary. The minute you step out of the craft the mind goes back to normal.

Perhaps the surreal effect is caused by the massive emfs produced by these crafts

Emf is very strong but there are other factors, the human senses are much more keen and we humans are not use to keen senses, which creates confusion as the brain is bombarded with new information.

Makes sense. We are use to operating only at certain limited levels and anything like that introduced im sure sets off all kinds of visual and auditory experiences. Perhaps the pharm companies are trying to rewire the human to where they can operate more on their(aliens) level. More so than not rewiring the chemistry.

As far as them taking over....whos to say they havent been in control all along.

Originally posted by BRCMontana

Originally posted by sleeper

The ETs in charge of this planet have a mandate, and they are carrying it out

What is this mandate?

By all means, spill your guts. Tell us on this board every fact and detail you know, no matter how miniscule.

Just like the Ghostbusters, We're ready to believe you!

The mandate involves each sovereign country and each country has their own unique challenges and requirements, the mandate can also involved individuals and their problems or inner needs----but they only facilitate people that know what they need to make the next step----there are six or so billion people on this planet---ET is busy

Originally posted by magnito_student


Makes sense. We are use to operating only at certain limited levels and anything like that introduced im sure sets off all kinds of visual and auditory experiences. Perhaps the pharm companies are trying to rewire the human to where they can operate more on their(aliens) level. More so than not rewiring the chemistry.

As far as them taking over....whos to say they havent been in control all along.

The pharmaceuticals are like every other industry, they make good stuff and bad stuff but in the long run humans move forward----ever so slowly, except for the last 100 years where we had a spurt.

No one wants to admit that ET has been in control, not even those that know ET is real and been around for sometime.

life elsewhere is probable - i say this purly on the maths, so many galaxys, so many suns.. some must have the right chemistry. But thats not to say its anything like people expect alien life to resemble.

Can you support your claims with some evidence?? a photo, a video?

Originally posted by Im a true sceptic
life elsewhere is probable - i say this purly on the maths, so many galaxys, so many suns.. some must have the right chemistry. But thats not to say its anything like people expect alien life to resemble.

Can you support your claims with some evidence?? a photo, a video?

It is forbidden to show evidence----not a copout, its just the way it is, but I do have a stone, it’s a meteorite that was given to me many years ago when I was younger. I even tried to break it open to see what was inside it when I had one to many drinks, again many years ago.

Obviously the stone is not proof of anything, meteorites are everywhere but they never told me if it’s from this planet or some other planet or moon---or other star system.

I'm sure I will get lots of flack for posting that I have a meteorite from an extraterrestrial but ET would not let me video tape or take pictures of their ship

So bring on the laughs and snickers

sleeper, indeed your thread really answers alot of my questions.
But I would really like to know the answer to the ulitmate question.
What are we and why are we here, what purpose does it serves for the aliens to aid us during our changes?

Originally posted by damefool
sleeper, indeed your thread really answers alot of my questions.
But I would really like to know the answer to the ulitmate question.
What are we and why are we here, what purpose does it serves for the aliens to aid us during our changes?

It’s best that most don't remember who they are and why they are here, for one that information would detract and add nothing to this experience.

Without the aid of ET there would be no escape from this planet, no moving forward, no advancement in technology and no hope for mankind, earth would be a dead zone.

Humans helping humans is like the blind leading the blind, yet few people understand that or are aware of that reality.

The vast majority need not know any different that's the way ET wants it

Originally posted by magnito_student
Sleeper is telling the truth...I can tell. Dont ask me how, I just know.
Thanks Sleeper for coming forward and sharing your experience.

Nice deductive reasoning, dude. Denying ignorance for sure. I can't beleive I read this whole thread.

Sleeper, if you're for real, please give us something tangible to go on. Even if 10% of this sh** is true, you're talking about changing people's entire world.

[edit on 1/7/2006 by chiS2000]

SLEEPER,

I am curious if the plant, Salvia Divinorum, helps the human mind connect with aliens and allows contact on many levels?

From my research, the herb, Salvia Divinorum, seems to bring the human soul or spirit or mind to a level that allows them to travel throughout the multidimensional realities of the universe instantly to experience many things. One of the many things that people state during Salvia Divinorum "trips" is the essence of visiting alien worlds and meeting alien beings.

I am curious what your thoughts on this are? Also, has anyone had similar experiences with Salvia Divinorum?

Originally posted by SirDomino
SLEEPER,

I am curious if the plant, Salvia Divinorum, helps the human mind connect with aliens and allows contact on many levels?

From my research, the herb, Salvia Divinorum, seems to bring the human soul or spirit or mind to a level that allows them to travel throughout the multidimensional realities of the universe instantly to experience many things. One of the many things that people state during Salvia Divinorum "trips" is the essence of visiting alien worlds and meeting alien beings.

I am curious what your thoughts on this are? Also, has anyone had similar experiences with Salvia Divinorum?

This is the first time I have heard of Salvia Divirorum it sounds like '___'----never tried that either.

If you are asking if I take drugs----I do----an aspirin once in a while, and I have a glass of wine with my meals---one glass.

Originally posted by chiS2000


Sleeper, if you're for real, please give us something tangible to go on. Even if 10% of this sh** is true, you're talking about changing people's entire world.

[edit on 1/7/2006 by chiS2000]

100% is true, but there is no chance that the apple cart is going to get over turned any time soon.

Most people are locked into their illusions----however----ever so slowly, ET unlocks the minds of thousands of people, and these people suddenly notice that there are billions of stars in the night sky, and their curiosity begins to unfold.

How many people do you know----need or want their view of the world to come to an end?

No one is going to be dragged "kicking and screaming" into another reality---into the truth of what life really is about.

Proof would shatter the illusions of this world for all----but all are not ready for the next big step.

Having had smoked the SD, I would say no... it just mildly hallucinogen and lasts only a short period of time.

I felt that the only things that were affected by it were colours and physical sensation was a little "trippy" (was stood up but felt like I was lying on my back if thaat makes any sense) and I felt very hot on the inside of my body and cold on the outside of my skin.

I was able to still talk to my buddies and had no sensation of heightened spiritual sensation and definitely no multi-dimensional travel.

Salvia may make the person believe this if they were so inclined in the same way any other hallucinogen may do. If you really beleive that taking an hallucinogen will give you the ability to think you can see/do/experience things then you mind will be tricked into experiencing things that have not actually happened.

Thats why people may use hallucinogens.