Do you remember before you were born?

a reply to: Peeple

LOL! The plan...is to learn to speak MYOB!

a reply to: Waterglass

I don't have a fear of death. I have a fascination with it. An almost familiar feeling that helps me know my short existence here in the material plane won't be painful to leave. Wether we are reborn into the same life, or reborn entirely new, I do not know. I do not remember that far back...to my pre-existence. All I know is I won't remember when it all ends, and for that I am grateful.

a reply to: QwertyMyself

No matter the life; There is eating and the removal of waste; Be it womb born, egg born, moisture born or spontaneously born(thought form).

Re-living all of those countless amount of lives in recall is tedious as when it is achieved... One has already lived their current life no more than seven times. All the live's before that are better reduced to the eating and removal of waste and continue onto the practice/goal one had before their recall.

A light of knowing arises before then that people call enlightenment which just means knowing that does not require any thought... Thoughts are often empty and baseless to the moment in which they are occurring leaving no solid ground of reality there... Meaning thought forms(spontaneous) as a birth is unreliable and more of a purgatory. An example is consciousness following someone attached to them via some reason and the person going on and on about how lovely France is and the consciousness then abandons the person in mutual attachment thinking it's France and it's just down at their local coffee shop instead...

So the person born of that thought is then in a purgatory sort of limbo with only their perceived notions of France from the person or their own unless having been there already. How so? The dead do not know they are dead and attached via thoughts of those that are attached to them and how would the dead know who is going to be attached to them or if their last will and testament of their corpse or personal items are going to be handled how they wanted them handled?

Such a thing is very common place and it could be said the disease on both accounts if not more? Is the clinging to the dead while living and the dead clinging to life not really knowing they are dead; As consciousness is consciousness people not necessarily having consciously clung but are clung too are done so out of habits and cravings of the other consciousness. Clinging to the dead's objects are often seen as greedy and sometimes becomes cause for hate to arise... Especially when that person knows they have their own of whatever that is and if not then why want it or why can't they work for one themselves like the person that has it did?

It just means that food and waste is different depending on the sort or type of birth... However; A consciousness clinging is a choice to whatever or whomever it is.

Not clinging to any senses seen as a self in those lives and one's that may yet to come is the biggest key to letting go and being fulfilled... Why it's such a hurdle is a thing called regret or remorse but those are typically the arising of anxiety and fear displaced onto someone else they perceived as stronger.

Such as clinging to one's parents and relatives as an adult whether alive or dead. It is akin to dragging a corpse around as a shield against life instead of actually living.

I honestly hate the people attached to their individual perceived notions of what a me is; Whether self or other derived... no matter the so called familial relationship; I don't care what their reasons or motives are; As that over time has bred nothing but contempt for nearly everyone and not just them. It's like a hermit that loves being alone; Constantly getting called on and visited; Instead of being left to do what they need to do.

I wouldn't make too much out of past lives as the one's that think they have one are the most annoying when trying to include others in it... aka delusions of oneness.

a reply to: Crowfoot

Thank you for this.

I didn't have incarnate lives in mind when posting this.

I was thinking of the place we dwell in-between lives, and also the place we came from before Life as we know it existed.

a reply to: QwertyMyself

Oh well as far as most religious traditions state that say you can't lie and must be honest?

No time at all

3 days expected 7 days max

No time up to 39 days

...and that's said for even those of not their religion being a taboo to look into it.

I see death as a silly concept... After all everyone; Is just a heap of elements... Whether that heap is animated(alive) or dead(not animated) makes no difference other than heat present or not present of elemental cells interacting from within.

I have seen animated cats and dogs kept alive by larvae driving it around like a Trojan horse... Looks like a cat looks like a dog but nope a corpse infested with worms. Countries that have Chanel grounds where all corpses go to be burned have many stories of the re-animated by various parasites etc. Europeans got a big dose of that themselves that still haunts to this day from the black plague/death in the form of vampires, ghouls, zombies and other Frankenesque sorts... anytime there have been too many corpses to take care of at once such a thing has arisen and it's not often talked about... as some of them have the ability to fully recover if the infestation has not gone too far. I have even heard of sheep being infested and people not know it until it sneezes and is entire face flies off head full of worms rotting on it's feet.

If you read my signature... I don't keep time as a real existing concept(unfortunately, others do and I simply live with that). Everything experienced is just a previous cause and one deals with it as if they are the effects child... continually dependent on whatever it is that arises and call that a life or existence. Being the cause of whatever it is means no escape so why all the running around to make more instead of sit and let all the previous effects pass until one sees all of their past lives? I don't know... Some do but such as that is a perceived rarity.

Morals etc do not mean a future in heaven just a future with less personal troubles or being hindered due to them... Of course; That does does not mean there is any end of those lacking morals that will keep arising looking for a cohort that has more of such a fiber than they do.

Dispassion with all of that; Means there isn't really any way to be tempted... No more than an alcoholic says that water is so tempting me to have it instead.

