Drags, Kids & Gender Themes

originally posted by: Turquosie
It's partially because drag queens are an easy target to say "Look, that's the bad guy causing all the problems". Usually what people do when the reall issues are complex and hard to deal with.

We've had countless stories of minor abuse by church officials but there isn't much talk about that anymore. Religion is complex and hard to go after. Drag queens are an easy target. So, lets talk about them and blame the world's ills on .05% or less of the population.

Like how that navy seal is criticizing the military for allowing a transexual representative in the navy. The military has a ton of issues that has hurt a lot of people. But those issues are very complex and varied. What's not complex and an easy target -> transsexuals.

It's silly and a classic example of people needing a boogeyman when they don't know how to identify complex problems and solutions.

Naw.
This one is REEEAAALLL easy, you really are reading way to much into it.
Grown people can do whatever they want.
Leave kids OUT OF IT.
See?
Easy peezy.

originally posted by: Turquosie

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Turquosie

"But they do it too!"


Not a very good argument..

I'm not for trans kid surgery or hormonal treatment for minors. But this is a very minor issue. Transsexuals aren't the majority of pedophile cases. Yet, thats the only thing people want to talk about.

The arguement isn't "they do it too", but rather why are we so focusd on transsexuals right now? There are much bigger issues happening but all we can seem to talk about is a tiny fraction of the population.

Regardless, teaching this to children is child abuse.

a reply to: Turquosie

I'm not for trans kid surgery or hormonal treatment for minors. But this is a very minor issue. Transsexuals aren't the majority of pedophile cases. Yet, thats the only thing people want to talk about.

Currently, yes. Now why is that? Could it possibly be the recent targeting of children? Methinks so. Where previously, many folks just let people be who they want, all the dirt comes out since that line has been crossed.

The arguement isn't "they do it too", but rather why are we so focusd on transsexuals right now? There are much bigger issues happening but all we can seem to talk about is a tiny fraction of the population.

Because a line has been crossed and the regime in charge, hollywood, atheletes, academia etc are in firm support of crossing that line.

a reply to: Turquosie

I really wish it were this simplistic. But it's not. Lots of people abuse children and no one gets a free pass. Including religious leaders and people who identify as transgender.

I've already listed several examples and a website that tracks these crimes by transgender people.

Again and again it comes down to basic long-established safeguards that trans activists demand we abolish ‐ or just exempt them.

As long as they refuse to accept and respect basic safeguards and boundaries for other's protection, they are telling us they cannot be trusted.

a reply to: malte85

So because of this tangent being presented, people are supposed to support the current loon efforts to re-educate children and allow porn to be taught by highly educated teachers in grade school classrooms ???

Let's hear from some expert doctors too while we're at it.

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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Turquosie

I really wish it were this simplistic. But it's not. Lots of people abuse children and no one gets a free pass. Including religious leaders and people who identify as transgender.

I've already listed several examples and a website that tracks these crimes by transgender people.

Again and again it comes down to basic long-established safeguards that trans activists demand we abolish ‐ or just exempt them.

As long as they refuse to accept and respect basic safeguards and boundaries for other's protection, they are telling us they cannot be trusted.

I do not blame the trans community.
I blame the Woke leftists who want to react, the Social Justice Warriors who act before and without thinking.
Most trans people just want to live their lives and be left alone.
That is not good enough for the non trans leftists that only want to virtue signal and sate their own selfish feelings of control.
Take this for example:
Colorado Dems vote against harsher penalties for indecent exposure to kids because it could 'ban drag shows'
ourcommunitynow.com...

What the hell us wrong with people?

a reply to: Quadrivium

I do not blame the trans community.

Nor do I. This is why I use "Trans Activists" to separate the political agenda and activism from folks just going about their lives -- not imposing on or demanding anything from anyone.

I blame the Woke leftists who want to react, the Social Justice Warriors who act before and without thinking.

And these would be those Trans Activists.

Take this for example:
Colorado Dems vote against harsher penalties for indecent exposure to kids because it could 'ban drag shows'
ourcommunitynow.com...

What the hell us wrong with people?

And it's because of this refusal to respect basic safeguards for children that they are telling us we can't trust them.

a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah, Trans Activist does sound better.
I just honestly, for the life of me, do not understand how some people can't see this as child abuse.
They are putting undue stress and confusion on children.
Sick, selfish and absurd.

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: Boadicea

Yeah, Trans Activist does sound better.

It's an important distinction. I've seen "TRA" for "Trans rights activist" used quite a bit on some sites. But I doubt most here would even know what it is, and ATS frowns on acronyms anyway. So I figured "Trans activist" works.

I just honestly, for the life of me, do not understand how some people can't see this as child abuse.

Neither do I. It's impossible not to see. And even if they couldn't see it for themselves, they've been told in no uncertain terms!

Rightly or wrongly, I don't even pretend they don't know. They know. But for whatever reason, they refuse to respect safeguards and boundaries. The reason is less important than knowing it's the same end result.

a reply to: JinMI

Funny it was here all along but you didn't see that. You think the problems we face are not due to a society that was visibly sick for at least the last 3 generations, the cancer is growing since 2000 years.

It's like blaming the symptoms, and ignoring the sickness.
makes the solutions proposed laughable...

But hey, we all kmow where the bodies are buried, and for a society to reach the point we reached alot of bodies had to buried by those in charge...
Who is and was in charge of the basics we base our morals on... It's too late for team bible, they missed an important step when critics got loud about some harmful things they do to kids and decided to hold on to.

that's where you lost all ground in being heard...

Sometimes those that don't want to listen have to feel it... I'm sure most feel it by now, but they haven't understood the problem as they're still pointing fingers.

the only way this ideology will make it into the next Era is by honest self reflection and adressing the issues that have ridden their establishment to mere hypocrisy. Everything else is just taking away from their credibility.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: Turquosie

I really wish it were this simplistic. But it's not. Lots of people abuse children and no one gets a free pass. Including religious leaders and people who identify as transgender.

I've already listed several examples and a website that tracks these crimes by transgender people.

Again and again it comes down to basic long-established safeguards that trans activists demand we abolish ‐ or just exempt them.

As long as they refuse to accept and respect basic safeguards and boundaries for other's protection, they are telling us they cannot be trusted.

Well said, calling it out wherever we see it, and no matter who is doing it is the right thing.

This is the focus right now because they've set eyes on the children, that's a line that gets people up in arms and pushes the issue to the forefront, which is what we're seeing now.

a reply to: LizzidPepo

Well said, calling it out wherever we see it, and no matter who is doing it is the right thing.

Exactly! "Johnny did it first" doesn't give anyone a free pass. Anyone and everyone who abuses children are subject to the consequences of their bad behavior.

This is the focus right now because they've set eyes on the children, that's a line that gets people up in arms and pushes the issue to the forefront, which is what we're seeing now.

Yes. The vast majority of people understand the need to protect and safeguard our children. It's instinct for the strong and able to protect the weak and vulnerable from predators.

ETA: I hit reply too soon - sorry!

It's the lack of concern for children that raises huge red flags. The refusal to respect safeguards and boundaries that protect children. The denial that there is even a risk to children. It's inhumane and everyone knows it (whether they admit it or not).

originally posted by: Turquosie
It's partially because drag queens are an easy target to say "Look, that's the bad guy causing all the problems". Usually what people do when the reall issues are complex and hard to deal with.

No, not bad. Mentally ill, and I don't care how many times you try to tell me that being confused about what you are is normal. It's not, it's far - very far - from normal.