So where's the wreckage? Why are they being so vauge? Where's the footage?!

So as I'm sure a lot others are wondering the same things, I have to talk about this because it's been running through my head for a few days now. This is both exciting and scary all at the same time.

1 balloon and 3 UFO's. All seems quiet today though thankfully.
What is the deal with this? Why is our government being so vague about the craft identification and shape?

What's up with the pilots differing stories about what it looked like, and the instrument jamming?

This is incredibly strange all the way around.

Where is the wreckage? 3 days have gone by now since the Alaska UFO was shot down. Nada, nothing.
Where's the video footage? I've not seen civilian nor military footage of said objects, and you KNOW they were recording from many different angles.

If these were simple balloons (which they officially are saying they don't appear to be) then why all the secrecy.
The pentagon live briefing last night was a joke. It wasn't even live on tv over video, it was a very small attended briefing with reporters asking questions, and very vague information from the government. Also, they said they are not ruling out these being alien craft... WHAT!?

The time it took place was highly suspicious as well, during the Superbowl, when they knew much less attention would be drawn to this.

Very odd indeed. I was hoping for more interesting stuff to happen today, but so far it's been quiet in the sky's

As of right now after examining every video, audio, news report, & official statement over the last few days, I've come to the conclusion that:

1. There are no actual UFOs being shot down and it's all a big exercise to see how the world reacts (lack of wreckage and photo/video proof makes me think this)

2. It's China/Russia and they are balloons that are just disintegrating on impact.

3. They are extra-terrestrial in origin and we're either being tested or they are just doing UFO things. Lack of wreckage or evidence in the scenario has also made me think that maybe they are getting hit but not taking damage, and just disappearing like the tic-tacs are able to.

Anyone else have anything to add?
Please no blue-beam talk or any wild conspiracy theories, I'd like to keep this as analytical and accurate as possible.
I get that people think this is a distraction to cover up other things going on in the media but that's honestly said about everything that happens. Multiple bad things can be happening at the same time, they aren't all distractions.

If anyone has any decent video/photo evidence to share, please do!

Never let a good crisis go to waste-even if you have to manufacture said crisis to draw attention away from even greater, more important issues.

Your fear is the exact reaction they're anticipating; thanks for playing.

Second balloon was sent up by US Admin so they could shoot it down quickly and save face.

You are asking the right question.

The right question to power is always the one they "won't" answer.

It is the defining parameter of power. I submit to you that you are not the source of the 'fear,' they are.

'Fear' that they will not be able to "hide" whatever it is that they are doing (or can't do.) Thier fear obviously extends to the fact that if the public "knew" they would be diminished somehow.

Since we have experienced the "UFO" information they attempted to create with their almost embarrassingly childish recent public relations efforts (Navy 'tic-tacs' and dots on a screen show) ... we already know they are in the midst of a program or project which (in my opinion) is almost certainly to "get more funding" for the defense leeches...

I wonder if decades from now, we will see a "sensational investigative reporting product" from media about "what happened" (ala Roswell mystery.) If so, will it be another big "nothing burger." Hopefully by then, the art of journalism will have recovered from its current decayed state. I suppose we'll see.

These 'objects' are not being identified for a reason, and it's not because "they can't figure it out." It's obviously because someone has decided to withhold the information. And no one will say to the decider, "screw that noise."

Two of them came down in extremely remote, extremely treacherous areas. Getting to them won’t be easy, and could take as long as two weeks. The order came down in a lake with an average depth of almost two hundred feet, and a maximum of almost eight hundred feet. It’s going to take a minute to get that one too.

The military isn’t going to release any footage unless they’re certain you can’t get much information from it. That takes time to scrub. So it’s going to be a minute before anything is shown.

a reply to: porschedrifter

Spread across the sea ice would be my guess.

Also, apparently recovery effort is being hampered by windchill, snow and limited daylight.

a reply to: porschedrifter

1. Lack of evidence does not mean lack of existence. "Evidence" may not yet have been collected, may have been collected but not yet analyzed sufficiently to determine answers to the inevitable "fallow on" questions (who? what? how?), evidence may have been collected and analyzed, but poses so significant a threat that to release definitive information to the public would risk panic, or international conflict, or both.

