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Death is not the end

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posted on Mar, 29 2023 @ 09:58 PM
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I know we do not have the current understanding to explain life or consciousness yet. However if we look at science there it is not possible to destroy anything in this universe. All that can be done is we can transfer energy or change state. Why would life be any different. We are all just made up of the same stuff. My best guess is we are all part of the same thing, so when we are cruel to each other we are only cruel to ourselves. And im sorry those that follow organised religion, but they all prove themselves wrong in their own writings now we as a race have discovered science.



posted on Mar, 29 2023 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: LeeMich83

Well yeah, the matter that makes up my body will indeed be recycled.

But is there anything else there? Or just nerves and receptors in the physical brain passing around signals.

When I think about this, I always wonder if the proto-humans, like neanderthals and cro-magnon got to live on after death. When did we officially start getting souls?

Don't get me wrong, I want to live on forever. Death is terrifying. But sometimes I think that's the motivation behind posts like yours.



posted on Mar, 29 2023 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: Thrumbo

The map of the early universe actually looks like a brain and its receptors. Either way unless we are unique, we cannot be destroyed. The way this planet is, I'm not sure its a great place to be around anyway. I hope if we do live forever it is better than this.



posted on Mar, 29 2023 @ 10:41 PM
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Have you head the good news?

Jesus has risen? Would you like to hear more about it?

a reply to: LeeMich83



posted on Mar, 29 2023 @ 10:47 PM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Have you head the good news?

Jesus has risen? Would you like to hear more about it?

a reply to: LeeMich83



Ahh send him to my house I will make him a mug of tea. I was beginning to believe he was just a fictional character to control the believers as he didn't treat us all equally despite his scriptures saying we all were, he allowed the Romans to believe in him with evidence but the rest of us with blind faith. Now he is back he can treat me the same as he did the Romans, I am looking forward to his visit.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 02:12 AM
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Have you head the good news?


Head is always good news, right? Right?



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 02:16 AM
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originally posted by: LeeMich83

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Have you head the good news?

Jesus has risen? Would you like to hear more about it?

a reply to: LeeMich83



Ahh send him to my house I will make him a mug of tea. I was beginning to believe he was just a fictional character to control the believers as he didn't treat us all equally despite his scriptures saying we all were, he allowed the Romans to believe in him with evidence but the rest of us with blind faith. Now he is back he can treat me the same as he did the Romans, I am looking forward to his visit.


Was it not the Romans who Crucified him?

Please elaborate?



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 03:36 AM
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a reply to: LeeMich83


And im sorry those that follow organised religion, but they all prove themselves wrong in their own writings now we as a race have discovered science.


Science hasn't proven religion wrong. Science is finally starting to recognize that the Bible was right when it stated that we were created from the dust of the earth. Science has discovered that every living creature on earth shares the same living organisms found in soil life, yet they have no idea why that is. They don't know WHY the earth has the ability to sustain itself and the people living on it, they just know that it does. And they know that human life can't be sustained naturally outside of it.

I find it amusing that in another one of your threads you mentioned that you didn't believe in the Bible or religion because mankind was involved in the process of writing it, yet somehow, you believe that scientific theory, which is theorized by mankind is somehow the perfect answer? Science can't tell us why we are here, how we got here originally, or why we have the ability to think with reason and feel with emotion. Any scientific knowledge we do have was given to us or allowed to be given to us by God. We never would have been able to come up with it on our own. However, it was never God's intention for us to know everything while we are here on earth. He wants us to come to the realization that we are NOT God, but we need Him to continue to exist beyond this life. Only God can, and will, destroy the universe as we know it when He chooses.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 03:51 AM
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originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: LeeMich83

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Have you head the good news?

Jesus has risen? Would you like to hear more about it?

a reply to: LeeMich83



Ahh send him to my house I will make him a mug of tea. I was beginning to believe he was just a fictional character to control the believers as he didn't treat us all equally despite his scriptures saying we all were, he allowed the Romans to believe in him with evidence but the rest of us with blind faith. Now he is back he can treat me the same as he did the Romans, I am looking forward to his visit.


Was it not the Romans who Crucified him?

Please elaborate?



The Romans crucified Him but they weren't responsible for having Him crucified, they were His executioners only.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 04:13 AM
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We are all just made up of the same stuff. My best guess is we are all part of the same thing, so when we are cruel to each other we are only cruel to ourselves.



This why Christ taught us to forgive and to love our enemies, we're fragments of a whole.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 04:30 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

We are all just made up of the same stuff. My best guess is we are all part of the same thing, so when we are cruel to each other we are only cruel to ourselves.



