Ukraine is running low on ammo. Europe faces pressure to produce more

a reply to: iamthevirus

that doesnt really answer the question
it is highly unlikely that extremists who are ideologues would up and turn tail and switch their ideology from one extreme to the other

surely they would stay indoctrinated to their cause

so what happened to the fascist right wing groups that we are talking about
where did they go?
if they were there and arent there now ?

We tend to think of politics as a left/right spectrum, but in truth it's really more like a ring. Go far enough in either direction, and the end results look pretty much the same: an autocratic dictatorship.

originally posted by: iamthevirus

a reply to: putnam6

We have given them close to 50 Billion dollars and they are running low on ammo? What are they using, rounds made out of solid gold?

a reply to: openminded2011

If I remember correctly , most bullets are made from a lead core and a copper jacket
and Ukraine isnt even in the top ten countries with reserves of lead or copper ores

China is of course the leader in Lead but 9th in copper
Russia is 6th In lead and 4th in Copper

Ukrained isnt even in the top ten for either lead or copper
Luckily the USA is 3rd in lead and 6th in copper
Australia is 2nd in Lead and 2nd in copper
so it seems that allied nations could help there in terms of manufacturing or at least providing ores to make more munitions


I suppose this list is also significant

ammunitions manufacturers

most of the major ones seem to be European
so id assume the western allies could easily send more munitions to Ukraine
if governments contracted them to produce surplus for Ukraine



These were just for small arms , but Tungsten is the major issue as China controls the largest ore production of tungsten

a reply to: openminded2011

Many top Ukrainian officials have recently purchased villas in Western Europe. I bet those don't come cheap.

In all likelyhood, most of all that money is being embezzled.

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

most wars are just a way to thin the herd of working class fighting men
that would oppose corrupt governments whilst at the same time stealing working class tax payers wealth
into defense shares and the MIC

theft of wealth and health

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Many top Ukrainian officials have recently purchased villas in Western Europe. I bet those don't come cheap.

Love to see your evidence for this. Most support for Ukraine is coming in via equipment and humanitarian aid rather than cash.

a reply to: paraphi

speaking of humanitarian aid , as my uncle fled Ukraine a year ago yesterday to Poland then to Italy and made his way as a refugee to Turkey , he said that a lot of the food and aid being sent to countries to help with the growing number of refugees was being sold for profit and they were given rubbish instead , cheaper alternatives
He Experienced this in Poland and Italy
that staff at refugee centers were taking the items for themselves and selling them on and giving refugees cheaper foods

it may not have been every place across Europe that took refugees but from what experienced he said that the corruption was pretty bad in the places he ended up.|

Corruption everywhere