2. "Balloons" do not disintegrate on impact. A punctured balloon will deflate, even when pierced by bullets (or an unarmed missile), a balloon of the size we are dealing with, will simply collapse and fall. At their maximum altitude (or if specificallyso designed), a balloon will shred into thin "streamers" and small pieces due to internal pressure causing the envelope to fail and rupture.

Rigid Structures" can be said to "disintegrate on impact", a balloon, of any type, is not rigid.


3. Or disintegrating, having completed their mission. Wouldn't want to leave behind anything that a somewhat technologically developed species with a demonstrated tendency toward hostility, and even, violence, could "reverse engineer" .

You want vague government evasiveness analysed accurately, however you don’t want to discuss a theoretical government program that’s been bandied around for some 29 odd years, that is about orchestrating a new world order.

After all the dumbing down that has happened in the last twenty-nine Years, culminating in a(nother?, looking at you Roswell) balloon fiasco in the week leading up to Super Bowl, I guess all we have left to play with is the GoodYear blimp.

If the isn’t a misnomer for the last 365 days I don’t know what is!

a reply to: porschedrifter

Most definitely #1. They are testing the waters and checking what followup scenarios they will deploy. It all depends on what kind of public reaction they get. I'm more concerned about the kind of emergency plot they are willing to roll out with this. They have control over the veracity of what they will show from the wreckage. So we can't really depend on anything they say on the podium. What most people should be zoned in on is NORAD. They are sus.

My question is. If they are alien. Why are they letting their probes to be shot down without firing at our planes? It seems they would have a method of protecting these objects.

a reply to: porschedrifter

The use of the term " object " makes me suspicious.

A less suspicious term to use would be " intruder "

Well they're not shooting down aliens from outer space and reporting it to the public media I guarantee you that lol. So you can probably use another forum for the current situation if you so desire 👍

a reply to: Mantiss2021

An airship is at least somewhat rigid, hence semi rigid airship, and acts similar to a balloon. It would also shatter on impact.

Was just thinking...is it possible thst some of these balloons belong to smugglers, be it drugs or something worse? It's cheap, low tech/low cost and completely avoids customs and boarder crossing searches. Once across the border, the payload is dropped in a predetermined, remote location.

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

Damn, Thinking Well Outside the Box.

I'm going to give you the "Distinguished Internet Award".

Nobody has ask this, and I gotta give a Star. I was thinking helium data mining to be taken literally.

originally posted by: WeDemBoyz
Was just thinking...is it possible thst some of these balloons belong to smugglers, be it drugs or something worse? It's cheap, low tech/low cost and completely avoids customs and boarder crossing searches. Once across the border, the payload is dropped in a predetermined, remote location.

Yep, this is a good point, smugglers definitely use airdrops but from 20,000 feet it's gonna need chutes and a GPS tracker not to mention while it could drift in the winds would be better to have maneuverability and at least a rudimentary propulsion system.

a reply to: putnam6

True. I was thinking these things are launched and drop their payloads within minutes (or miles), just enough to get across the boarder. Once the payload is dropped, the balloon isn't "weighted" down and it ascends to the clouds and beyond where it floats aimlessly. They would have GPS trackers, but those would go unnoticed on an uncheduled short, low altitude flight.

a reply to: WeDemBoyz

It occurs to me that if that was the case (smuggling) and they are using tracking devices of any kind, we would be able to detect them. That's not "new" tech ... Of course, most aircraft aren't usually equipped with gear to scan for stray EM emissions, let alone track the sources to the ground.

Smuggling usually doesn't occur outside of a generally fix route... balloons are not really useful for that without piloting begin involved... but I am not an aviation expert, by any means, so maybe that could be 'automated' or 'remotely operated' somehow?

But that was "officer" thinking, since we hadn't discussed this one very possible consideration in ATS' analysis of these events. Noice.

a reply to: porschedrifter

They have shown the Chinese balloon. www.cnn.com...

The other non-balloon objects they have not. I want to see the Air Force fighter camera footage of those objects.

a reply to: porschedrifter

Nothing wrong with discussing operation bluebeam on a conspiracy site given the circumstance.. This is factually a psyops operation. They have chosen to release this information now having known the existence of such craft for decades.