This why Christ taught us to forgive and to love our enemies, we're fragments of a whole.


That makes sense.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 04:38 AM
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originally posted by: Cwantas

originally posted by: Wide-Eyes

originally posted by: LeeMich83

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Have you head the good news?

Jesus has risen? Would you like to hear more about it?

a reply to: LeeMich83



Ahh send him to my house I will make him a mug of tea. I was beginning to believe he was just a fictional character to control the believers as he didn't treat us all equally despite his scriptures saying we all were, he allowed the Romans to believe in him with evidence but the rest of us with blind faith. Now he is back he can treat me the same as he did the Romans, I am looking forward to his visit.


Was it not the Romans who Crucified him?

Please elaborate?



The Romans crucified Him but they weren't responsible for having Him crucified, they were His executioners only.


Who was responsible?

Judas?

He was just a snitch. He had no legal authority.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 04:44 AM
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Only the surface body/layer of molecules is discarded at "death". The rest of the being lives on in a much more refined state without it. Where it goes, depends. This earth and the dimension between molecules and stars just exists for that purpose of delusion.

Falun Dafa Hao!

Why Mankind Exists short 5 min read
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posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 04:48 AM
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a reply to: LeeMich83

I wrote this in 2019 on the subject that you are talking about, and these are my own beliefs on it.


The Body Electric


The Law of Conservation of energy states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed-only converted from one form of energy to another.
So,, what does that mean?
Well it could mean absolutely nothing to some people, oh but wait a minute, isn’t electricity itself a form of energy (lehigh.ed, 2019), and doesn’t our brains run on electricity (Layton, 2019)? Ok, now this is where things really start to get interesting because it seems that any time we have a thought, learn something new, or need to communicate to some other part of our body ─ to get those legs moving ─ because if we don’t, then some big bad monster is going to get us; then it is this very electricity in our brains that goes wild, shooting its electrical barbs all over the place in all kinds of directions. Yes, every single time we have a thought, electricity is behind it (nationalgeographic.com, 2019). So “WHO” or rather “WHAT” (at the very center of our beings) are we really? It seems to be that we are electricity, and just sort of borrowing this body for the short period of time that we call our lives.
So if we are electricity, what the heck are we doing here?
Even though electricity might be interesting or even fun for us to be, with its ability to shoot through the sky and go many places that would be completely off limits to humans-- electricity does have limitations, and so our electrical beings choose to have a human experience. We have a life’s purpose and that purpose was decided on before we were even born. The universe has a planned direction that it is moving in, and we are here to fulfill “OUR”, or rather “ITS”, destiny. Yes, humans are put on earth to learn, inspire, teach or placed on a path to create future generations, through our off spring, who will possess the power to change the world. We create ripples in the universe, and from those ripples, the fluid rivers of time can flow.

Is electricity trapped in the body from birth to death?
Oh heavens no, every time we are unconscious, our electricity has the ability to leave the body. This electricity has also been referred to as the “soul”, as well as your “life Force”. But I guess I am getting off track just a bit. So to go on with this idea of the mobile soul…every time that you sleep, and in your final departure from this world too, your electricity can, and does very easily leaves the body.
Your electricity is you, and you are your electricity. At times, it may seem as if you have a split personality, but make no mistake about it, “you are one” borrowing, for a brief moment in time, a human body.
Oh, and one more thought that I might sneak in here, what about those Ghost Busters™? Aren’t they always looking for spikes in electricity in their ghost buster thing-a- ma-jigs? See, ghosts or our passing soul is “electricity”, and even Hollywood seems to know it.

What About This Sleep Thing?
Yes, what about this sleep thing, just what is it that can happen if you do not get your night-time restful ritual? Well, as you probably know, some very bad things can happen. Just ask anyone who has ever fallen asleep behind the wheel of a car. Yes, our electrical brain will misbehave quite badly; bringing about hallucinations, and even an inability to perform the simplest of tasks. We can feel as if we are losing our minds.
Sleep can be more beneficial to you than you can even imagine; if you have a difficult problem, or are working on a troublesome term paper, try asking yourself for the answer to your dilemma just before you drift off to sleep. More than likely, you will get a solution upon waking in the morning. (Scientific American, 2002)



Crossing Over to the Other side (sort of)
The electricity in your body can cause quite a ruckus if not allowed the freedom to roam freely in these nightly excursions of theirs. So it does sometimes make it hard to think of this electricity, and “US” as being one, especially with this rule over our nights -- but we are; it is not however, as bad as we might think, because this allows us the ability to cross over to the other side and see loved ones, if that is what we want to do. So it is good, we may grieve during the day, but our nights are spent wherever and however, we choose to spend them. We never really let go of anyone that we do not want to.

