U.S. to send nuclear submarines to dock in South Korea for first time since 1980s

Hmmm, we will see how effective this is.

If Kim Jung Un is fueling up his test missiles though MIM might need to duck more than occasionally.

What happened to walking softly and carrying a big stick?

It's not like North Korea doesn't know the US has the big stick, not to mention I rather have them silently lurking in the region than sitting at some dock with a target on thier backs.

That said considering Xi is in talks with Zelensky, can't be a peace negotiator in one theater and ready for war in another. Perhaps he finally has Kim Jung Un on a very short lease.

Not saying Xi isn't on a fishing expedition or is trustworthy, it all might be just so Russia can reposition and resupply

U.S. to send nuclear submarines to dock in South Korea for the first time since the 1980s

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Presidents Joe Biden and Yoon Suk Yeol on Wednesday will sign an agreement that includes plans to have U.S. nuclear-armed submarines dock in South Korea for the first time in more than 40 years, a conspicuous show of support to Seoul amid growing concern about nuclear threats by North Korea, according to senior Biden administration officials.

The planned dock visits are a key element of what's being dubbed the "Washington Declaration," aimed at deterring North Korea from carrying out an attack on its neighbor. It is being unveiled as Mr. Biden is hosting Yoon for a state visit during a moment of heightened anxiety for both leaders over an increased pace of ballistic missile tests by North Korea over the last several months.

In return for the submarines, three senior White House officials said South Korea will reaffirm its commitment to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, known as the NPT, which bars countries from developing their own nuclear weapons.

The three senior Biden administration officials, who briefed reporters on the condition of anonymity ahead of the official announcement, said that aides to Mr. Biden and Yoon have been working on details of the plan for months and agreed that "occasional" and "very clear demonstrations of the strength" of U.S. extended deterrence capabilities needed to be an essential aspect of the agreement.

a reply to: putnam6

I love how carefully they word things. The USS Michigan docked in Busan, South Korea in 2017, but it's technically not a nuclear armed submarine because it was converted to an SSGN, to carry 154 Tomahawk missiles from an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine. So it's technically true that a nuclear sub hasn't docked there in 40 years.

a reply to: putnam6

What an odd thing to tell everyone on planet Earth where the nukes are Lol

#BendSpoons

Would be cool if a sub shot down the next North Korean Launch 😁

a reply to: xuenchen

A sub can't. They don't have the capability to launch an interceptor, or the sensors to detect a launch. The only way they could would be to be up shallow enough to have their ESM mast up to datalink to other sensors, and that makes then incredibly vulnerable.

originally posted by: BeNotAfraid
a reply to: putnam6

What an odd thing to tell everyone on planet Earth where the nukes are Lol

Only when it's docked. The message is, "Hey, just in case you forgot, we've got a load of subs floating around in the area ready for instant reaction." Of course, they know that already. This is just an overt reminder.

ok ive seen this to many times now. Off topic but what does MIM stand for?a reply to: putnam6

originally posted by: AnrkE
ok ive seen this to many times now. Off topic but what does MIM stand for?a reply to: putnam6

They are much esteemed and revered fellow ATSer "musicismagic" does popular MIM's Street Talk, and participates a lot. They reside in Japan. Thus if the subs provoke Kim, MIM lets us know.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: putnam6

I love how carefully they word things. The USS Michigan docked in Busan, South Korea in 2017, but it's technically not a nuclear armed submarine because it was converted to an SSGN, to carry 154 Tomahawk missiles from an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine. So it's technically true that a nuclear sub hasn't docked there in 40 years.

So you are of the opinion, this is just our Intelligence and Navy doing this to Kim...



which I agree BTW he needs to quit lobbing missiles over Japan.

a reply to: putnam6

More or less. They're tightening the screws, and one way to do that is to point out that a nuclear armed sub hasn't been there in 40 years, which is technically true.