Of course; i grew up with a bunch of junkies, winos, pimps and whores; That found religion and I honestly... can't tell the difference; Other than before then It was unorganized?

a reply to: QwertyMyself

Some trace memories. I've been fascinated with India and stories about the Black Pit Of Calcutta freak me out. Maybe I was a british colonial in the Raj. Sinking ship stories make me very uneasy. Likewise being falsely imprisoned. The idea of foreign invaders taking cherished land and dominating native peoples also never sat well with me. I think I've been around on both sides of many conflicts.
I tried past life regression self hypnosis a few times. I did get some visions of being an angel of lower rank being admonished for not taking sides and not caring about humanity and its destiny. I carried a spear as I recall and maybe I was sentenced to mortality to await final reclamation.

originally posted by: Darkblade71
a reply to: QwertyMyself

I do remember before I was born.
Thanks for this very interesting question.

I remember being shown a spiral of what I can only assume was planets. Everything had a weird green/gold glow like an old hologram. I don't know who was showing me, but it was like I was in between worlds....

I recently came across this research that describes 'swirling spirals' and 'vortices' that may be the key to our cognition. I'm wondering if what you remember was the spiral of your own cognition.
www.livescience.com...

a reply to: checkers101

The holographic universe people are literally blind against the lenticular... They may have technology to detect it but can't see it so in their reality it is more like a force or non existent reality that not having those senses are ignorant of.

Ex. If you draw a cube many people can't see it as three dimensional it just appears as squares. The people that can see in three dimensions can see it as the squares and cube. If you want to move our vision more towards the fourth dimension with seeing? Foreground back ground the cube moving the corner towards you and away from you. To create a spin after that find the right turn or left turn ballerina gif and use your will to make it turn right or left and also practice stopping it.

People have eyes but many use them as an animal in discrimination of threat not threat; Or in hand eye co-ordination of a task... leaving vision there as a species only limits the difference between real and imagined. For example those that only see squares are cognitively biased to see the cube those that can see the cube and not knowing are cognitively biased from seeing far corner near corner as making the cube move or rotate front to back as the speed that the eye can perceive light which is a constant even when they are closed.

The above is how evolution can be stunted or shown to still occur as adaptation adversity... moving beyond animals means people after birth are stuck adapting to diversity and then going right back into animals in perceiving threat or training hand eye co-ordination to counter any perceived threat. All that does is bottleneck the evolution of the species we have named ourselves as: Human. In doing that life is no different than a dog chasing it's tail then forgetting it has one, then recalling it has a tail then chasing it again.

Maybe inappropriate but 50 years ago I had a dream where I looked like a mid 20's Italian man and was performing cunnilingus on a woman. She climaxed and I woke having my first organism and holding my tongue - as it felt like it had been in a vice. I was 8 years old and didn't know what equipment women were running.
20 years later I had a dream with just him, clicking two dice between thumb and forefinger. I did go to the casino the next night and played craps - throwing for 5 hours without loss. Before the final throw I had an electric shock go through my body and took down what bets I could, and then threw - 7'd out. None of this was planned - it just happened to me.
Was a bit weird after that, while cashing up the dealer shortchanged me $500 - so I demanded that they review the camera footage. A supervising women came down gave me my $500 and shouted out that I was banned - to nervous laughter. I did return the next two weekends, no wins. After that the pressure got to them and they closed down the craps table. They silenced the calls that used to be part of the music of the casino. Sorry. It's been over 20years now and we still can't play craps anywhere in the country.

a reply to: checkers101

Interesting article.

Thanks for the read. I have no idea if that is what it was, but am open to the idea.

What a great topic for some light esoteric ATS vibes
I do remember being born, the first few moments being held by my parents and possibly a day or so later being carried to the car- it was the early 80s I went in the front seat in my mothers arms.
I know there was a real sense of recognition- yes, here we are together- as agreed and the atmosphere was Big Love almost thick with it, like an atmosphere of its own.
In the months and years up to around 3-4 lots of dreams of a place and being that was not this world, infinite and microcosmic at the same time
No body to speak of? but definitely a spark of individual self and others like me - who had great love and encouragement towards me and promises of seeing soon or in embodiment.
A few things, that even tho now I am somewhat cynical, somewhat lost spiritually, at this time not interested in faith and so on - in my heart of hearts I just KNOW there is another place or existence beyond this plane.
So yeh
Interesting to speculate
~wag~

a reply to: Peter Brake

Hold your tongue and repeat this sentence while holding your tongue:

My daddy works at the ship-yard and kick ashes.

originally posted by: Forkit
My very first memory is being led down stairs with an entity at each arm. I had wings and was being led to a pool which we walked into. I was dunked into the water; a reverse baptism, and my wings fell off. I was then dunked under water and I was pulled in by a drain and soul sucked into a body on earth. Then I was born and started this life.

Interesting I wrote almost that exact same to the letter over 8 years ago here on ATS

a reply to: QwertyMyself
I am about 45 years old and I have always remembered that I am in a some kind of choice situation where a map of the world is shown and we go through different options (parents). I also remember moving to different people with the power of thought? ( Like in heaven ? )

a reply to: QwertyMyself

Do you remember before you were born?

Have you tried?


Yes. I used this:





Listening to this with headphones on worked extremely well. Excellent results

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