What is the Silver Chord?
The silver chord is a very interesting concept. I like this idea of the silver chord, which is something that connects our soul to our earthly body. This is what allows us to safely roam anywhere that want at night, and still be able to return to our bodies upon waking (near-death.com, 2019) . The thing is that if this chord is ever severed, we can no longer return to our human form, and we leave this existence and go on to the afterlife. A world that I have heard is quite beautiful, with more brilliant colors than we have ever even imagined here on this plane. This could be in any dimension, because when we assume the form of electricity, we can go anywhere.
What about the dimensional Journey?
As electricity, we do indeed have the ability to traverse to different Universes, as well as, different dimensions. The quantum world of microscopic particles has an entirely different set of laws of physics than we possess here in our own universe (Clements, 2019). Molecules can travel great distances in a flash. This is unheard of on our own plane. Magic, Mythological animals, angels and demons can exist when the laws of physics is turned on its head. Gravity is completely different. Imagine a world where you could fly is just an everyday occurrence.

Can we Jump off whenever we choose?
If you are thinking of suicide, this is not even an option. As I have stated before, you are placed here for a purpose, and just jumping off is very much frowned upon by the universe. Even if things seem to be their darkest, you are here to learn. Learn from this low point, improve yourself and move on to finish out your life. It is important for you to be here, existence needs you, and you must finish out your mission here on Earth.



Works Cited


Camille Peri. (2019). 10 Things to Hate About Sleep Loss. Retrieved March 28, 2019, from WebMD.com: www.webmd.com...
Clements, T. (2019). How does quantum mechanics differ from classical mechanics? Retrieved March 29, 2019, from socratic.org: socratic.org...
Layton, J. (2019). How does the body make electricity -- and how does it use it? Retrieved March 27, 2019, from health.howstuffworks.com: health.howstuffworks.com...
lehigh.ed. (2019). Energy Kid's Page. Retrieved March 27, 2019, from lehigh.ed: www.ei.lehigh.edu...
nationalgeographic.com. (2019). Your Amazing Brain. Retrieved March 28, 2019, from kids.nationalgeographic.com: kids.nationalgeographic.com...
near-death.com. (2019). The Silver Cord and the Near-Death Experience . Retrieved March 19, 2019, from near-death.com: near-death.com
Scientific American. (2002, March 25). How Long Can Humans Stay Awake? Retrieved March 27, 2019, from Scientific American: www.scientificamerican.com...



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 05:01 AM
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OP, although you didn't develop your concepts in depth, you are correct. What you just did is called metaphysics. Reality is made of three things: matter, energy and essence (which is invisible, aka the soul). The three are governed by the same laws of the universe (physics), because the universe is simple as it is divine.

Everything is "recycled", nothing is lost. The western materialistic eyes don't see what's invisible, they refuse. But what I'm telling you is what ancient Indians, Egyptians and Greek agreed on. The spiritual masters of these three ancient cultures all believed in the same thing, and the native americans very close to it as well.


Regarding the people who are following organized religion, yes, they are just buying into someone else's narrative. But usually, that's enough for these people, they are not looking for truth, but simply a feeling of "belonging", sort of like being "part of a team". Most of them live through life without asking what life is. They are just doing what others do, and saying what others say.


Best,



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posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 05:59 AM
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Regarding the people who are following organized religion, yes, they are just buying into someone else's narrative.


LOL! Regardless of what you believe, you're following someone else's narrative. I could also just as easily claim that any narrative outside of religion doesn't mean that it's proof of someone looking for truth. It could very easily be someone looking for a narrative that fits what they WANT to believe. It's time for religion bashers to accept this universal truth.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Sure, whatever. Look, if you are so sure about your religion and have the keys to heaven, what do you worry about? I'm a heathen going to hell, so relax dude. Believe what you want to believe, I don't care.




posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 06:31 AM
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My whole point is that everyone will make a decision on what narrative they choose to believe and follow. There are plenty of outside sources and entities that are willing to influence those decisions and beliefs, regardless of what setting they are in. Just because some people share the same beliefs and worship God in a group setting doesn't make it an uneducated or inexperienced decision. People of all walks and faiths are capable of experiencing the spiritual world. For most people, our own experiences will influence our beliefs.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Deetermined

Look man, I simply wrote to the OP about his post. Then you jumped defending your religion or religious people. Fine by me, you and others can think or believe whatever you want, worship whatever god you want, I don't mind, all good.



posted on Mar, 30 2023 @ 06:50 AM
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Everybody wants the reward for the love they had in their life.



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