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posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 05:17 PM
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so i thought id give my opinions on some controversial ufo topics such as debunking, for example in my opinion these things habe not been debunked bob lazar, larry warren, isreal, turkey, varghina, rendelsham, pyramids, swarms, chile, mexico eclipse, etc., now people have tried to debunk these people and cases but they just couldnt do it, either its their bad judgement, lack of knowledge or wisdom, lack of access to classified info, etc., lets face it its just hard to know what happened if you werent there and its really hard to imagine it from your computer desk or couch

one thing ive learned about govt is that they dont care if youre not perfect or have a college degree, now it will help but they look for problem solvers and trustworthy people with good judgement systems, people who have active passions for instance theres no ufo propulsion school, and every phsics professors read from the same books, the govts like find us someone different, find us people that might know something professors dont know

my point is we dont know the whole truth, we dont know what people saw or not and thats our job if you will as individual researchers to figure out for ourselves whats true and whats not, study these people and cases yourself and then make your own decision, but if you just go by one side or the other without study then your a fool and you problaby already know that

speaking of disingenuous ive heard people say that the flir, go fast, and gimbal, videos released by the govt show none of the 5 observables? so i decided to look at them again and in my opinion there are some of the observables, for instance no visable wings, instant acceleration, and low visability, but i guess those can be argued as to what we see as individuals, also if you notice they released 3 totally different ufos i mean uaps sorry

i noticed alot of people like the paranormal,but im not sure the nhis are responsible for that, im an experiencer myself nothing amazing but no doubt those thing were there, i might talk about it down the road but i will say theres been some ghostly images of people that arent reaally there buy no communication or messages or threats or nor was i fearful, i was thinking maybe theyre souls that stuck around who really knows, but to me the goal is the crash retrievels and bodies that represent absolute truth and why are they keeping that from the public here in the 21st century is uncalled for imo, i get it that in the 1940s they might not have been ready for such a revelation but i think now they are and if theyre not its just too bad because the nhis areny going anywhere

so can anyone answer why no one has solved the ufo subject? i know they tried to say balloons, drones, and just mistaken observations but do you really think that thats all there is to this? please comment below



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 05:41 PM
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Well, turkey, Chile and bob lazar have been debunked. But if you wanna believe that’s ok too.

With the gimble, go fast and other “Nimitz tictac” type videos. You guys keeps saying it has no wings! It accelerates fast! Must be alien! We can’t build a craft like that! …ever consider it’s not a craft?
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posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: saskwatch
so can anyone answer why no one has solved the ufo subject?


Perhaps because "subjects" are not something that can be solved but instead, studied. There is no end to the study.



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
You guys keeps saying it has no wings! It accelerates fast! Must be alien! We can’t build a craft like that! …ever consider it’s not a craft?


Please do not use such broad brushes with all memebers here, friend.

I agree with you about considering some of these things are not "craft", as in a physical object. Especially Tic-Tac sightings.

Projections into our space perhaps using control mechanisms familiar to another spacetime?

"Bubbles" containing simple probing systems that are transported across vast distances using light, to be activated in a form that can move in our atmosphere under rules independant to the space, to dissappear or move or act under an automated system or a pre programmed system, an A.I. or even a green blob sat in a mud puddle on mars with antennae for ears.

And maybe humans have never been recognised as anything more than animals who act in completely parasitic and illogical ways but sometimes do some crazy fun things worth watching.

For example, with all the FICTION in the world in almost endless forms created as manifestations of the human mind, coupled with the permenant dualistic nature of our bipolar machanisms, how and why the hell would an alien understand or even want to understand OUR concept of REALITY.

We are food, resource, energy, entertainment or irrelevant. But I doubt we would be taken seriously by visitors.

We are also at a point in civilization where our evidence to base that reality on has made a fundemental change. A.I. can help us create images, whether moving or still, that are all but impossible to seperate from an actual truth through our eyes.

Welcome to the simulation.

Cheat Codes ready...



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 06:47 PM
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I'm not trying to be overly argumentative, but your contention that no one has "solved the UFO subject" needs some clarification.

Because of the nature of the phenomena there is still no clear way to reduce it to a single phenomenon. I mean we are talking about reports (usually with some form of evidentiary weight) about things that are literally collected into a group because they are "unidentified."

There may be several, or even numerous explanations, each applying to only a subset of the reports. To solve them all in one theory means we are automatically accepting that they are all alike. They might not be.

Aliens, secret technologies, incomprehensible natural phenomenon, and even transcendental or metaphysical elements are still to be fully articulated and hashed out.

We suffer from programmed need to render some topics in a reductive way. That is not the end-all-be-all way to approach a mystery like this, in my opinion...

For example, I would offer a hypothesis that not all of the reports are matters of 'aliens.' Notice I did not say, none of them are aliens, because I really don't want to put all my eggs in one basket... not if I care about the truth. Not all of them are military tech, and so on, and so on.

I remember long ago cautioning those I spoke with in the subject that we have come to the end of "pics or it didn't happen" trope. Now, you can make an image of anything at all in such a way as that it cannot be determined to be a fabrication. The DoD videos we a pathetic choice for the exposition of truth, for just that reason.

There is something in this phenomena that you cannot dismiss - too many people are affected by sightings which defy explanation - and they have the weight of history on their side.

As to solving the mystery as if it were a single puzzle would be a difficult proposition... but then, who knows, after all?



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: nerbot

Well you are right I should not have painted such a broad brush. The comment was directed to those who insist the object must be a ufo craft. It could be alien. It might not be. Maybe it’s not a craft or machine. But to insist it must be because it doesn’t fit with their understanding of things is an illogical fallacy.

As for life cheat codes. If you got a few PM them to me. Mostly interested in the ones that give you money. And ones that attract women who want healthy relationships.

Also if there’s one that makes me less ugly. I want that cheat code too.

Other than that your post has sone great food for fir thought.



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: nerbot

Well you are right I should not have painted such a broad brush. The comment was directed to those who insist the object must be a ufo craft. It could be alien. It might not be. Maybe it’s not a craft or machine. But to insist it must be because it doesn’t fit with their understanding of things is an illogical fallacy.

As for life cheat codes. If you got a few PM them to me. Mostly interested in the ones that give you money. And ones that attract women who want healthy relationships.

Also if there’s one that makes me less ugly. I want that cheat code too.

Other than that your post has sone great food for fir thought.



posted on Apr, 2 2023 @ 09:30 PM
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originally posted by: BASSPLYR
As for life cheat codes. If you got a few PM them to me.
Mostly interested in the ones that give you money.
And ones that attract women who want healthy relationships.
Also if there’s one that makes me less ugly. I want that cheat code too.


If you resist using cheat 1, maybe you won't need to use cheat 2 to feel it's reward in cheat 3.

Then you still have 3 cheat slots available and could be doing well so far with just some gameplay tips.....

Keep going.

Cheats are endless.


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