originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
originally posted by: xuenchen
GOP Rep. Kustoff: We
Need to Know Why Regulators ‘Failed to Catch’ SVB Collapse
....We need to also know where the regulators were, what they were concentrating on, and why they failed to catch this before the events of
the last several days.”
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CEO of Startup
Accelerator ‘Y Combinator:’ Silicon Valley Bank Failure Is an ‘Extinction-Level Event’
I read a report that 90% of SVP's customers had over $250,000 with the bank -- meaning most of them are going to lose money. Their customers were
probably mainly Silicon Valley startups, who are now going to be freaking out about how they're going to make the next payroll.
it may get very interesting the next couple weeks. right now from what i have seen, most people have only clued in to the fact that
people will
loose money, as some people are gleefully laughing at
"the rich loosing money". since of course most (but apparently not all), bank accounts
are covered, but only to a max of $250,000, so only the "rich" will be hurt. yet they are failing to see that, that $250,000 cap, also includes
companies and businesses. which of course means many, especially the poorer paid, WILL very likely be hurt by this. first off, by not getting paid. as
it is hard for a company to pay employees, when they don't have enough money to actually do so. think about it. if for example a company pays monthly
(and the 15th of the month is a popular date for monthly pay). and pays each employee $2,500 a month. all they need is 100 employees, and that entire
insured $250,000 is completely gone. forget about any other expenses, just minor things like rent, electricity, stock/materials, etc. remember the
poorer of us live paycheck to paycheck (many people are actually living on the next pay, being in serious debt especially credit cards and overdraft).
and so any pay disruption would have very serious consequences
and lets face it for pretty much all retail type businesses,
this is the "lean time" of the year (typically from Christmas, till pretty much
summer). where normally people cut down spending, after overspending on Christmas. so those types of businesses would have problems since they rely on
their savings in a bank from the better times, to see them through the lean times. and so their accounts would be more money in their accounts. not to
mention it is wise for businesses to keep at least a couple months expenses in the bank (although a lot of that was likely used during the pandemic,
so those savings could be low), "just in case". in fact many if not most franchisers with accounts at this bank are screwed. screwed because a lot of
franchise contracts require you to always have a certain amount of money in the bank at all times "for emergencies". for example Mcdonalds requires
their franchisees to always keep an account of $500,000, exactly double the insured amount. and my understanding is a lot of franchises have similar
savings required.
of course his means you will likely have a lot of smaller businesses and companies that have an account at this bank closing. that means loss of jobs.
a person not getting paid, or fully paid, will be completely FUBAR. causing things like loss of homes, no food, getting services cut off for non
payment, etc.
which if we remember our history, this is pretty much how the depression started. it wasn't the people loosing the money from stocks and banks that
was the problem. it was the fact that companies couldn't afford to pay bills, pay employees etc, so they closed. and a company closing down, as
bankrupt, means those they owe money to, such as other businesses and suppliers, can't be paid. which then puts those companies into bankruptcy,
loosing yet more jobs, and lack of pay which likely will never be recovered. that is exactly what happened to my great grandfather. he didn't do
things like buy stock on the margin or something like that. he was a supply business. and between him not being paid, because of people and businesses
going bankrupt, caused HIM to go bankrupt, and he was wiped out because of it. and that is the problem with a situation like this, it's like several
sets of dominoes spreading out like wildfire.
hopefully they will get at least most of their money back. but like a bankruptcy, they will have to figure out how much money they actually have, vs
how much money they owe ALL creditors and customers (
after the insurance money paid out is covered), and then divide the money equally between
all those owed money. and i suspect that is not going to happen within a couple days, possibly it will take weeks, if not months to sort out
(seriously, if there was any fraud going on, it takes forever to work it all out. like it took over 6 months to find out all paperwork to find all of
the over $100,000 the cash office person had stolen, and hidden within the paperwork in a couple months at the one walmart i worked at). there is even
a possibility that there will be no money at all over the insured amounts, meaning the up to $250,000. but then there is also the possibility that
once the dust settles, they will get all their money back, at some point down the road. it will actually be interesting to see, first how fast people
can get their insured money, and then how long for them to sort everything out, and give them what they can over the insured amount.